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Is it just me who feels likes the AirPods Pro is one of the longest lifecycles of an Apple product? I’ve been waiting a long time to upgrade to AirPods Pro but have been holding out on upgrading since a ‘new version’ has been coming for a looooong time.

It will be 3 years in October. Maybe the challenge is in putting enough new features inside to justify an upgrade. It’s feels pretty complete, features wise.
 
the only thing I would ask for is increased reliability. This is the worst Apple product I’ve purchased for reliability. I’ve had three earpieces die on me. Two replaced under warranty and the third outside warranty.
 
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It’s so weird since I didn’t do anything particularly different. It stopped working from one day to the next at a hotel in Mexico. I took them to the Apple Store but since the lightening connector seems to be dead (even though it looks perfectly fine) they couldn’t do a hardware test either. I am surprised they still charge wirelessly or that they still appear on the iPhone when I open the case to be honest. You would think everything is connected? Super weird but oh well, as long as I can still charge them wireless, I can hold off until the 2nd Gen

Yup that is what I am doing as well. Very weird. Wireless charging works well and the iPhone still shows their charge here as well.
 
They have a very primitive version where they just remember the last place where the AirPods were disconnected. After that point, they have no idea what happened to them. I constantly get warnings that my AirPods Pro were left at place X. In reality, I just put them in my pocket at place X and drove away. that warning is both annoying and near useless.

If the new ones have actual, constant location awareness, that will be a big improvement.
Thank you for your response. Based on that info, the article should have said “The AirPods Pro 2 are expected to have improved Find My functionality, allowing them to be located with the Find My app, even when turned off.”
 
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But AirPods Poe (1) are already in FindMy? Or is this the thing with the louder noise?
AirPods pro have a very basic findmy that is based off of bluetooth.

However, once you put them in the case, the best the phone can do is remember where you were when you put them in the case. if you move the case, it won't know.

This new feature sounds like it is using the new location chips that continue to respond to location checks even when in the case. and are more accurate than the bluetooth method.
 
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They are confusing ‘hearing aid functionality’ with a feature many hearing aids have: remote microphone. Phonation has the Roger mic and many other brands have remote microphones that let hearing impaired users place the mic on a table or at a lecture or let someone wear it. The remote mic then broadcasts the sound directly to the user’s hearing aid. That’s what the sensors/mic in the charging case would do.

This is not hearing aid functionality. HA functionality is the capture of sound and reprocessing it to match a user’s hearing needs. It goes way beyond simple amplification of the signal. It includes amplification of certain frequencies and sometimes moving the sound from one frequency that can’t be heard to another that can. It also includes sound processing to help distinguish consonants from one another. All this can make music sound horrible, so HAs will have a music mode to turn all that off so all you get is amplification and as much natural sounding music as the user can hear without the processing.

There’s already enough confusion and BS in the hearing aid market without tech writers further muddying the water calling a remote mic feature ‘hearing aid functionality’. Do your homework.
 
We had wireless headphones 40 years ago that were capable of lossless audio?
Well, I wasn’t referring to wireless headphones, I was more making the point that wireless headphones are not yet up to the basic standards of even cheap wired headphones if they can’t transmit/recieve audio without relying on a lossy compression scheme that wired headphones were never subject to…

But technically speaking, yes. There were wireless headphones back in the 80’s/90’s that relied on low power FM transmitters. I won’t say they were very good, at least not any of the pairs I’ve ever owned. But they still didn’t rely on lossy encoders. They may have been subject to interference but at least they did not suffer from compression artifacts.
 
AirPods pro have a very basic findmy that is based off of bluetooth.

However, once you put them in the case, the best the phone can do is remember where you were when you put them in the case. if you move the case, it won't know.

This new feature sounds like it is using the new location chips that continue to respond to location checks even when in the case. and are more accurate than the bluetooth method.
But AirPods Poe (1) are already in FindMy? Or is this the thing with the louder noise?
Yeah. Right now it can tell you your AirPods are in a hotel in Phoenix, but the new findmy tech will let you find them under the bed with your crumpled empty Trojan package.
 
I've just bought a decent DAC and wired headphones for listening to music in the best quality I can afford but these do look good. I'll keep my current AirPods Pro for when I need to use wireless earbuds.
Time and a place, my friend! Which DAC did you end up choosing?

I’m satisfied (I suppose) with my AirPod Pro’s - they provide me with a reasonable enough audio experience whilst on the go. The most important features for me are microphone quality (of which they are extremely good) and usability (of which they are extremely annoying). I dislike when I’m on a meeting/call and they decide to connect to another device simply because I unlocked it. Surely a phone call takes precedence? (Yes, this is more of a software gripe, I appreciate that).

Also - feature request! Please let me have multiple audio connections from multiple devices. Maybe I want to listen to my sports team in the background whilst I _ahem_ attempt to be productive in a meeting. ;)
 
They are confusing ‘hearing aid functionality’ with a feature many hearing aids have: remote microphone. Phonation has the Roger mic and many other brands have remote microphones that let hearing impaired users place the mic on a table or at a lecture or let someone wear it. The remote mic then broadcasts the sound directly to the user’s hearing aid. That’s what the sensors/mic in the charging case would do.

This is not hearing aid functionality. HA functionality is the capture of sound and reprocessing it to match a user’s hearing needs. It goes way beyond simple amplification of the signal. It includes amplification of certain frequencies and sometimes moving the sound from one frequency that can’t be heard to another that can. It also includes sound processing to help distinguish consonants from one another. All this can make music sound horrible, so HAs will have a music mode to turn all that off so all you get is amplification and as much natural sounding music as the user can hear without the processing.

There’s already enough confusion and BS in the hearing aid market without tech writers further muddying the water calling a remote mic feature ‘hearing aid functionality’. Do your homework.

I use the current AirPod Pro model as a substitute hearing aid. When I set them up I put picture of my audiogram in and the software read it and programmed them. I find the noise cancellation works much much better for my condition than the very expensive top of the line hearing aids I got form an audiologist. The major drawback is the battery life and the volume is not always loud enough for my borderline severe loss. They can work quite well for those with mild to moderate loss.

If this isn't already a feature baked into iOS (vs. third-party app), as Green242's post seems to suggest, then it's perfectly plausible that it's coming. Frequency-selective amplification and shifting is not a new or difficult task for modern audio processors.
 
I keep using my cheap Beats Flex. I won't spend money on these unless they came with better repairability scores. Spending 250 seems steep compared with 50 on cheap Beats Flex that I own. May be better to buy with Apple Care?
 
Some of those features are very interesting. I doubt they would be on every model however.

What I'd like to see from Airpods is a different sort of surface- maybe something soft?
They are quite difficult to grip getting them out of the box and as you pinch them your fingers slide off and they have a habit of pinging away.
Then because they are hard and a really bizarre shape they bounce a long way and in a very unpredictable fashion which is why so many get lost. That could be avoided by making them a bit grippier and having them soft, at least in places, so they don't bounce so far.
 
yes, I suppose the actual ear pieces can do that. Where I run into limitations is when they are stored the case and the phone only knows where they were when they were put away.
As I said full integration into find my would be nice :)
 
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Could you post a link to this process?

Found this doctor off AUD on YouTube who explains the process. If you don't have an audiogram you can make your own with the Mimi app, it links for a download when you set them up with the health app.



Hope that helps!
 
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