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Adobe Suggests Disabled Hardware Acceleration for Flash Player in OS X Lion
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Exactly, and people wonder why the iphone does not support flash. Maybe if Adobe would get their crap together apple would use them on the iphone. But its things like this why Apple does not bother.
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I don't understand why this is such a big issue. As another person pointed out here on MacRumors in another topic, official support for Flash hardware acceleration was only available on three GPUs (NVIDIA GeForce 9400M, GeForce 320M, and the GeForce GT 330M) anyway, none of which are currently used in the newer models.
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Besides, doesn't YouTube offer videos in HTML5?
I'm going to file this under non-issue.
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Besides, doesn't YouTube offer videos in HTML5?
I'm going to file this under non-issue.
No one should ever be shocked when flash is mentioned in some sketchy bug. It's actually flash's role in the computer world and one they have never swayed from even though it has had 2 owners.
It's as if there was a board meeting of all the big company heads years ago and when they asked who wants the role of sucking really bad and more than most it was only the flash people that raised their hands.
It's as if there was a board meeting of all the big company heads years ago and when they asked who wants the role of sucking really bad and more than most it was only the flash people that raised their hands.
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You're forgetting about the fact that Apple also has the iPad, iPhone, and iPod Touch, in addition to the Mac, which dramatically increases how much influence Apple has over what should and shouldn't be standards on the web.
I've installed Click to Flash on my computer, and do you know what I've noticed? Flash is hardly used for anything other than ads these days. Flash is dying.
More on topic, I agree with others stating that Adobe is pathetic for having done nothing to prepare themselves for Lion despite having weeks if not months of betas supplied to them.
Hey, be fair, maybe no-one told them about Lion until this week!
I guess Adobe are not avid viewers of MacRumors then, with all the speculation of when Lion would be released.
hmmm however if thats the case, surely Adobe must have had plenty of time on their hands to test their software with upcoming operating system releases, and then ensure the embarrassing situation of Adobe being caught with their pants around their ankles (again).
HTML 5 is awfully slow in loading compared to Flash. Or at least it is on my dire network connection.
Adobe
If this were the only problem Adobe products had with Lion, and if we could believe Adobe after all the BS they put out there, there might be reason to give them the benefit of the doubt. Look at the tech note they have posted, the list is long and interesting. And, it doesn't include everything, users have posted many more problems. Apparently, Adobe only became aware of Lion yesterday....
This is a joke, get your act together, Adobe. In some ways its too bad iOS became so dominant, so fast. Before that, MS, Firefox, Opera, etc were all after Flash (even though Apple got all the press for it, do a search if there's anyone thinks I'm making this up). Flash just might be gone on the web now if some companies hadn't reversed course to give them something to take on Apple with. Someone needs to pry Freehand loose from Adobe's fingers, and make good competitors to all the rest of that crap, so this company can be put in the ground where it deserves to be. I'm sure their good people will have no trouble getting better jobs.
If this were the only problem Adobe products had with Lion, and if we could believe Adobe after all the BS they put out there, there might be reason to give them the benefit of the doubt. Look at the tech note they have posted, the list is long and interesting. And, it doesn't include everything, users have posted many more problems. Apparently, Adobe only became aware of Lion yesterday....
This is a joke, get your act together, Adobe. In some ways its too bad iOS became so dominant, so fast. Before that, MS, Firefox, Opera, etc were all after Flash (even though Apple got all the press for it, do a search if there's anyone thinks I'm making this up). Flash just might be gone on the web now if some companies hadn't reversed course to give them something to take on Apple with. Someone needs to pry Freehand loose from Adobe's fingers, and make good competitors to all the rest of that crap, so this company can be put in the ground where it deserves to be. I'm sure their good people will have no trouble getting better jobs.
Yes there is no such thing as double standard
- Adobe software buggy running on new OS itself having bugs is incompetence on part of Adobe. OS bugs themselves are totally acceptable and competent Engineering on part of Apple.
Adobe CS is a suite of applications I use all day every day, like many other users. But it is the buggiest pile of toss ever. There are annoying bugs in those apps that have been around for YEARS and Adobe still hasn't bothered to fix them.
So it doesn't surprise me at all that they haven't bothered to prepare for Lion. It pains me that the creators of such a powerful, capable suite can be so slothenly.
So it doesn't surprise me at all that they haven't bothered to prepare for Lion. It pains me that the creators of such a powerful, capable suite can be so slothenly.
Even still
Yes, yes, Netflix, Hulu, and others and all that, but really.
I have one of those Late 2009 Unibody MBPs with an nVidia 9400M and it's really okay. I promise it doesn't care. It's completely indifferent and not losing any sleep over this.
Everyone I know likes it. Perhaps just because a handful of people have trouble with something doesn't mean that 99% aren't willing to try it.
Most users won't see a difference. Hardware acceleration for flash was only enable on a few Nvidia graphics cards anyway.
Adobe should have said, "Flash Player [will continue to] cause higher CPU activity when playing a YouTube video. Possibly related to [non existent] hardware acceleration."
Adobe should have said, "Flash Player [will continue to] cause higher CPU activity when playing a YouTube video. Possibly related to [non existent] hardware acceleration."
Or maybe...
Maybe Adobe is PO'ed at Apple for all the Flash bashing and is dragging their feet on purpose, thinking "screw 'em." They don't like us. They are small. We'll get to it when we get to it...
Maybe Adobe is PO'ed at Apple for all the Flash bashing and is dragging their feet on purpose, thinking "screw 'em." They don't like us. They are small. We'll get to it when we get to it...
missing the point
So all you blinded fanatics are missing the point. what about backward compatibility? you really don't see beyond your noses. Have you realized that all design firms in the world use adobe products with apple platforms?
Most adobe products have become a standard in terms of graphic design, photo editing and web design and no, it is not like adobe forgot to make an update... they are not supposed to do it, the new OS MUST be backward compatible.
Apple is changing the rules with every update and I quote: "Many Adobe applications are dependent on the Oracle Java Runtime Environment (JRE) for some features to work. Apple recently changed the way it includes Java in Mac OS, and with Lion, Java is no longer preinstalled; it is now an optional install that the user must select."
Oracle Java is FREE and it's been around for a long time, and now because "stevie" said so, it must be removed from the OS.
And about the flash player subject... flash has been around for about 10 years and people should think in how to work together instead of stating that flash is over.
While you complaint about flash... people with actual brains make beautiful things that use both html5 and flash: http://www.orangecinemaseries.fr/evenement/universeries/en/
So all you blinded fanatics are missing the point. what about backward compatibility? you really don't see beyond your noses. Have you realized that all design firms in the world use adobe products with apple platforms?
Most adobe products have become a standard in terms of graphic design, photo editing and web design and no, it is not like adobe forgot to make an update... they are not supposed to do it, the new OS MUST be backward compatible.
Apple is changing the rules with every update and I quote: "Many Adobe applications are dependent on the Oracle Java Runtime Environment (JRE) for some features to work. Apple recently changed the way it includes Java in Mac OS, and with Lion, Java is no longer preinstalled; it is now an optional install that the user must select."
Oracle Java is FREE and it's been around for a long time, and now because "stevie" said so, it must be removed from the OS.
And about the flash player subject... flash has been around for about 10 years and people should think in how to work together instead of stating that flash is over.
While you complaint about flash... people with actual brains make beautiful things that use both html5 and flash: http://www.orangecinemaseries.fr/evenement/universeries/en/
It seems that Apple and Adobe are trying to kill Flash....
Take care... HTML5 is out there......
Take care... HTML5 is out there......
For those that want to watch and search youtube but not deal with flash or html5 I highly recommend MacTubes with the player setting in preferences set to quicktime. Everything will seem more like watching a video in VLC and will be just plain old h.264.
The other great advantages of it is that it makes it very easy to download any available quality available from 240p to 1080p and it also uses far less CPU than flash. As little as 1/3 the amount. My aunt can even watch up to 360p with it on her G4 500 that she refuses to upgrade from.
The other great advantages of it is that it makes it very easy to download any available quality available from 240p to 1080p and it also uses far less CPU than flash. As little as 1/3 the amount. My aunt can even watch up to 360p with it on her G4 500 that she refuses to upgrade from.