Except - it really is all about Flash. You've even said it yourself - "Adobe just happen to make something that can take something coded in flash and compile it to run on an iPad/Phone/Pod". If Flash (and Flash generated content) is allowed on the iPhone/iPad/Touch then that circumvents the whole iTunes "ecosystem" (inane description). It is very strongly in Apple's interests to block any third party that can provide content without paying Apple their 30% cut. If Apple can also block app generators that just happen to use Flash technology, then so much the better (for them). Apple just really really hate Flash and Flash content generators. It's nothing personal, it's just business. Shame that the consumer has to suffer but hey ho.
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Except - it really is all about Flash. You've even said it yourself - "Adobe just happen to make something that can take something coded in flash and compile it to run on an iPad/Phone/Pod". If Flash (and Flash generated content) is allowed on the iPhone/iPad/Touch then that circumvents the whole iTunes "ecosystem" (inane description). It is very strongly in Apple's interests to block any third party that can provide content without paying Apple their 30% cut. If Apple can also block app generators that just happen to use Flash technology, then so much the better (for them). Apple just really really hate Flash and Flash content generators. It's nothing personal, it's just business. Shame that the consumer has to suffer but hey ho.
Well this is not about flash player.
This is about making apps using the flash software, which is two different things.
In this case it kind of is like apple tricked you into buying into the idea that you cna devlop using what ever tools you want. The new rules happened now. My developer friends are pissed, I can see other private lawsuits happen, wages paid for a long time for people to write games. I'm sure there are unity projects stuck like that too now.
The iPAD is neither a phone or a portable game machine per se.
It's being marketed as an internet device akin to a netbook that can also do the above things.
As an iPhone user myself, the lack of FLASH is not bothersome to me, but on a laptop or computer, it would be.
Therein lies the difference.
I'd rather buy an app created in CS5 coded by a professional Action Script coder with 5 years experience, then an app created in XCode by a former Action Script coder who just learned Objective-C.
Of course a developer can learn more than one language. He can create his app in Objective-C and then rewrite the whole thing in C# and Action Script. But is this efficient? No.
Also, he'd be a jack of all trades, master of none.
To paraphrase Clinton "It's the apps, stupid"
. I can see a lot of shops abandoning Apple if they feel that they're not going to be supported in the future. As you say, you spend most of your time in the application. The underlying OS makes little difference and is easily adjusted to.And, yet, every single report on the Flash to iPhone converter says that it's much slower than Flash in a web browser. So much for your theory.
Perhaps you should learn more about how the iPhone converter works. It simply embeds a boilerplate on top of a redistributable flash runtime with the app.
So yeah, this is about flash. Adobe wants to put little flash engines with every app you build.
Go and read the reviews sometime for a few of the apps that were made this way and you'll understand why Apple doesn't want it.
Hint: Lots of complaints about slow, buggy, non-responsive applications.
why bother spending out so much money to basically work full time in Windows |(..
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Ofcourse Apple has more money to back up, though Apple (computers) would lose a lot of profit if (hypothetical) Adobe is focussing only on Windows.
Umm... really?
Adobe writes a sh**ty plugin for the Mac (and publicly admits it's because they've diverted resources to Windows development), and it's then Apple's responsibility to 'sort out' their OS so that Adobe's crap won't smell as bad?
Wow. Just wow.
you do not get it....
Apple would still get their 30% cut because the apps made on the cross compilers still are sold thew the app store.
Please provide links..... You are the one making the argument provide links
Also both above post do not get it because this is about any cross compilers. Hell anything that is not in native machine language (1 and 0) has something in the middle converting it.
So, you want Apple to redesign the OS to make Flash run better? The fact that Flash runs like **** on OS X is ADOBE'S FAULT - NOT APPLE'S. Apple does not have to fix Adobe's screwups.
As has been explained plenty of times, this would be suicide for Adobe.
Mac users account for 40-50% of Adobe revenues. Adobe user account for a much smaller portion of Apple revenues. Plus, Apple has $40 billion in the bank to either weather the storm or take action.
Apple could buy pixelmator and then update it - and have it on the market in less than a year. Heck, since a large fraction of Photoshop functions are already built into OS X, it might not take that long.
Or Apple could dedicate half a dozen software engineers to improving GIMP.
Or Apple could just buy controlling interest in Adobe and STILL have $30 billion in the bank.
Therein lies one of the main problems Apple is trying to rid itself of.
Script kiddies.
Oh crap- I just got nervous about my upcoming Civ Pro final
LOL. Law students are funny.
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I am happy to see Apple getting sued over this. They should.
Apple has been horribly litigious lately, mostly with the aim of stiffing competition. Glad to see someone calling their bluff.
If Adobe declines it, then yea. Yea, for the sake of Mac's users, yea. LET it integrate in OS with a tiny smally little update, which shouldn't be so hard to do.
Except that I'm not cheering Adobe, I could care less about them.
I'm just slamming Steve Jobs for his utter arrogance towards his customer base.
By the way, if no website you go to has FLASH content, you'd have to live in a Cave and be the Geico guys. Almost every local or national news website I go to uses FLASH content.
I guess fanboys don't follow any news other than Macrumors.com LOL
What bluff is apple making, and how is suing without a cause of action calling that bluff?
(See what I did there? I just called your bluff).
You would also be fired pretty quickly for forgoing a sizable chunk of your revenue for a silly spat.
Steve Jobs might not like Flash, but I don't recall him equating it to be like a computer virus, as some security companies evidently have. Not to mention all the "slander" Flash gets in this forum. If Adobe won't sue for that...
Lawsuits are expensive. It's probably not in Adobe's interests to terminate a very lucrative revenue stream. Not to mention they just spent all that money developing and releasing CS5 for the Mac. I doubt their shareholders would like to see that become a "sunk cost" with no revenues.
That's like buying a laptop with integrated graphics and complaining because you just realized that you can't play Crysis on it.
The good news is you can sell your iPad for at least as much as it will cost you to buy a JooJoo.
God, you're a DUMB fanboy.
Could you at least put up a reasonable legal justification?
Okay, the time has come to require high school students to pass a test in basic business law to get a diploma--or better still to get to vote. Or even better, to obtain a license to post in forums.