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Adobe Suggests Disabled Hardware Acceleration for Flash Player in OS X Lion
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Lion was released yesterday though and again, we don't know the source of the problems. They might not be Adobe problems. And implementing things like Version/Resume/etc... is probably not going to happen in the current version. It wasn't sold with those features, they won't "retrofit" them. It'll come in CS6 if Adobe decides to use them, which is completely optional.
That is for apps on the app store, and it's not strict, you have to present what parts of the OS you need access to in your project
Yeah, are you going to use Picasa to edit instead of
Photoshop?LOL
Good luck without PS.
One would have though that maybe Adobe should be a member of Apple's developer's program so they can get pre-releases of the new OS and not be taken be surprise on release day.
Why was Adobe not working on this problem months ago?
Why was Adobe not working on this problem months ago?
Six months? You're an optimist, aren't you?
Related: I recently upgraded to CS5.5 and was told by Adobe that CS6 could be a year or more off, despite the supposedly annual update "schedule" they've shifted to.
If indeed Adobe needs Apple to fix something in VDA and they have been trying to get this done for weeks or months, then a more professional statement from Adobe might have been in order. Once the NDA was lifted, Adobe should have said "We are aware of some issues with Flash Player on OS X Lion and have been working with Apple to remedy the situation, but are awaiting an update from Apple."
The way their statement reads is "Apple went and updated OS X and broke all our stuff". Which might be a valid internal reaction to the first DP of OS X Lion. But it is certainly not the kind of statement you expect from a major player like Adobe.
I think the reality of this is that Adobe's codebase stinks and is probably still legacy from the 90's. Add to that their policy of never fixing bugs (Dreamweaver still has bugs that have been there since MX) but just adding more and more features, it's no wonder that Flash requires 100% CPU just to move a line of text around a 300 pixel box.
As a web developer, I would gladly see the back of Flash forever. If I didn't have to have the plugin installed for work reference, I would lose it right now.
As a web developer, I would gladly see the back of Flash forever. If I didn't have to have the plugin installed for work reference, I would lose it right now.
Here is a solution.
http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/35606/youtube5-safari-extension
Also, I noticed that Flash isn't sandboxed despite running out-of-process in Safari.
Maybe the breakage is due to Flash not being sandboxed?
Maybe this is Apple's way of coercing third party devs making plugins for Safari into making sandbox profiles for the plugins?
http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/35606/youtube5-safari-extension
Also, I noticed that Flash isn't sandboxed despite running out-of-process in Safari.
Maybe the breakage is due to Flash not being sandboxed?
Maybe this is Apple's way of coercing third party devs making plugins for Safari into making sandbox profiles for the plugins?
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When as Apple offered the same courtesy to Adobe in the past ? Seriously, wasn't it Steve Jobs that called them lazy, which is the oft repeated mantra around here...
And seriously, he called them lazy over Flash, when it required Apple to ship a framework to help fix... and when Apple did, Adobe implemented it in less than a week.No, I do think that they didn't have to be courteous seeing the circumstances. Apple has been nothing be arrogant towards Adobe. I don't see where they deserve such respect.
Incompetent web designers.
Youtube: The movies are encoded with H264 and they use a Flash wrapper around the video. This is the case with most video sites on the net. Just remove the Flash wrapper and there would not be a problem.
Once pixelmator picks up .EPS format and allows you to actually "use" it properly (like photoshop, allowing you to make edits to sizes as it's a vector before it imports) I will be dropping photoshop altogether.
I CANNOT stand adobe. I have flash disabled on all my machines.
I just wish I found something to easily and effectively replace illustrator.... PS and illustrator are the last 2 things of adobe I use daily.
On a side note, I design all my websites for clients in HTML5. I DESPISE flash, but have for many many years and have always disabled it when possible. Just no need for it. I don't frequent youtube or the such.
I'm glad HTML5 is "slowly" picking up steam now and I see more and more "new-age" developers using it more and more often.
Side note #2: As much as I hate adobe, they are still WIDELY WIDELY used, and still needed (in my line of work anyways). I use photoshop and illustrator from CS5 daily.
I do refuse to do any flash sites for my web clients though, if they want flash, I recommend other designers for them. I won't do it, out of principle. Slowly shaping web 3.0 one site at a time
I CANNOT stand adobe. I have flash disabled on all my machines.
I just wish I found something to easily and effectively replace illustrator.... PS and illustrator are the last 2 things of adobe I use daily.
On a side note, I design all my websites for clients in HTML5. I DESPISE flash, but have for many many years and have always disabled it when possible. Just no need for it. I don't frequent youtube or the such.
I'm glad HTML5 is "slowly" picking up steam now and I see more and more "new-age" developers using it more and more often.
Side note #2: As much as I hate adobe, they are still WIDELY WIDELY used, and still needed (in my line of work anyways). I use photoshop and illustrator from CS5 daily.
I do refuse to do any flash sites for my web clients though, if they want flash, I recommend other designers for them. I won't do it, out of principle. Slowly shaping web 3.0 one site at a time
I knooowwww. I live in Illustrator and InDesign, and I would love for nothing more than for a real competitor to come along and blow them out of the water. (No offense, Quark XPress.)
Sorry, what were you saying?
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The problem was Adobe not being able to write decent code. Silverlight and about 50 other technologies worked fine, it was only Adobe having trouble. Even after they got the access they wanted, their performance was still far below the silverlight plugin for equivalent streams.
When as Apple offered the same courtesy to Adobe in the past ? Seriously, wasn't it Steve Jobs that called them lazy, which is the oft repeated mantra around here...
No, I do think that they didn't have to be courteous seeing the circumstances. Apple has been nothing be arrogant towards Adobe. I don't see where they deserve such respect.
Again...They needed the access because they were lazy.
I doubt they care much. Flash is a dieting product generating little revenue for them. I don't think there is any requirement for them to update CS5 to support new features.
Silverlight continues to work fine in Lion like it did in SL even before Adobe had access to the things they claimed they needed. It is sad when you can't seem to write code more efficiently and portable then Microsoft.
Bookmark this post. 12 months from today 3/4 of those will have no flash on their web sites at all.
Flash has never worked good on OSX. Barely works on Windows.
The strange thing with Flash for Lion is that it is multithreaded. Somehow it now consumes more then 1 CPU. I have 160-180% cpu utilization when using flash. This is on an I7 2.66ghz.
Flash needs to die. It does not bring anything we need.
Apple should just buy Adobe and dissolve the company.
The strange thing with Flash for Lion is that it is multithreaded. Somehow it now consumes more then 1 CPU. I have 160-180% cpu utilization when using flash. This is on an I7 2.66ghz.
Flash needs to die. It does not bring anything we need.
Apple should just buy Adobe and dissolve the company.
When I read "The list is unfortunately extensive" I panicked, but when you look at the article there doesn't appear to be a great deal to worry about. So, CS2 won't work because Rosetta is dead? Apart from the problem with droplets in more recent versions of Photoshop, I can't see anything that would prevent people upgrading to Lion.
Having said that, I need CS5 for my day to day work so I'm going to hold back just a little bit longer before I upgrade. Probably.
Having said that, I need CS5 for my day to day work so I'm going to hold back just a little bit longer before I upgrade. Probably.
Yep.
It's hard because Adobe has a strangle hold on the design world right now... and if you don't have software that EASILY imports/exports to any of their formats, you're obsolete.
Like .EPS for example. Pixelmator does EVERYTHING I need it to do, except that. But I use that format all the time, and pixelmator just cannot handle it.... it auto rastorizes it before it allows you to adjust the size (in it's vector format)... rendering .EPS useless.
Flash is
on it's way out IMHO. However, I'm diggin the reverse scrolling.. more like the IOS experience. The launchpad gesture is hard for bigger hands, but I'm gettin it. I can't help but be a bit paranoid as to where this is taking Apple and me for that matter. So far, I haven't found too much that's really borken.
on it's way out IMHO. However, I'm diggin the reverse scrolling.. more like the IOS experience. The launchpad gesture is hard for bigger hands, but I'm gettin it. I can't help but be a bit paranoid as to where this is taking Apple and me for that matter. So far, I haven't found too much that's really borken.
I love pixelmator... just missing one function for me... after they add it (which I'm told they "might" by their team)... I'll be 100% pixelmator and dropping PS... until then, I cry daily.
I kinda have a feeling Apple wants to make flash look bad by deliberately disabling hardware acceleration for it. Then they can blame Adobe for not updating it and Apple gets one more excuse to forbid it on iOS.
It is actually considerably more likely (and well supported by history), that Adobe is terrible at performance tuning software on every platform and does a fairly crappy job of properly leveraging published APIs and updating their software.
Awesome. Feature. Ever.
Scrolling is now the same across the board. Mac OSX/iOS.
Having two different ways to scroll on Mac/iPhone was stupid, but I will admit it will take some time to get use to.
Not incompetent by any means. Do you know the process it takes to revamp a website of that size? How many loopholes need to be jumped through, how much red tape there is on the coporate end before the designers even get the go ahead?
Those websites were made before HTML5 was more widely accepted (it's still not "that" widely accepted, I use it daiily though)....
They will catch up to the times... that's the downfall of big companies, takes long to adopt new things
Sounds like you've never used a mouse with a good scroll wheel. You'll have to rip my Logitech mouse with its hyperscrolling scroll wheel from my cold, dead hands. Additionally, on a mouse, thumb buttons are easier to activate than multi touch gestures. There are definitely some advantages to mutlitouch on a mouse, but there are also some definite drawbacks.
I don't think it really comes into its own until you put it on a trackpad (the magic trackpad is great).