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Adobe Introduces Creative Suite 5.5, Subscription Editions
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That isn't the issue mate, the issue is that Lion is around the corner and I'll bet my bottom dollar Adobe will damn well use their launch of 5.5 to justify dropping support for CS5 when it comes to Lion. So what does one do - hold back on Lion so one can keep with CS5 or upgrade to CS5.5 just to get Lion support? don't think it isn't going to happen - look at CS4 and the fact it took MONTHS for Adobe to finally fix the data corruption bug in Fireworks where it would crash on exit when running on Snow Leopard.
Sorry, I want to move to Lion as soon as it is released because there are some friggin awesome features that I really like but there are scum sucking ******s like Adobe who will use it as yet ANOTHER reason to milk their customers.
Adobe keep whining about Apple and how they keep getting 'screwed over' and yet when are we going to see Adobe stop screwing over its customers, both Windows and Mac OS X, using the ever so slightest system change to justify charging an upgrade when what they should be doing is issuing updates and supporting their products for up to 5 years like Microsoft does (Adobe is a big enough company to carry that cost).
Interesting point, although what you're not factoring in is that the resale value of CS5 is substantial whereas the resale value of the subscription model is ZERO
actually no, its 35$ per month if u subscribe to a 1 year commitment and 49$ per month if u extens it each month ... what a ripoff
LOL.
I'm embarrassed for not reading their terms before I posted, because right after I submitted, I checked them out. It's cheaper to buy. I only see this being good, if one needs to higher more temps than they have available licenses for a short period of time. But as is, I upgrade my various Adobe products on average every 2 or 3 years -- I used AfterEffects 6.5 up until CS4 -- so the subscription pricing is a joke.
Interesting point, although what you're not factoring in is that the resale value of CS5 is substantial whereas the resale value of the subscription model is ZERO
Nor the fact that the only part of that £8000 up-front cost you save is the £1700 cost of the Adobe software. 21% saving is better than nothing, but you would do better to get your business modelling and recruitment right...
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CS6 comes after Lion, which we can expect in February/March/April 2012. Lion and CS6 will be optimized for Ivy Bridge. Lion public beta is also possible after WWDC 2011.
Durh
Wouldn't be surprised if the high costs are due to the pirates ripping them off.
Apple should've bought Adobe a long time ago.
Wouldn't be surprised if the high costs are due to the pirates ripping them off.
Apple should've bought Adobe a long time ago.
Don't worry about it. The guys who can't afford to pay for it and pirate it are usually the folks who just want to "hoard" it rather than use it. If they had any talent to begin with, they'd be making enough money with the tool where the cost of it would be meaningless anyway.
If they had any talent to begin with, they'd be making enough money with the tool where the cost of it would be meaningless anyway.
Your logic is flawed, kid. You need the right tools, BEFORE you can make money with them.
Yeah, the pirates! *lol*
Geez! Please spare me such uninformed comments, and read this:
http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/201012/Q410Earnings.html
Geez! Please spare me such uninformed comments, and read this:
http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/201012/Q410Earnings.html
Learn the trade, not the tool and you won't have that problem, "kid". I didn't need a 1k$ compiler/profiling suite to learn programming and I certainly didn't need a 500k$ PA-RISC box with 20k$ worth of HP-UX licenses to learn Unix systems administration.
Yet these days I do both at a level that could earn me enough to buy that stuff (and I actually do the Unix stuff everyday professionally which does pay enough to buy that stuff, though I sometimes regret not going into the programming side).
Why you would need every last version of the entire CS suite to get into graphics and design quite eludes the mind.
Geez! Please spare me such uninformed comments, and read this:
http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/201012/Q410Earnings.html
Doesn't matter how much they made. If you think Adobe doesn't adjust their prices to offset douchebag thieves, you're naive and/or ignorant.
If you want to use pro tools, you pay for them like an adult. Or you're just a thieving child.
I just upgraded to CS5 a few months ago for $600. The 5.5 upgrade would cost another $400. Adobe is easily my least favorite company in the world.
The question to ask is do you have a need for the new features ? If not, then you aren't forced to update and probably shouldn't. In the real world, most profesionals only upgrade when a product is EOL'd or if they need a particular new feature. Upgrading every release makes little sense.
Agreed. And I think this model has it's pros and cons. More cons though. I personally wouldn't mind "renting" Premier Pro and After Effects when a clients asks for a project done with those tools. Or if I were collaborating and didn't want to have to work with EDLs and XML files for cross platform work.
But renting the entire CS would be crazy for anyone that gets consistent work and has their own rig to work on.
The only times I've upgraded my Adobe software has been when I desperately needed to. I stole up to CS1, bought CS2, needed CS3 to escape Rosetta and was given a copy of Design Premium CS4 from my job. I am looking to upgrade to the Master Collection but I may just wait for CS6, the just spend my time with it for 4 years.
Don't worry about it. The guys who can't afford to pay for it and pirate it are usually the folks who just want to "hoard" it rather than use it. If they had any talent to begin with, they'd be making enough money with the tool where the cost of it would be meaningless anyway.
KnightWRX is correct . . . . 100% in fact.
You are wrong . . . 110% wrong in fact. You are so wrong in fact that it hurts. Tools can't teach you how to design. Any goof-ball can learn Photoshop and Illustrator, but it takes a designer to design.
I tell this to my students now that constantly whine about learning apps, but never getting the concepts down, never thinking abstractly, etc.
And as for pirating (which I was into HEAVY), it's actually far better to just buy the EDU version to learn. It's yours, it comes with less bugs, and I am sure you'll eventually want to get paid for your work yourself, so why not pay the company that's helping you get paid?
Please don't tell me that anyone that actually needs the CS apps can't plunk down $450-$1000 for the EDU version, but will shell out $3000 for an overpriced Mac Pro?
Adobe is not making any new fans with this scheme. I went from MX Studio 2004 to CS4 to CS5, and they cant even give me a free minor update? Either it it has enough new features to release it as a major update, or it doesn't.
I've given them a lot of money over the years, and they can't even give me a free minor update?
I've given them a lot of money over the years, and they can't even give me a free minor update?
and who can afford that?
It's bad enough that the suite will be updated every year (.5 edition) and now the subscription too?
Am I understanding correctly: no updates for the mid-term suite for those that plunge for the more expensive bi-annual package? Boo.
I feel bad for all the designers/photographers/filmmakers (part of companys and esp. freelance/new graduates). How the hell will folks be able to afford upgrading every year and/or two years. This doesn't include the time and possible addition outlay to work around the learning curves for all new bells, whistles, bs etc.
I guess I stopped using Adobe's product at the right time. This just makes my wallet and brain cringe massively.
It's bad enough that the suite will be updated every year (.5 edition) and now the subscription too?
Am I understanding correctly: no updates for the mid-term suite for those that plunge for the more expensive bi-annual package? Boo.
I feel bad for all the designers/photographers/filmmakers (part of companys and esp. freelance/new graduates). How the hell will folks be able to afford upgrading every year and/or two years. This doesn't include the time and possible addition outlay to work around the learning curves for all new bells, whistles, bs etc.
I guess I stopped using Adobe's product at the right time. This just makes my wallet and brain cringe massively.
