Looks like Adobe might try to sue Apple now:
http://www.itworld.com/legal/104320/adobe-vs-apple-going-get-uglier
-Kevin
http://www.itworld.com/legal/104320/adobe-vs-apple-going-get-uglier
-Kevin
I'm pretty sure they don't have a case.
Apple can clearly point to RIM, Android, Windows Mobile, and (for now?) Palm as other options. If consumers care about things Apple doesn't offer then there are many other places for them to go.
The iPhone would have to have a much, much larger market share before this would even begin to be a legal issue.
You can not point to RIM, Android or Windows Mobile as all 3 allow side loading apps from location other than the official store.
So? I don't see how any of your points matter one bit.
The point is, the consumer has options. If consumers want Flash, for example, they will flock to the Android phones that offer it and Apple will lose business.
That's the free market at work. The legal system steps in when something prevents the free market from working. What's stopping it here? Nothing. It's working just fine.
Perhaps there's some legal reasoning I don't understand.
But it seems to me that if there are other phones (there are) and there are other app markets (there are) then Adobe needs to prove how Apple prevents people from buying Blackberry apps or Android apps. What is it about their low-sales did Apple cause?
Because I can't think of a reason.
But maybe I'm wrong (I'm no lawyer) and maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. But it seems to me that the fact that people own Blackberries and Android phones means that Adobe has every chance in the world to sell their software to those users.
I would think that's what matters: They have a (quite large) market available to them. Apple can't block that. If 90% of the users owned iPhones then, yes, Apple is cutting Adobe off from their buyers. But they don't. So what's stopping Adobe from selling to the other types of phones?
It is not about phones. I limited my argument to just the apps market. Apple has 99.4% of that market locked up.
That's what I'm saying. I don't think that's a market.
This is a lot like if CBS is getting 90% of the viewers for a time slot and NBC sues them by saying "it's not fair, they have more viewers, it's a monopoly!" Just because they have the majority of the viewers, that doesn't make it a monopoly. Owning all the channels would be a monopoly.
Group A
TV Channels (NBC, CBS) = Cell phone platforms (iPhone, Android)
Group B
TV Shows (House, Evening News) = App Stores (iPhone App Store, Android Store)
I'm pretty sure it's Group A that matters. If you own all the phone platforms or all the TV stations then that's a monopoly.
Group B is just consumers going where they want to go. Assuming Group A is being kept fair then I don't see how the government can step in on Group B.
So the Android developers are welcome to put out programs to attract buyers. And Adobe is certainly welcome to be one of those developers. Apple sure isn't stopping them.
But as niuniu succinctly points out. I'm not a lawyer.
You're right, it's not about phones. It's about perceptions. Apple's moves to block not only Flash from the Iphone platform but now also block Flash-derived apps tells the market that Flash is a bad product. And that's what Steve Jobs has been doing for ages but he hasn't been able to do too much to make a huge impact (regardless of the Iphone being such a success.) The Ipad has the possibility of making a huge impact if it takes off like many think it will, and with Adobe releasing software that will compile App Store-ready apps from Flash, Adobe was prepped to become a major player in the Iphone app game even without an Iphone Flash player. But this move to block their compiler says to everyone that Adobe products are bad, in general. How many people were set out to buy CS5 because they could make apps in it . . . and now they won't be because they can't do anything with it? Adobe wants to make the case that Apple is out to destroy their business in general.It is not about phones. I limited my argument to just the apps market. Apple has 99.4% of that market locked up.
That's like Burger King sueing McDonald's because they don't sell the whopper.
While Adobe has officially remained silent on the new cross-platform compiler issue other than to note that it is looking into the ramifications of Apple's move, a "platform evangelist" for the company strongly objected to the move, even going so far as to say "Go screw yourself Apple."Usually I write about security here, but Apple's iron-bound determination to keep Adobe Flash out of any iWhatever device is about to blow up in Apple's face. Sources close to Adobe tell me that Adobe will be suing Apple within a few weeks.
It was bad enough when Apple said, in effect, that Adobe Flash wasn't good enough to be allowed on the iPad. But the final straw was when Apple changed its iPhone SDK (software development kit) license so that developers may not submit programs to Apple that use cross-platform compilers.
And just what is Adobe going to sue Apple for ?