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Adobe Photoshop CS4 Interface and Screenshots

virduk said:
My impression was that more copies were sold on Windows.
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Finally someone with a brain in their head. Windows makes Adobe far more money than OS X ever could - it's simple math. They aren't putting the necessary resources into a 64-bit cs4 on the Mac side because 1) it wouldn't be a worthwhile ROI, and 2) they don't have to anymore - this isnt' the 90s. 64-bit support won't make a difference for most PS users anyway. And yes, Adobe can more than afford to piss off the few of you that "really need it."
 
InkMaster said:
wow, this is as horrible as Leopards GUI... BRING BACK AQUA! Why are we going to back to the 90s w/ all these ass ugly flat grey... w/e the hell these all are
:mad::(:mad::(:mad::(:mad::(:mad:
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yes! someone shares the same view as me! Mac OS X is turning into a boring black and white blob. I really like aqua. truthfully, at first i like the new look and feel of Leopard but now it's getting reeaallyy boring with gray everywhere!
 
pesos said:
Finally someone with a brain in their head. Windows makes Adobe far more money than OS X ever could - it's simple math. They aren't putting the necessary resources into a 64-bit cs4 on the Mac side because 1) it wouldn't be a worthwhile ROI, and 2) they don't have to anymore - this isnt' the 90s. 64-bit support won't make a difference for most PS users anyway. And yes, Adobe can more than afford to piss off the few of you that "really need it."
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I'll post this now and then see if I can go find the link, but...

A couple years ago I saw a page on Adobe.com that showed the percentages of their income according to platform - and it's split about 50/50. Your "simple math" ignores the fact that the creative community is largely Mac-centric. Go into an advertising agency sometime, for example - you'll see Macs everywhere, and very few Windows PCs. Every ad agency I've been in (my brother is a copywriter) has been this way.

Now Adobe (or their chairman, anyway) has, in the past, tried to push people over to the Windows platform - but they haven't had a lot of luck in doing so.

Edit: I bet with the stand-alone Acrobat your supposition is correct, though.

Edit 2: Not exactly what I was looking for, but here's a quote from an Adobe talking head about Mac sales (note the comment specifically about "the creative professional" space) - even in overall sales Adobe was getting 23% of it's income from the Mac side in 2006. Given recent shifts in market share, it should be higher than that in 2008.
 
dAlen said:
I dont get it.
If you press one of the buttons your screen is all grey and you cant see the background OS.
If you press another, the screen goes all black and blackness surrounds what your working on...for the entire monitor.

Photoshop has done this since at least 2000 minimum.
I have used those features quite a bit.

So again, not sure how this is something new...true the pallets were not tiled when you resized the window before...which is cool and makes sense.

Anyway

Peace

dAlen
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Agree. I just press F and my desktop clutter disappears. Not sure what the big deal is???
 
Every time adobe revs there's a learning curve, this one will be no different. I look at the screenshot and can see where changes in my workflow will need to happen, but nothing drastic. It doesn't seem all that bad to me.

I do dislike some of the Windows-centric interfaces I'm now finding in CS3 (choosing a destination for a freshly saved file comes to mind, horrid), if I had my way I'd rather not see them in my apps. But I'm used to working on the underdog platform, some sacrifices have to be made now and then.

I also feel like I haven't gotten my money out of CS3 yet, now they're revving it already??? I'm an independent, I pay for my own upgrades, I'm not paying for another one so darn soon! I get the feeling I'm skipping CS4, at least I'll be a late, late adopter. Unless CS4 has another ground breaking, time saving tool like Quick Selection Tool it won't be worth my hard earned cash.

And my opinion about Macromedia UI, it SUCKS! Flash has the worst interface I've ever had to work with. It feels like every menu is a hack. But I work mainly with Adobe products (more than a decade now), maybe that's why.
 
Tabs: Good.

Everything else: yuck.

CAN ADOBE JUST MAKE A NATIVE LOOKING INTERFACE FOR ONCE??!?!
They only have to shove everything in an MDI window cause they have like 15 trillion palettes. I have to say it, but they could use a hint of ribbon..... ahhh!!! :D
 
bdkennedy1 said:
I don't think the grey window controls are something Adobe fully changed themselves. Apple has been moving in this direction of removing the Red, Yellow and Green color and this is possibly a Snow Leopard change.!
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I don't think it's just Snow Leopard. The monochrome buttons are in all of Apple's profesional applications. Aperture and so on. I think Adobe is just following Apple on this.

As for placing all the little tools in one big window, I think it is a cleaner less cluttered look but then it was you can choose to have it the old way if you like or some sort of half way between. So I can't see how anyone could complain
 
This really, really worries me, because Photoshop is such a bread and butter app for me.

I'll have to use it before I pass judgement, though, but it looks ugly as hell, and that's one of the first cardinal sins of UI. Never make it uglier.
 
GradientMac said:
They need to bring back Aqua but leopardize it. No more pinstriping or anything, but just keep the aqua buttons. The stupid OS has no colour anymore, it's so boring...
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I god I hope they don't "colour" it. Why do you want to look at the kitschy GUI of a OS?!?!? If you're inproduction (graphic design for instance) you wanty something neutral like the grey walls of a museum.
I hope the ones that don't respond to such demands are the silent majority.
 
skviki said:
I god I hope they don't "colour" it. Why do you want to look at the kitschy GUI of a OS?!?!? If you're inproduction (graphic design for instance) you wanty something neutral like the grey walls of a museum.
I hope the ones that don't respond to such demands are the silent majority.
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I agree. I can't imagine what a rainbow UI would look like... I would make a quick mock-up but there is no image editing program on the computer I'm using.
 
Dale_Nx26 said:
yes! someone shares the same view as me! Mac OS X is turning into a boring black and white blob. I really like aqua. truthfully, at first i like the new look and feel of Leopard but now it's getting reeaallyy boring with gray everywhere!
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NEXTSTEP, anyone?
 
Ugly. Confused. Cluttered.

I see where they are trying to go, but what the heck is this mess???

I'd like to see tool icons and palettes auto-hide like the Dock. All of my tools on the left side of my screen, all the palettes on the right. I move my mouse to one side of the screen - or the other - and my tools or palettes appear. I make my selection. And then go back to my nice big 24" screen with nothing else on it.

Off the top of my head...
 
Kid Red said:
That's the main reason I stayed with CS2! I do not like windows and this forces us into a one app window interface WHICH I HATE! I need to be able to my desktop, my email, and browser while I'm working. PC CS3 is worse so I don't use that at work either, still on CS2. If CS4 still forces that type of blockage, I'll stay with CS2 at home on my mac and at work on a PC.

Simply retarded to force that on users. They are forcing a PC fullscreen type app and I will not fall for it or pay for it. CS2 is very usable and hopefully will last for a bit.
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Did you even read the main article?

For Mac users resistant to the change, Nack assures readers that the new interface is optional, and users can easily disable the consolidated view, or you can use choose to use elements of both methods.
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Unless I am interpreting optional wrong, I don't see how Adobe is forcing the new full-screen mode on Mac users.
 
Windows inside windows - just like Windows (so why use a Mac?)

Man, that's such a step backwards. While I understand that people don't want to be distracted when using Photoshop i.e. want to have a clean background (uhm, why instead not set your desktop to a neutral color and clean the mess on it?), I don't really like the window-inside-window scheme.

It's annoying as hell to say the least. And it works just like Windows! If I want that, I could just run Windows on my Mac and get the Windows version of Photoshop!
Have you ever worked with FileMaker on Windows? It works like that and it is such a nuisance: you shift a database window to the left, to access a window behind it, but while there is enough room on your desktop to still see that moved window's whole content, you can't because the app's main window is smaller than your desktop and cuts off half the window you moved aside.
So in order to see both windows you have to go back and resize or move the main window, and then again the window you just moved. Annoying!

I truly hope just this 'feature' is optional and not just via a complete master switch between either old or new interface. I can see some of the new interface features to be nice, but windows inside windows is just a really bad idea...
 
Am I the only one that hates the fact that not every application in OSX can be made to go Full Screen?

The clutter of palettes against a clickable background is nothing short of infuriating. i have no intention of moving away from OSX, but come on, this is reminiscent of the whole 2 button mouse determination. Give up Apple.
 
Spagolli94 said:
Wow, looks just like OS 8.5. Way to go Adobe. I guess they are feeling nostalgic for the 90's? All that dark, flat gray is dreary/depressing.
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Us humans see color as relative. You can make an image seem warmer if you place in on an blue tinted wall. We can make it look brighter be putting black next to it. Adobe and Apple are both heading to using 18% grey as a background and removing needless color. I think it's a good idea for the pro apps. Consumers will like flashy "eye candy" but people with a job to do a judged by the product. If that's what matters then neutral grey is the way to go.
 
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