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AirPods Pro Demand is So Strong That Apple is Reportedly Doubling Production
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I wasn’t aware this service was available. Honestly though I’m looking for an excuse to get the Pros anyway
I don’t see Apple facing any meaningful competition in this area. So whether I like it or not is immaterial.
If I look at what Apple has done with the Apple Watch and AirPods, they have invested a lot of resources into developing their own custom technology and software, as well as emphasise power efficiency and technology miniaturisation.
If you are an iPhone user and want a modern smart watch experience, there isn’t really much of an alternative outside of the Apple Watch. Because of Apple’s control over hardware and software, the Apple Watch will have features no other wearable can. And because Apple owns the best customers thanks to the iPhone, they are able to charge a premium, knowing their customers have the propensity and the ability to spend on “niceness” such as materials and watch bands. This profit ensures Apple is committed to further improving the Apple Watch (because that’s where the money is), while also having the financial resources to do so.
It’s hard to not see the exact same scenario apply to the Apple glasses (or any other wearable Apple makes). If you want the best integrated experience from a pair of smart glasses, there isn’t a reason not to go with Apple’s own homegrown solution, however late it may be or however much it may cost.
I don’t know if this is considered cheating or if Apple may faced renewed accusations of being a monopoly here, that’s the writing I see on the wall. The more wearables Apple releases, the more cohesive an experience they enable, and the harder it is for the competition to compete (as if they weren’t already facing an uphill battle).
It’s the classic “rich get richer” scenario. While everyone was criticising Apple for not releasing a foldable phone, they were quietly working on expanding their wearables strategy, and it looks like Apple just may have bet on the right horses all this while.
I don't suspect that Apple Store would even take the time to replace a battery on an AP/APP, it would be far simpler and cost effective for them to just hand you a replacement and recycle the defective ones. Given the time to open one, replace the battery, make sure the water resistant seal is all good and the various tests in the given time a customer is willing to wait even with AppleCare, it make more sense to for Apple to just give your a replacement white box.
I have never purchased AppleCare/+ and all my devices with the exception of an iPhone battery change they just gave me a new one. I even ended up getting a new iPhone (white box) on two occasions which were all near the end of the complimentary warranty. One of the devices there cause was clearly mine and they ended up replacing the battery though they could have charged me. I have never had an issue with the Apple Store, though that does not mean that others have not be unfortunate maybe it depends on location and employees, dunno.
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While I do not dismiss Apple's contributions in this area, they like any other corporation buy or license technology form other smaller companies. Those start-up is where I am placing my hope that something creative and innovative comes out. When these companies have a great product or idea, well-known corporations notice and usually scoop them up.
If we look at innovation such as Siri, TouchID, FaceID, Multi-Touch, etc other companies, start-ups, university research, etc proved what thinking outside the box technology was capable. Apple used to be that type of company, however like everything large corporation the focus on innovation is minimal and the goal is to seek out other companies to acquire or inspire while keeping the business growing, profitable and continuing development on said technology. Consider this for thought SideCar came after DuetDisplay which was created by ex-Apple engineers. Nest is another example. The biggest hurdle I see at present for AW is its dependancy on an iPhone, it really needs to completely independent to obtain its potential. Bragi was the first to my knowledge that pushed the envelope for wearable audio with a whole lot more, unfortunately the original product did not survive presently however the technology is available for licensing.
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I loved my 1st gen AirPods but I gave them to my wife when I bought a pair of PowerBeats Pro headphones. Then I made the mistake of letting her try my PowerBeats Pro... I just ordered her a pair of them from Kohl's for $199 and I got $60 of free in-store credit with the purchase (best Black Friday deal I could find). The AirPod Pros look amazing but with our primary usage being for exercise, the PowerBeats Pro were the best option for us.
I assume you don’t own some.
I can assure you. If I get a few years out of mine I’ll be happy. The ease of use is unparalleled.
Yep, had I not bought PBP’s in July I would own these.
If/when they offer black ones they will be printing money.
Ouch. You needing some skin grafts after the flaming you've had today for that one?
We'll never find out but it would be wonderful to watch how many receivers of your gift have either already bought AirPods or punt yours on EBay and upgrade. Yes, I said "upgrade".
I beg to disagree.
This isn’t a case like Facebook acquiring WhatsApp or instagram, where they were blatantly removing a competitor from the market. Apple isn’t scooping up massive companies like Netflix or Tesla for their user base or generating additional revenue streams. They are simply shopping for technology that enables the desired user experience in their products. I acknowledge that acquiring these companies means that the competition is unable to benefit from them, but when you are operating on the scale that Apple does, it makes sense to secure your supply chain and hedge your bets.
Stuff like Siri and Face ID are features, not products. Apple’s innovation here is akin to the role played by a chef. Their value-add comes from tossing all these disparate pieces of technology into a pot and being able to spit out a product that offers a great user experience. Not from developing them from scratch.
Likewise, should Apple not have released a feature like sidecar just because Duet already existed? And duet isn’t even the first of its kind - I was using apps like airdisplay long before duet hit the market. By this logic, Apple can’t release any new features ever, because they will likely already have been done by someone else already.
This sort of thing just seems inevitable when you are operating at the scale at Apple does.
They never said they are mediocre and it was only about audio quality. It's the whole experience which matters. Most won't hear the difference or care.
Also if you are in perfect quiet place buds might sound better? But they don't have noise cancellation so overall if audio is your thing you get lot better experience from AirPods Pro than from Samsung buds
Maybe LA got an extra large allotment as they know demand will be good and keep accelerating closer to Christmas. That and the port of LA is where most AirPods of both types come in so LA gets first crack at resupply?
Have seen quite a few of both in my travels in LA and Orange County.
Who do you want to please? Consumer Reports, or people getting presents?
Anyway, that kind of present you don't just buy for someone. You buy what they ask for, or you get a gift receipt so they can exchange for cash.
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I've seen one review that compared them with Sony WTF 2000 XL pods (not the exact name, but something that makes you think WTF are you doing with your stupid names) by some audiophile guy, and while the AirPod's sound quality was not audiophile quality, it was good enough, _almost_ as good as the Sonys, but with much higher convenience (apparently the Sony ones came with atrocious software for your iPhone), and all in all recommended.
But if we listen to the Apple haters, people buy AirPods only because they are all sheeple that want to show that they can afford Apple stuff. And there are $99 fakes around that make you look like you are wearing AirPods if you are one of those sheeple.
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Which we tell all the Android users and before that all the PC users.
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Not on the Jubilee line just after West Ham going into London, and not on some parts of Central. I'll believe you that they make the noise more bearable, but there are some parts that are like standing near a jet engine. District / Circle line they should be absolutely fine.
The first and second gen AirPods were good but not great. I would say the AirPods Pro finally reaches that bar of quality. The slightly deeper bass makes them good enough for me. ANC is also pretty darn good for Apple's first attempt.
"Highly reputable" huh.... when it comes to audio reviews, CR is a joke among the cognoscenti.
I would chalk this up to coincidence. In several weeks I haven’t had a single connection hiccup with mine and they are worn basically 8-5.
Kia Stinger retails for almost 50,000$ and it’s well worth it as one of the best sport cars on the market while In My Opinion the Lexus lineup currently has the most hideous grills after Toyotas. Point is, 169$ is not Lexus money, it’s one of the cheapest wireless headphones in the market and the W1 chipset is simply the best feature and the Sony ones with stupid name for instance is way more expensive with no W1 chipset but it’s no Apple which is exactly why no one talks about the price.
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Why?
AirPods are hardly luxury.
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I'm sure the people you're giving them to will enjoy having some ugly earrings.
In all honesty, though, Samsung's alternative may be cheaper, but with Apple it's all about the experience. The one-tap setup that lets you use them with all your Apple devices, the ANC and Transparency modes, the Hey Siri integration, the bean forming mics, etc. It's just feels more tightly integrated and thoughtfully designed. Most of Samsung's "awesome, groundbreaking" features I've found to be just gimmicks (Galaxy Fold, anyone???) I once heard an AT&T employee say it well: "Samsung is always looking to do the latest and greatest. Apple doesn't do the flashy new stuff quite as quickly, but when they do, they do it better." Couldn't have said it better myself.
As opposed to ugly toothbrushes sticking out of your ear?
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Prove that they're not.
No, the point (on which we agree, since you didn’t notice) is that $250 (this about the AirPod Pros) is still a very reasonable price for what you get.
Worth it? Seems like a fine car. Good value if it proves reliable. And good on you for finding the price exception. Nonetheless, most of the Lexus lineup is more expensive than that most expensive Kia. Some are twice as expensive. I don’t love the grille either, but that doesn’t change the price. And again, the point is that I chose Lexus vs Kia and not Bugatti vs Kia because in all fairness we’re talking about AirPod Pros and not Ultimate Ears Reference Monitors for $2000/pair.
Heh...
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The point, which you may not have grasped, is that Galaxy buds are hardly AirPod Pros, so no one should expect that APP’s be priced like a lesser product.
The other point, on which we obviously agree, that $250 is a very reasonable price.
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https://www.macrumors.com/2019/10/04/iphone-11-pro-max-tops-consumer-reports-rankings/
https://www.macrumors.com/2018/02/28/consumer-reports-iphone-x-best-camera/
you can see the criticism subsides in these types of threads. People love/hate it when Apple makes it to the top of a list regardless of the credibility
Wonder how many people had to return them, like I did. Soooo disappointed. Would not create a good seal in my ear(which is needed for them to work properly). Tried all 3 tips in every position possible, still no luck. After returning them, I am now seeing quite a few people are returning them for this same reason. Without a good seal, they are just another pair of their standard AirPods. So sad...😣😢
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Did you even read my comment? I literally said I have one and LOVE it. I don’t care if people use APP or not. It doesn’t change how much I love mine nor does it affect my satisfaction. I was merely responding to a comment that says they see it everywhere in DC. That’s all.Correct, Apple has been moving towards and introducing more wearables over the years, however your "unbeatable" statement is kinda bold. Do you not like competition, even if one is an Apple fan competition is good for the customer.
I like my APP fwiw.
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I have always had a problem with Apple's earphones may it be wired or wireless. The problem I always have with them is that it never stayed in my ears. That is why I prefer in-ear and since Apple discontinued its in-ear wired options years ago, the APP was a welcoming return. So many unused Apple wired earphones over the years.
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Out of curiosity, it seems like you are holding a grudge with CR over the long discontinued iPhone 4 issue as you mentioned. Seriously if someone looks at CR for purchasing guidance so let it be, if you don't like it that is fine too. I prefer reading as many as I can and make an informed decision. I can discern hyperbole reviews from any media source. Someone would think that CR made it personal for you. All media outlets get somethings wrong, no need to put them down. Seriously enjoy life and read the review outlets that appeal to you even if it is not CR.
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Well it has only been released for more or less a month now, give it some time. I would not call it the greatest thing since sliced bread, there are relatively on the steep end for many on a budget.
I do like my APP, but just because I don't see others wearing them does not have to justify my satisfaction of use. Why do you care what other people prefer or use, is your public life a runway or stage. Sheesh.