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Adobe Points Finger at Apple on 'Get Flash' Page for iPhone

jamesryanbell said:
It doesn't matter what anyone thinks of the technology personally. It's FACTUALLY an integrated part of the web these days. It needs support on iPhone. Period.
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Damn right it does! I wish Adobe would get off their butts and make one for the iPhone that Apple could approve. Until then, we're all out of luck.
 
i like Apple because they stick to their guns. The guys that work there must be really smart so if they think that Flash is detrimental to the computer experience they want to offer, I trust them. They might be abusing their power, but, hey, it's all for bettering the future of computing.
 
Apple pleaseee don't put Flash on my iPhone! I'm tired of its memory leaks on my Mac with all the banner ads! I need to try that Flash blocker and see if that helps!
 
Didn't read through the whole thread so i'm not sure if this had been mentioned but there was a story on the TWIT the other day about a CEO who bought an iphone and tried to view his company's website but he couldn't because it was flash based. He then made his IT department completely re-write the website so that he could view it on his iphone.

I assume as the iphone becomes a more business orientated mobile more website may move away from flash.

IMO though I rarely go to a site where i need flash so i don't really care if it come to the iphone or not.
 
I think one of the main reasons Apple won't allow flash is because of Video. They don't want Hulu and other free movie sites competing with iTunes for the iPhone. At&t would also go crazy knowing that sites like UStream and Cnn live could stream live video over their network. Agree?
 
supernaut said:
Who cares about Flash? Most of the time it's used, it's because the web designers are too dumb or lazy to get the page right without it, because they haven't kept out with what a modern browser is capable of.
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Hey I hate Flash more than most but in this case Adobe has a clear case of doing the right thing...

Imagine just for a moment you were in charge of Flash at Adobe.... Okay, STOP! before you erase its entire existance off the Adobe corp. servers (and back ups) lol -- take a second and check your email and what's that you find? X hundred? x thousand?? people all crying to you why Flash doesn't work on the iPhone... If I were the man in charge I'd say enough of this crap ... we have an iPhone ready (aka SUPER CRAPTASTC!) version of Flash all packed up and ready to explode err... ready to go and Apple cuts us off?!?!? well &*#&$*( them! I'm not fielding any more nasty grams from people ask ME why its not on their stupid little crappy iPhone ... Lets tell em exactly WHY it's not and be done with the entire mess.

Now that was me being an Adobe guy... I actually have a great fondness for my iPhone and a mild hate over the controls Apple has imposed over App store approvals. I'm also a "hey what is this FLASH?! that you speak of?!?!" and why would I ever care to have it on my machine... I've got this flash blocker and cept for certian video sites I get by just fine without seeing crappy flash presentations that are pretending to be Web pages...

Sorry flashers. Flash is not the web no matter how much you beat the drum that it is. It's an abomination not unlike Microsofts Active X. So drop the flash-pipe, spark up a doob and read some Perl Camel books and once you've got a good head on then get some cookies and move over to some Ruby on Rails books or perhaps PHP. Get to know the 'real web'. 😀
 
MacUnixGuy said:
Yes, flash has issues, but there are several sites that I want to use from the iPhone that require it. It would be good for the iPhone to support it.
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Can you name off some of those sites and give their web address. Anyone else have sites they can name? I would like to see how much the lack of Flash on the iPhone cripples a web site. - thanks.
 
DaveGee said:
Sorry flashers. Flash is not the web no matter how much you beat the drum that it is. It's an abomination not unlike Microsofts Active X. So drop the flash-pipe, spark up a doob and read some Perl Camel books and once you've got a good head on then get some cookies and move over to some Ruby on Rails books or perhaps PHP. Get to know the 'real web'. 😀
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you forgot about Actionscript 😉
 
Bubba Satori said:
It works great everywhere except some apple computers, iphones and iPods.
But you knew that.
Put down the Koolaid and step away from the keyboard.
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That's because Adobe hasn't written a good version for the Mac yet. The mac version is a bloated resource hog. Everyone knows that.
 
I just installed ClickToFlash on all my Macs and my browsing experience has dramatically increased 1000% for the better. No more intrusive pop-up ads, distracting animations, and more importantly, long-loading, resource-intensive, useless, gimmicky intros and gadgets... unless I specifically ask for it.

I can only imagine what would happen if Flash apps on the iPhone didn't have such an ability to be optionally downloaded, let alone execute upon it loading. It's bad enough that AT&T's bandwidth is horrendous at times, I don't need to waste half a megabyte just downloading an advertisement.
 
Just support flash already...
I don't want it or need it, but Apple imposing this artificial restriction is so silly...
 
I like Flash video, but find flash interfaces and text presentations dreadful. No matter how pretty they look, they feel forced and inaccessible. I just want to get back to web page ASAP. Is there a way Adobe could make a light Flash phone plugin just for video?
 
BeyondtheTech said:
I just installed ClickToFlash on all my Macs and my browsing experience has dramatically increased 1000% for the better. No more intrusive pop-up ads, distracting animations, and more importantly, long-loading, resource-intensive, useless, gimmicky intros and gadgets... unless I specifically ask for it.

I can only imagine what would happen if Flash apps on the iPhone didn't have such an ability to be optionally downloaded, let alone execute upon it loading. It's bad enough that AT&T's bandwidth is horrendous at times, I don't need to waste half a megabyte just downloading an advertisement.
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+1
ClickToFlash is Awesome. My computer runs so much cooler now that I've installed it.
 
Who cares about Flash? It's a bloated, poorly written POS and i'd rather not have it. EVER. Hell, i turn it off on my Mac with ClickToFlash and just use H.264 unless Flash is the ONLY option. I wish Flash would just hurry up and die!
 
Maybe I just haven't read the correct information... but how is YouTube supported as an app on the iPhone without Flash? Does it download the files and use Quicktime (or something of the such) to play the downloaded .flv? Couldn't Apple work to apply this same concept to Flash as a whole online?

Again, I have done zero research on this.
 
BeyondtheTech said:
I just installed ClickToFlash on all my Macs and my browsing experience has dramatically increased 1000% for the better. No more intrusive pop-up ads, distracting animations, and more importantly, long-loading, resource-intensive, useless, gimmicky intros and gadgets... unless I specifically ask for it.
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That is a testament to exactly what's wrong with the internet.
Having to have an app to do that.

Shouldn't be there in the first place.

And Adobe perpetuates it.
 
In the 2 years I've had an iPhone, I haven't once visited a website that has needed Flash. Personally I really don't care if the iPhone gets it or not. It does the sites I need.

All this is, is Apple thinking it knows better than the consumer, a Steve Jobs mentality. I like his thinking but I'd like to see an actually push by Apple to make things better then.
 
There have been times when I wanted Flash to work on my iPod, but I'm glad Apple is keeping it off there. They just need to keep pushing HTML5 and eventually Flash will die and the internet will miraculously become faster.
 
if Adobe can get it's s*** together and make Flash work on OS X, then I would be more opposed to Apple's reluctance to see it ported to iPhone.
 
Anyone here think the HTC Hero is pretty flippin sweet? does it run flash?

ps I'm an iPhone user
 
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