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All 2017 iPhone Models Said to Include Standard 5W USB-A Adapter, With Wireless Charger Sold Separately

Chupa Chupa said:
I could use the $10 on something worthwhile rather than stuff worthless-to-me accessories in my drawer.
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...since Apple wants $20 for a spare charger and $20 for a spare cable, you could probably offload them onto someone for $10. Then, its useful to have more than one charger, and some of my older ones are too low power for new devices. Or maybe you want to re-sell your old phone along with its original accessories...

Anyway, I wasn't pooh-poohing your idea in principle - I just think that you'd be lucky to see even a $10 price cut.
 
This is difficult to believe. Touch ID has allowed me to unlock my phone before I even see the screen. If this is true, then the iPhone unlocking experience will delay interacting with the phone. This move does not streamline accessing a secure phone. :(
 
winglet69 said:
Precisely. Everyone fretting over whether a wireless charger will be included or not, but no one seems to explain exactly why it's an improvement in the first place. I travel for a living - does wireless charging reduce what I have to carry to charge my phone? From the looks of that huge bean-bag thingy, I think not.

But then, I'm old-school, I still turn on lights by walking over to the switch and flipping it. *gasp* So I can probably survive a little longer with the onerous task of plugging in a cable. It's a chore, but I will persevere.
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The biggest “benefit” is that you can just throw your phone on the charger rather than having to plug in your phone. I can see the convenience of it, but it’s not something I need in my life.
 
theluggage said:
Yes, but they'd also have to take off their ski mask and goggles to use face recognition.

What about superheroes? Most of them wear masks and gloves. I mean, Superman would be OK if the face recognition could cope with glasses (anyway, he doesn't seem to think leaving Clark Kent's fingerprints everywhere is a problem), but Spiderman, Batman, DeadPool and Iron Man are completely stymied - unless they want any joker with a Halloween mask to be able to steal their identity. Unrealistic? I don't think so - I mean, do Apple really want to see Peter Parker toting a Samsung S9 (with spandex-penetrating ultrasonic face recognition) in the next Spiderman movie?:)
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Maybe as a conversation point, but really why would any of those superheroes need a primitive smartphone? That would be so disappointing. Like if James Bond's next car was a Corolla S Plus. Heh.
 
winglet69 said:
Precisely. Everyone fretting over whether a wireless charger will be included or not, but no one seems to explain exactly why it's an improvement in the first place.
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Well, the USB/Lightning/charge and headphone ports on a mobile device are major points of mechanical failure, as well as limiting water resistance. In a perfect world, it would be good to eliminate them. The problem is, until some golden day when every hotel, every train and plane seat has a standard charging pad, when traveling it means that you have to carry the same power adapter as before plus the charging pad.

This is where some "think different" could come in: how about a 2-part phone: a slim, no-ports phone with a 10-12h battery life and a "battery case" with a larger, 48h battery and regular charging port, that wirelessly charged the phone when it was in the case? Maybe it could also squeeze in a Bluetooth receiver and headphone jack?

Unfortunately, Apple probably discredited the "battery case" idea with the "what were they thinking?" ugly monstrosity (at least, by Apple design standards) they excreted a couple of years ago. They don't have to be that horrible.
 
citysnaps said:
I certainly won't be. Unless it's wireless charging at a distance (and that's not yet ready for prime time), I see little benefit over plugging a cable in.
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Apple has clearly said they won't consider anything short of real wireless charging. Touch-based like we have in the Apple Watch isn't an option.
 
theluggage said:
Well, the USB/Lightning/charge and headphone ports on a mobile device are major points of mechanical failure, as well as limiting water resistance. In a perfect world, it would be good to eliminate them. The problem is, until some golden day when every hotel, every train and plane seat has a standard charging pad, when traveling it means that you have to carry the same power adapter as before plus the charging pad.

This is where some "think different" could come in: how about a 2-part phone: a slim, no-ports phone with a 10-12h battery life and a "battery case" with a larger, 48h battery and regular charging port, that wirelessly charged the phone when it was in the case? Maybe it could also squeeze in a Bluetooth receiver and headphone jack?

Unfortunately, Apple probably discredited the "battery case" idea with the "what were they thinking?" ugly monstrosity (at least, by Apple design standards) they excreted a couple of years ago. They don't have to be that horrible.
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I really like what Motorola(Lenovo?) did with the Z and Z2 phones. They are super slim, but it’s easy to just add a battery case or any other accessory.
 
theluggage said:
Anyway, I wasn't pooh-poohing your idea in principle - I just think that you'd be lucky to see even a $10 price cut.
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Well, of course, it's Apple. I mean when we CTO a machine and upgrade, say, the RAM from 8GB to 16GB, does Apple give us any credit for the unused 8GB, nope. They charge full boat and then some for that 16GB and pocket the profit from the unused, but paid for, 8GB too. So sure, the idea was just my fantasy. But a man has to have dreams, right. Maybe mine are a bit misplaced. :)
 
BvizioN said:
Not for me. And please don't compare new tech with an ancient tech. One does have a future, the other one will be dead soon.
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That's ignoring my point then.

I was comparing Apple being short sighted in thinking that a piece tech wouldn't have a use when it later turned out it did.

That 'soon to be dead' tech could still be in use for some time, one way or another.

Plus Apple complaining about 'ancient tech' is a bit hypocritical when they still want to keep using USB-A and lightning (personally, I think they removed the jack as an excuse to make money, not because it was old (otherwise allot of things would be dead by now)).
 
theluggage said:
Well, the USB/Lightning/charge and headphone ports on a mobile device are major points of mechanical failure, as well as limiting water resistance. In a perfect world, it would be good to eliminate them. The problem is, until some golden day when every hotel, every train and plane seat has a standard charging pad, when traveling it means that you have to carry the same power adapter as before plus the charging pad.

This is where some "think different" could come in: how about a 2-part phone: a slim, no-ports phone with a 10-12h battery life and a "battery case" with a larger, 48h battery and regular charging port, that wirelessly charged the phone when it was in the case? Maybe it could also squeeze in a Bluetooth receiver and headphone jack?

Unfortunately, Apple probably discredited the "battery case" idea with the "what were they thinking?" ugly monstrosity (at least, by Apple design standards) they excreted a couple of years ago. They don't have to be that horrible.
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like one of these? https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Electron...Wireless-Charging-Plate-Compatible/B00GZL1TYY

basically a portable battery pack but also a Qi charger. So just put it next to your phone in your bag and it'll charge it up. And when you plug it in to charge back up, you can also charge your phone while doing so.

Actually a Qi charger based battery pack would be pretty great - when I'm out and about but need a top-up, having a battery pack and cable is pretty annoying.
 
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Gary Z said:
My point exactly. Are we to believe that we'll be forced to turn on a light or use flash in order to open the phone in a dark area? They must be kidding or Apple will have gone totally wacko!
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Quick question: Are you at all following modern tech? Facial recognition works perfectly in the dark. All you need is IR. Windows has had it for some time now with their Windows Hello feature. My desktop PC has this feature and many windows laptops do as well.
 
The Reasonable One said:
Quick question: Are you at all following modern tech? Facial recognition works perfectly in the dark. All you need is IR. Windows has had it for some time now with their Windows Hello feature. My desktop PC has this feature and many windows laptops do as well.
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windows hello on surface pro 4 has been pretty bad for me until a recent update. You had to be right in front of the screen so when using it as a tablet on your lap you'd have to move it to log in. Recently its much better and handles off-axis use well, but it still has limitations based on field of view

but yes, its IR based and has a depth camera so can work in low light and cant' be fooled by a photo of someone's face.
 
Peer Bentzen said:
I often look at the phone to see if there are any new messages etc. In that situation I don’t want to unlock it, just look. In fact I’m being quite careful not to unlock it by not touching the fingerprint reader.
If with a face scanner the phone will unlock every time you look at it, I’d consider that a big step backwards.
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You will first have to press the virtual home button to leave the lock screen and go to the home screen. So picking up your iPhone will quickly unlock it when it recognises your face, but it would be still showing your lock screen. It's the same as when you now pick up your iPhone and rest your finger on the home button and not click it.
 
deuxani said:
You will first have to press the virtual home button to leave the lock screen and go to the home screen. So picking up your iPhone will quickly unlock it when it recognises your face, but it would be still showing your lock screen. It's the same as when you now pick up your iPhone and rest your finger on the home button and not click it.
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I don’t click and it opens. Find it easier and fast.
Anyone who thinks Apple will ditch Touch id on the iPhone (2017) is imo wrong. It’s to much implented into iOS. Those analist just make predictions like the weatherman.
 
theluggage said:
ISTR Bond remote-controlling his (BMW? Audi?) using a Nokia.
...and one of Roger Moore's best car chases was in a Citroen 2CV!
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But that was just a get-a-way-alive car. Good scene, but not Bond's actual car. Let's go to the video tape:

 
AZ63 said:
This is difficult to believe. Touch ID has allowed me to unlock my phone before I even see the screen. If this is true, then the iPhone unlocking experience will delay interacting with the phone. This move does not streamline accessing a secure phone. :(
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Everyone has said they do not want rear Touch ID and if it can't go under the screen I guess this is about all they can do. I don't mind the rear fingerprint sensor on my S8+ and use the iris scanner as well. I guess Apple must feel having more then one way to unlock the phone other then the passcode might be confusing to some people.
 
freediverx said:
Yeah that's a ridiculous idea. AirPods sell for $150 and Apple can't keep them in stock. Why would they include them with an iPhone, artificially inflating its retail price, which would hurt sales? ...Especially for people like me who already own AirPods.
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Well, on one hand, Apple could market face ID as being even more secure that TouchID. The only catch, though, is that they'd probably need some time to convince banks it's safe, and during that gap all those customers might not be able to use it. The only other scenario I can imagine is if Apple already got bank approvals for face ID + Apple Pay, but that's highly unlikely while maintaining confidentiality.
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Yes exactly. Why would Apple ruin all of the time and effort they have made signing up with worldwide banks to then abolish Touch ID Apple Pay?

This Ming is an idiot.
 
Hopefully they add a feature that if your Apple Watch is close to your phone. It will unlock the phone automatically. Similar to the way it does with macs.
 
anonymous13579 said:
That's weird tho because just a while ago we heard that the iPhone 8 would have fast charging and come with a USB-C adapter for fast charging
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Exactly, also how would facial recognition work in the dark?? If that was the only way, other than a password.
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I read somewhere that new facial recognition tech works in almost complete darkness.
 
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