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Adobe Photoshop CS4 Interface and Screenshots

I just hit the 'F' key if I ever want to block out background elements...however this is almost never necessary as I have a neutral desktop wallpaper, and a dedicated Space for PS. I much prefer the floating window nature of CS3.

While I am glad MDI mode is optional, the rest of the interface looks like a big step backwards from CS3.
 
If you're lucky, it will work just like Windows

Dreamail said:
And it works just like Windows! If I want that, I could just run Windows on my Mac and get the Windows version of Photoshop!
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Windows MDI supports dockable panes - you can arrange them in the main window, or drag them into separate windows on the desktop.

I do this all the time to move task and palettes onto other monitors, away from the main full screen window.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_document_interface
 
Damn, they're already releasing CS4. I'm still using CS! I can't afford anything else.
 
robbyx said:
Ugly. Confused. Cluttered.

I see where they are trying to go, but what the heck is this mess???

I'd like to see tool icons and palettes auto-hide like the Dock. All of my tools on the left side of my screen, all the palettes on the right. I move my mouse to one side of the screen - or the other - and my tools or palettes appear. I make my selection. And then go back to my nice big 24" screen with nothing else on it.

Off the top of my head...
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Heh... you can already do that... :p - Just press tab to hide all the tools/pallets and when you move your mouse to the sides of the screen they'll appear :)
 
avkills said:
Yeah FCP is pretty damn good. Motion is ok; but I've been a After Effects user for so long that Motion just rubs the way I like to work the wrong way.

Aperture is nice also. Now Lightwave 3D is great; all the buttons just tell you what they do; although that app is so different than all the others that to me it just makes sense for it to be that way. I guess that is why I hate Maya and Cinema 4D... you have to guess WTF those icons mean and do; and 3D apps have LOTS of options...millions in fact.

-mark
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I still see the Amiga heritage in LW every time I use it.
 
dornoforpyros said:
*yawn*

I'd say Adobe has a lot bigger problems to whine about than this interface change, how about photoshop corrupting files when saving to a network in 10.5.3? Or flash files crashing as soon as you click in the "actions" box?
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Slightly OT, but is anyone besides me having problems with Safari crashing when opening a PDF file from the web?
 
jpine said:
Slightly OT, but is anyone besides me having problems with Safari crashing when opening a PDF file from the web?
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lol, no. But I'm having problems with Safari crashing my MBP by freezing it entirely.


Anyway, can I ask the people in this thread, as to what we _really_ know about CS4? I mean, apparently we won't get 64bit (which is irrelevant to me, I suppose, running a core2duo?). Other than that, how much do we really know?

Do we know a proper release date (can't wait to move over to Soundbooth CS4 "for real").
 
Tosser said:
lol, no. But I'm having problems with Safari crashing my MBP by freezing it entirely.


Anyway, can I ask the people in this thread, as to what we _really_ know about CS4? I mean, apparently we won't get 64bit (which is irrelevant to me, I suppose, running a core2duo?). Other than that, how much do we really know?

Do we know a proper release date (can't wait to move over to Soundbooth CS4 "for real").
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We know... nothing...

And btw, you should care about it being 64bit since all Core 2's are 64bit :)

Now w/ that said... this whole 64bit thing... the average consumer/user w/e won't even know the difference... Now if you're working w/ HUGE files, then yes, a jump in performance is quite drastic... (given that you have plenty of ram) :)
 
The Adobe people monitoring this won't like it but...

There are a lot of users who would use gimp in a heart beat if it was a native cocoa app with a nicer interface.
 
InkMaster said:
We know... nothing...

And btw, you should care about it being 64bit since all Core 2's are 64bit :)
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Oh, ha ha, I'l go with the choir then: Booh, Adobe! Lol, not really. It's just audio. I can wait for 64 bits in the next revision. Or perhaps run it through windows or something like that. Actually, that's one of the reasons I'm rooting for Soundbooth: I can get the same programme (well, the UI) for both platforms.


Now w/ that said... this whole 64bit thing... the average consumer/user w/e won't even know the difference... Now if you're working w/ HUGE files, then yes, a jump in performance is quite drastic... (given that you have plenty of ram) :)
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I doubt I'll be working with "huge" files. At least on a regular basis. 24bit/48kHz/12 minutes(average?) X, say, 10-20 tracks at most. And that would be a rare occurance.

I know there aren't any clear-cut answer, but as a rule of thumb, how much ram would one need to make use of before 64bit is beneficial? 4GB? 8GB? 16?
 
Speaking as a user that has been pestering bosses for copies of Painter for our art department (and failing dismally) I absolutely cannot wait for the rotate canvas function, which was pretty much the main reason I wanted Painter anyway.

Got to love the comments assuming Macs having the greatest market share of Photoshop installs. Just because it is in your department doesn't make it global, you know. :p

I personally wish it was true, because I keep emailing my boss and IT guy to get me a Mac. Still having to put up with Winblows XP.
 
QuantumLo0p said:
The Adobe people monitoring this won't like it but...

There are a lot of users who would use gimp in a heart beat if it was a native cocoa app with a nicer interface.
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I'm one of them. I have Ps. I would gladly get rid of it for GIMP. GIMP has a way more logical interface- in Ps everything is buried under so many freaking menus, and in GIMP it's all on one sidebar where everything is easy to reach. Not to mention the 'Alpha To Selection' tool is so freaking handy and I've yet to find out how to do that in Ps.

I love GIMP. <3

skellener said:
Pixelmator
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Firstly, Pixelmator isn't free. Secondly, it doesn't do HALF what GIMP does. GIMP is like a Photoshop replacement, there's not much Ps can do that GIMP can't and vice versa.
 
GradientMac said:
Firstly, Pixelmator isn't free. Secondly, it doesn't do HALF what GIMP does. GIMP is like a Photoshop replacement, there's not much Ps can do that GIMP can't and vice versa.
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I'm with you that Pixelmator is nowhere near as functional as GIMP, but GIMP isn't a valid PS replacement for a lot of users either; - its tablet support is lacking, its natural media tools nonexistant.. Its animation support lacking, etc..

It depends what you do in an app as to whether its worthwhile. PM might be enough for some people, GIMP for others, but I dont think anything compares to PS for flexibility & features.

I do love GIMP as well and get slightly frustrated by people saying Pixelmator is going to "take over", but I don't think GIMP is anywhere close either.. Saying that it's a lot closer than Pixelmator is, haha.
 
David G. said:
Yep, Apple would NEVER make an application of theirs come with grey "traffic light" buttons.:rolleyes:

Now in reality the first pic is Aperture, the second is Aperture with the mouse pointer over the -+ buttons. And there are more examples of Apple doing this too, as previously stated by others here. Isn't it exciting!:D
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Like I said, the grey traffic buttons are not the problem, it's the way they look. Grey is great. It looks mature, and as a graphic designer, I appreciate it.

However, he was saying that those disgusting gradients were part of Snow Leopard. Not a chance.

skellener Said:

"Pixelmator"
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I tried to use pixelmator quite a few times, and it's just not ready. Not only does it lack tons of features, but it's agonizingly slow. The interface is spectacular, though, and I think 2.0 will be much-improved.
 
Adobe jumped the shark a while back unfortunately.

Too bad they control Flash now as well as Photoshop..
 
Awful Interface

Why does the inteface look like a nasty Windows Xp thrid party app. Not impressed. All that work and no reflection of the grace of OSX GUI. Not nice at all I say old chap not nice at all.
 
plumpan said:
I just hit the 'F' key if I ever want to block out background elements...however this is almost never necessary as I have a neutral desktop wallpaper, and a dedicated Space for PS. I much prefer the floating window nature of CS3.

While I am glad MDI mode is optional, the rest of the interface looks like a big step backwards from CS3.
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You can change background in spaces? Say one of my spaces is Adobe only programs, i can change that background to neutral?
 
It's crap and it looks like a lazy programer just copied elements from.... Photoshop Elements to make it.

I hope Adobe isn't getting lazy, and if this is the new UI then sweet, I can keep my copy of CS3 and wait for a 64bit version of CS5 that's core aware and/or runs on GPU.
 
I hope you can go back to the one line menu on the left. I don't like the two column look or feel anymore. Having been using CS3 since almost day one, I like it alot. The screen shot also looks a lot like CS3 in that you can have the menus on the left open an close via the arrows at the top.

I know I won't be upgrading to CS4. Waiting for the 64 bit version of CS5.
 
maxrobertson said:
Like I said, the grey traffic buttons are not the problem, it's the way they look. Grey is great. It looks mature, and as a graphic designer, I appreciate it.
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I agree. I run Tiger and I have the appearances set to gray instead of blue, which makes every application's top right buttons gray instead of red, yellow, green. I'm more interested in the content of the window/application than its edges.
 
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