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Adobe Photoshop CS4 Interface and Screenshots

As a proponent of unified GUI design, I do not like this. I've always hated those Windows applications that had their own GUI design, often with ugly background images and flashy buttons that don't match with the style of all the other Windows apps.

It's very sad to see this happening on the Mac more and more...

--Erwin
 
Photek said:
if PS CS4 is not 64 bit... my design studio and all 24 seats is gonna hold on for CS5..

F*** Adobe.. they need to get their house in order. :mad:
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You poor muffins. A studio full of designers sitting around at their Macs, a sepia-toned portrait of the unfortunate, forlornly looking at their Photoshop, wondering when, WHEN will Adobe throw them a crumb and let them process 4GB images rapidly, instead of less rapidly. Don't they know people's livelihoods are at stake? Design studios can only handle <4GB images in active memory for so long, and the time is running out. It is only by God's good graces that they are barely surviving... that word, "surviving", it rings so empty... as if you could call it a life... barely surviving today with 32 bit software. Damn you, Sally Struthers, where are you when we need you?
 
ChrisA said:
Us humans see color as relative. You can make an image seem warmer if you place in on an blue tinted wall. We can make it look brighter be putting black next to it. Adobe and Apple are both heading to using 18% grey as a background and removing needless color. I think it's a good idea for the pro apps. Consumers will like flashy "eye candy" but people with a job to do a judged by the product. If that's what matters then neutral grey is the way to go.
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indeed! ;)
 
sigh -- one of the thing that always frustrated me about using adobe products on Windows Vs Mac OS was the fact that the windows version has everything contained in the application window

for that matter -- the reason i love ALL of my Mac OS software is the the components that make up the application interface are disconnected -- Even Office applications are more pleasant to use on OS X, among other tings, for this reason.

i'm really disappointed
 
This is a GREAT thing. Thanks for the option Adobe. I enjoyed the UI attitions to the ealier CS versions and I'll probably get something from learning this setup too.

It won't be my default but I'll set it as a preset for when I'm editing/adjusting large numbers of images simultaniously.

Not sure how options could be a bad thing.. Also - in the screenshot, is that displaying non-destructive canvas rotation? like Painter has? so you can spin it and paint on it from a different angle?! I'd love that! that's one of the only things Artrage and Painter have that PS doesnt.

- Saying that, it's probably just someone half way through rotating the fish pic. :(
 
Cs4!?!?!?!

These guys at Adobe cant take their thumbs out of their a$$es to fix the bugs in CS3. I guess creating a new interface that means nothing to any old school user is much more important. Thanks Adobe. We love you. Please put in the extra effort to keep CS4 full of bugs that you wont fix.

Thank you. Bye Bye.
 
byebye usefullnes EXPOSE

well, one of the major things i liked about having every document in it's own frame, is that u can use expose and drag and drop from one doc to another, in all maximized windows, this is gonna ***** my workflow for sure.

Don't understand why they desperatly want to get rid of the way osx/ mac handles frames an windows, as seperate entities,

the yare crippling the most important workflow addition is osx IMO

...sigh
 
i hate this interface. very much.
The difference between using Adobe CS on Windows / Mac is, for Mac version, I could just click through those hollows and immediate access to icons that I have placed on desktop, and also easily to click through document windows for different apps that I use simultaneously.
Anyway I must turn off this function if i upgrade.
 
pdpardue said:
if you're clicking on the background then you're probably going to end up clicking on other images in the 'application frame' anyway, there is no difference. I think the windows version is the MAIN reason I left windows for mac. It's ugly, JUST like this
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Not if they're tabbed.
 
bretm said:
No, they know its not yelling. They know its a pallette tab without room for desceders. Get a life. Its an app, not an email.
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Of course there's room for descenders. There's always room for descenders.

I have PhotoShop CS3 open right now with tabbed panels (remember they changed the name of our palettes, too!). Not an all cap'ed header to be seen! All caps are awful for quick recognition of words. If you want to quickly find a little panel in a sea of panels you don't need to be forced to read the text--you want to recognize the word by the shape.
 
What a waste of space with 2 toolbars on top. Friggen toobars everywhere, (on top, on left, on right) for the newbies and windows users who cannot figure out how to use keyboard short cuts. ugh!

It's absolutely awful because it's starting to look like any other FUGLY windows program. Yes I know it's "Optional" but I doubt Adobe will bother maintaining the more useable interface.

Tabs might be of use, but would it work with Expose? I doubt it.
 
I think Adobe don't want to be Apple-like no more... It's another direction, something tells me that Adobe wont be the prefer suite for graphic production in 5 years from now. Unless they invent a format exclusive for their suite that everyone will need to use their software becasue of that I don't see Adobe growing no more... they are stuck. very stuck and without ideas. very sad. I need their software for work and if anything comes out before the update I will try it first.... pixelmator it's a good start (not for pros but it's getting there) and freeverse it's making hot apps too.... today we have options and all of us that owned a college degree and spend money on upgrades know the time of need.... something new. I you know what I mean..
 
Adobe always make the old interface an option.. Why would they drop the old style, currently the UI is super customizable.

FUD everywhere. Choices are good!

Caps in panel headers are no big deal, it takes me seconds to learn their positions spatially. Nobody should be getting up in arms over a new optional interface with many potential advantages. They aren't going to force anyone to use it like this.

Grr..
 
*yawn*

Why is everyone getting so worked up about this? It's slightly different than the current interface and from the article it sounds like much of the new stuff can be turned off. Like OMG, I'm gonna have to spend an extra 10-15 minutes setting it up on the first day I get it, damn no starbucks trip that morning I guess, or else the kids will starve do to lost client work!

Yeash get over yourselves people, everything looks like it's it in roughly the same spot as it is now.

I'd say Adobe has a lot bigger problems to whine about than this interface change, how about photoshop corrupting files when saving to a network in 10.5.3? Or flash files crashing as soon as you click in the "actions" box?
 
I WAS the one said:
It's another direction, something tells me that Adobe wont be the prefer suite for graphic production in 5 years from now.
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I just don't see this. Five years is a short time in the professional application category and Adobe's really got design professionals over a barrel. There's no credible competition to Illustrator and Photoshop even on the horizon. Microsoft is proposing possible alternatives to Acrobat, Flash and Dreamweaver, but Microsoft being Microsoft, they'll screw it up, tie it to some Vista technology and leave Adobe in roughly the same position they are now. InDesign's only competition seems to be from a company more hated than Adobe and Microsoft combined. :D
 
bdkennedy1 said:
The new Logic 8 has no color for the traffic lights. It was specifically stated at MWSF that the colors are going bye bye. They will be grey until you hover the mouse over them and then they will be colored.
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I'm not talking about the colors. I think Logic 8 and Aperture look beautiful and would absolutely love to see that as the next interface, but Adobe is using horrid gradients and things that were popular in about 1999 on the web. It looks awful in every possible way.
 
Choice is good. As long as the old behaviour is a configurable option, what's the problem?

Now I thought that Apple's Spaces was meant to be a solution for this problem, i.e., you stick Photoshop in its own space to avoid clashes with other applications.

As for the greys, that's sensible in a pro-app, especially a media application like this. As someone else mentioned, it is neutral, so what you see won't be affected by application bling or desktop bling.

As for the people whining about not being able to click through to icons on the desktop ... (1) Expose has a show desktop function that is probably quicker to activate than hunting for a hole through which to click and (2) organise your files properly and stop sticking them on the desktop. Messy!

I bet that once you use it, a lot of people won't go back. I'm sure that Adobe are putting the interface through a lot of user testing. Of course this could be a train wreck in the making ...
 
It reminds me of one of those old Windows apps that took over the whole screen. I thought that style died way back when M$ got rid of it, and Macs were lucky to never get it in the first place.

Spaces completely negates the need for this as you can simply select "photoshop" as the app allocated to monitor #4 (for example) and all of the associated windows will only appear in monitor #4.

I know nobody who puts a window behind photoshop then sets it to full-screen. Anybody on here been doing this? My view is that people who wish to do this can continue to do so as they are a definite minority. Whatever you do people will always have different opinions, I say we squash the minority in this case.
 
- It blocks out the contents of the desktop, minimizing visual clutter. (A number of Mac users have requested this option for many years. I've known quite a few people who open a small blank document, hit F to put it into full-screen mode, and then put it into the background to hide the desktop. Willingness to live with that kind of hack demonstrates some genuine desire for a real fix.)
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This is like laying a white sheet on your real desktop before putting your current work over it. A computer desktop shouldn't be used to dump clutter on.

Or I should say, you can "organize" your files anyway you want including just dumping it all over the desktop. But that's a personal choice. An application shouldn't "hide" this. If your desktop is so discombobulated it's distracting, perhaps you should consider another method of organization. Like, oh, I don't know. Putting music in /Music, documents in /Documents, photo's in /Pictures, and projects in a /Projects directory.

I hope you can disable it.
 
krunk said:
This is like laying a white sheet on your real desktop before putting your current work over it. A computer desktop shouldn't be used to dump clutter on.

Or I should say, you can "organize" your files anyway you want including just dumping it all over the desktop. But that's a personal choice. An application shouldn't "hide" this. If your desktop is so discombobulated it's distracting, perhaps you should consider another method of organization. Like, oh, I don't know. Putting music in /Music, documents in /Documents, photo's in /Pictures, and projects in a /Projects directory.
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Of course you're right, but many people don't have an uncluttered desktop.
Also, this idea to "block out" and "take over" the screen is something many audio apps have.

I know audio apps are far from Photoshop, but it's still a part of CS4, just like PS.
With audio apps, I do see a point to it: When you connect your recorder (or your card reader or whatever), then most people drag the audio to the desktop first. That way, you know that what you have there, is the most recent, the raw "tape". You can move them, when it's done. Also, if I get to work on a computer that isn't mine, I don't have a filing system set up, so - at least with audio apps - I do see a point.
Another thing, you get a wee bit more real estate.

Come to think of it, I like this sort of thing, although I hated it with a vengeance for browsers back in the day. It helps me to become that more focused while using the app.

I hope you can disable it.
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Yes, that should be a given. Are there any rumours that it might not be so?
 
UI is one thing

and it's OPTIONAL.. but I wish Adobe would finally rewrite the code to be Cocoa compliant all the way through.. now that would really be something NEW.. and while I'm at it they could revive FreeHand and trash Illustrator
 
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