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We agree to disagree. That's why we discuss opinions here, whether we agree or not. It was a lighthearted jab but if you were offended, I apologize.
Oh I wasn’t. I thought your stop trolling comment was funny.

Don’t know what we disagree on. I was just stating that it’s better to have the jack than not. I never said or expect it to come back in an iPhone.
 
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If you hate Apple why are you reading these forums? It’s an honest question, please provide an honest answer.

Wow lots of flack from the above posters. Good! I don't mind. Say what you want, its one less option that they only got rid of to sucker people into spending more money thru Apple. Please tell me you can grasp that!! How can you say it's progress when it's not superior to its predecessor. So wrong on that account!

I will concede convenience for bluetooth, although it is certainly not better. Bluetooth does not sound nearly as good as wired and if you don't know or notice, then you are the perfect flock apple loves.

How are any of you making the comparison of wired headphones to Standard def TV. Come on you guys are you that naive? Its actually the other way around. Wired would be HD and bluetooth 480i.

Airpods sound about the same as the stuff they give you in the box. You paid apple $159 to get rid of the wire with maybe slighty better sound quality?

I know BT is convenient, I only use them for the gym because wires do get in the way during a workout. When I actually want to LISTEN to and enjoy music, never BT.

Headphone jack better for wired audio to BT speakers and vehicle audio. BT lacks depth and punch by quite a bit.

I have yet to hear anything a BT connection sound better than wired.
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Didn't say it would come back. All I did was make a post wondering why the Airpods would be such a high selling item on Cyber Monday when I never saw them on sale. And people who owned Airpods got pretty defensive. LOL hilarious!!

Saying it's in the past basically only pertains to Apple iPhone and Pixel 2. So its very current on almost every other device. They only difference is most other companies don't force your hand to buy BT buds or headphones like greedy Apple.

It's somewhat snobbish to assume that only having BT is better, because it clearly is not. You could still use BT headphones when they had a jack, so its NOT what i would call progress
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Point 2- disagree, they had tons of Beats devices in the wild and they would REALLY PISS alot of people off. Apple also knew tons of people would buy Airpods
Point 3 - who the hell wants to carry that thing around. Its a handicap.
Point 4 - I'm not attacking or insulting. Because I said some people are sheep? If it doesn't apply to you and you know deep down, then the statement would not bother you. But if you did feel that way deep down then you may be agitated. But my statement about apple doing what they did to slaughter more wallets because they no longer supported wired headphones is not incorrect. They are MASTERS at it. That is why they are the worlds biggest company, and maybe you will pickup on some of their less than desirable tactics with some critical thinking.

NOW.... if apple didn't get rid of the headphone jack the same time they came out with Airpods, I would not call it the underhanded, shady move it was. BOO APPLE, I see thru you, others i feel don't, and think apple does no wrong. DEFINTION - SHEEP.
 
The Touch ID folks are in that same denial stage haha.
count me in as living the past- picked up an 8+ from target around $400 after trade in rebate and 5% discount - a no brainier in my case - after picking up the X I would be losing too much screen real estate for my remote support work
 
If you hate Apple why are you reading these forums? It’s an honest question, please provide an honest answer.
I used to like Apple a lot more than now and I own a bunch of their products. I just think they could give customers a lot more than they do for what they charge people. they have been lazy and getting sloppier the last 5 years or so and their design, which apple used to be applauded for is getting worse and worse. I think they could do better. I’m not the only one who realizes how much Apple has been disappointing more and more people. But everyone on here seems to measure apple's success by their bank account. Yes they make good products but they also are quite greedy.

Don't think me being critical of them would classify me as hating them because I expect more.
 
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They look ridiculous. Easy to lose. Fall off from ears. Overpriced. Nobody will buy them.

(The Internet, 2016)
Well considering there was limited stock for almost a year... yeah I think a lot of people bought them
 
I used to like Apple a lot more than now and I own a bunch of their products. I just think they could give customers a lot more than they do for what they charge people. they have been lazy and sloppy the last 5 years or so I think they could do better. I’m not the only one who realizes how much Apple has been disappointing more and more people.

With that I can agree with. They have been slacking off the last few years.
Love those 2 cigarette butts that stick out of me furry ears!

Compared to the hundreds of BT earphones that all look alike with no distinguishing look to tell what kind it is?

#UNIQUE #nodoubtitsapple
 
There are other products just like it though for cheaper prices. I think wireless is the future but Airpods are clearly overpriced. Not sayin it’s not a quality product though.

Please tell me how apples wireless headphones are so much of game changer than another pair of wireless headphones that you would call it your coolest Apple product ever?




Airpods on sale where?

The fact that they are completely wireless (only a few other than apple exist) is what makes them special, take one out to pause music. Pop one in to answer my phone while its ringing. SEAMLESSLY. Double tap for Siri or to skip songs. Yes all of that is cool and not offered in any other product.

The fact I just had to explain that means I guess you just don't get it. Users of Airpods absolutely love them. Those are the facts. Take it or leave it.
 
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They basically forced some people into a corner of inconvenience for the reasons stated above, since they removed the most viable option for a device that plays music and sound and replaced it with a Frankenstein method of using an audio cable. Let's not get into needing to charge it at the same time.

I said force your hand, in other words, not leaving you very much option and/or convenience for doing something any other way but theirs.
So they didn’t force everyone to buy BT headphones at all.
Cool, thanks for clearing that up.

As for “not leaving you very much option”, Apple gives you 3 options,

Lightning headphones (supplied with iPhone or 3rd party),
3.5mm headphones with free adapter.
BT headphones.

So one more option then you had on iPhones with 3.5mm port.
 
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Well considering there was limited stock for almost a year... yeah I think a lot of people bought them

I think quite a bit of that was short production, as I think they also missed or delayed the launch date, as seems to be more commonplace with the apple of today. See my above post regarding their sloppiness.
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So they didn’t force everyone to buy BT headphones at all.
Cool, thanks for clearing that up.

As for “not leaving you very much option”, Apple gives you 3 options,

Lightning headphones (supplied with iPhone or 3rd party),
3.5mm headphones with free adapter.
BT headphones.

So one more option then you had on iPhones with 3.5mm port.
First of all I never said they "Forced everyone to buy BT headphones" as I explained in the last reply to you. What I said and what you say I said are different things since you misquote. I understand if you may have misinterpreted. If you don't think that the move was designed to shove people in that direction especially with the Airpods coming out and the jack disappearing, then I don't know what else to say. It was calculated and planned well in advance.

Lightning headphones - Limited options available
Free adapter - PITA
BT headphones - Convenient but still a compromise and the direction they wanted to push you in, like I've been saying
 
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Can everyone just stop with the "overpriced" nonsense comments???......Its beyond an old argument. If you think Apple's higher pricing is overpriced then why the hell are you even on this site.....an Apple site discussing Apple products that people own? Either the complainers don't own the products or they're trolls.
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I think quite a bit of that was short production, as I think they also missed or delayed the launch date, as seems to be more commonplace with the apple of today. See my above post regarding their sloppiness.
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All 3 options are comprises and crummy
So buy another phone with a headphone jack. Its not coming back.....get over it.
 
count me in as living the past- picked up an 8+ from target around $400 after trade in rebate and 5% discount - a no brainier in my case - after picking up the X I would be losing too much screen real estate for my remote support work
Fair enough. Everyone chooses what’s best for them. I’m more speaking of the people that have convinced themselves it’s coming back next year. It likely isn’t. For better or for worse we have Face ID now.
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You’re not funny :/
I wasn’t trying to be. I like Touch ID. I like the headphone jack too. I think removing that was the single most user hostile thing Apple has done in recent memory. Nobody is better off without it, we would have had the same Bluetooth options had it remained.
 
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Why people? Ok the iPads I can understand getting on CM. The Airpods weren't even on sale anywhere I saw. You could have gotten them 6 months ago for the same price. The damn Airpods and Beats acquisition ARE THE REAL REASON YOU HAVE NO HEADPHONE JACK IN AN IPHONE. They figured a way for the sheep to have to buy more of their products and still think they were brilliant as they laugh in your face and head to the bank.


How does the removal of the headphone jack, causing me to sell my beats pro's and buy Sennheiser HD 4.4's help Apple at the bank whatsoever?
 
AirPods look same as EarPods -minus the wire. But I guess minus the wire it does freak some people out and all the sudden it becomes weird looking. Ohh people!!!
Yes, they fall from a certain ears ...but while EarPods were dead easy to fall from my ears being pulled by the wire, after almost a year using AirPods and running with them quite frequently I have yet to see them dropping from my ears. And another’s thing. Using still Apple Watch original and loving it just as much as I did the first day it was launched.
I love technology, I have positive mind and I don’t dream of it failing.
Wireless doesn’t freak me out. I just don’t think they look good. Other buds look better to me. It’s that simple.

I tried them for a week. Once I got a good sweat going there wasn’t a good way to keep them in. I could buy a third party tips ornloop, but those didn’t work with the case. I know me and I’d lose them if I had to take them off every time I store them.

Glad you like the Apple watch. Much wife has a first gen that she upgraded to stainless last year when Best Buy dropped the prices significantly. She still loves it.

You’ll note that I specifically mentioned my needs and wants. I’ve been an early adopter odnthinngs and I’ve waited for others to mature into what I wanted from them. I’m glad to have that choice.
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My point was, and I may be mistaken... But I did not see Airpods on sale on CM. That was the gist of my post. Ipads, yeah, decent discount.
I understood your point. I wasn’t trying to argue. I was just trying to give you a reason why people are “all of the sudden” buying these. It’s a decent gift without severely breaking the bank. If you know someone that loves Apple and you don’t have $1000 to get them an X, maybe you have the money for a set of Airpods. While $250 is a great deal on an iPad, the Airpods are still about $100 less. Cyber Monday is huge, people are online buying things and checking people off their lists. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of these items are coming up in targeted ads either.
 
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Can everyone just stop with the "overpriced" nonsense comments???......Its beyond an old argument. If you think Apple's higher pricing is overpriced then why the hell are you even on this site.....an Apple site discussing Apple products that people own? Either the complainers don't own the products or they're trolls.
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So buy another phone with a headphone jack. Its not coming back.....get over it.
How does the removal of the headphone jack, causing me to sell my beats pro's and buy Sennheiser HD 4.4's help Apple at the bank whatsoever?
It steered you in the direction to purchase new BT headphones. Kind of re-iterating my point. Although in YOUR case you went with a different brand, think of all the other people who do the same as you and buy Beats or Airpod. That's essentially the point of my previous posts.
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I understood your point. I wasn’t trying to argue. I was just trying to give you a reason why people are “all of the sudden” buying these. It’s a decent gift without severely breaking the bank. If you know someone that loves Apple and you don’t have $1000 to get them an X, maybe you have the money for a set of Airpods. While $250 is a great deal on an iPad, the Airpods are still about $100 less. Cyber Monday is huge, people are online buying things and checking people off their lists. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of these items are coming up in targeted ads either.[/QUOTE]

I know you weren't. I basically entered this discussion wondering how they sold so well on cyber monday when they were the same price as any other day. Yes I do understand that the Airpods being one of the cheaper devices would sell in higher volume.
 
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Im glad your need are met. I do miss the headphone jack as I prefer to hear more punch and range in my music and use it on more devices, and not to just listen on middle of the road sounding Airpods, without having to carry around a dongle.

Can't you just leave the little 4" dongle on the end of the 36" of headphone cables? Then there's nothing to "carry"

Also... if the 4" dongle is too much to deal with... how on Earth do you manage a giant set of headphones?

How exactly would you "carry" these? :p

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BTW... I'm just ribbing you. All in good fun. :)

I just think it's funny that the tiny dongle bothers people so much... but the act of carrying a big set of cans is A-OK
 
Can't you just leave the little 4" dongle on the end of the 36" of headphone cables? Then there's nothing to "carry"

Also... if the 4" dongle is too much to deal with... how on Earth do you manage a giant set of headphones?

How exactly would you "carry" these? :p

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BTW... I'm just ribbing you. All in good fun. :)

I just think it's funny that the tiny dongle bothers people so much... but the act of carrying a big set of cans is A-OK
I think the folks that are most annoyed probably have multiple sets of earphones/buds.

It wouldn’t be a huge problem for me since I only ever use them for sport. But my friend has like five sets. Leaving them in one probably means he will not have it handy when he needs it.

To be fair, he also doesn’t use iOS lol.
 
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Not on Amazon they weren’t, they sold Echo Dots and Fire TV sticks the most, unsurprisingly. Another tech filled Christmas for people I foresee..

I will be getting an Echo Dot 2 for crimbo that was bought in the sales, I also got a Dson hoover half price and today for my brother in law I got a PS4 Pro for 260 down from 330 pounds, this was a very limited offer on Amazon UK today. Should make a nice Christmas present for him.
 
Not surprising at all. Look at the pricing. For under $250 you can get Christmas out of the way. When people are asking for phones and TVs on the regular these days, that kind of money is a bargain.

I don’t think I’ll ever have a pair of air pods so long as they’re an all plastic bud. No, they don’t stay in my ears on a run, and that’s the only time I’ll ever use them.
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See above.

they stay in the ears just fine for 99% of people on earth.
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Airpods are probably the coolest product apple has come out with in a looooong time. Can't imagine not having them ad I see them more and more daily. They convenience factor is off the charts.

I know right ! Funny reading back on all the hater comments...Look who's laughing now :D
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Not at all. I don't say the Airpods are a bad device, I think they are very convenient, although overpriced. For that matter, I think all BT headphones and speakers ARE WAY OVERPRICED and they are. But it doesn't seem to stop people from buying tons of them at full retail.

That's why I saw sales for many of them at half price, and money was still being made. I even bought another BT speaker since they were half off!!;)

These "overpriced" comments, as an AirPods owner, are a joke and laughable to me. Sure they will become cheap in 2020 but for now, they're worth every penny. And I'm only writing this to help. I know many of you are too cognitive dissonant to realize the worth of these things - that's not our problem. Is the X damn expensive? Yes. Are "Studio Monitor Headphones" expensive? Yes. Are the AirPods expensive? Well yes obviously. They have built in chips, work independently, Siri, tacticle sensors etc. Overpriced and calling their audio quality terrible, which I still can't forget someone actually wrote in another thread in here, should actually be moderated because it's so far out of line of the truth, someone like me has a hard time not calling these folks for what they are, in fear of MY post getting removed.
 
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Not surprised about the AirPods. They're fun to use, and I've been seeing them a lot more often on my college campus.
 
Can't you just leave the little 4" dongle on the end of the 36" of headphone cables? Then there's nothing to "carry"

Also... if the 4" dongle is too much to deal with... how on Earth do you manage a giant set of headphones?

How exactly would you "carry" these? :p

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BTW... I'm just ribbing you. All in good fun. :)

I just think it's funny that the tiny dongle bothers people so much... but the act of carrying a big set of cans is A-OK
HaHa, i know your point, but what about when you are plugging your phone into a few audio devices a day. aux audio, speakers, car, then may use head phones. You would have to carry the dongle everywhere you go, it's a pain.
 
AirPods are popular because they’re currently the best wireless earphones or IEMs on the market.

No matter where else you look, Jaybird or Bose or whatever other brand, their comparable products have BT strength issues, and/or syncing issues between left and right earpieces.

Otherwise, use one of the models with a cable around the back of the neck, which aren’t even necessarily better.

After a lot of research, looking at sound, BT performance, customer support, issues with fit, the Bose SoundSport were the best pair of wireless earphones with the cable behind the back.

Completely wireless? No contest. AirPods win. Even if Bose and Jaybird fixes the syncing and range issues, they still don’t win on price. Not even close. With Bose, they even ask you to BUY the charging case for another $50.
 
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