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According to 9to5Mac he's got a 51/49% right/wrong. I wouldn’t call that a near perfect record.

He's far more accurate than that. Scorecards that put him that low usually include Apple earnings and sales estimates, which are hard to predict for anyone. Kuo's specialty is forecasting upcoming products and features, particularly in the mobile lineup.
 
He's far more accurate than that. Scorecards that put him that low usually include Apple earnings and sales estimates, which are hard to predict for anyone. Kuo's specialty is forecasting upcoming products and features, particularly in the mobile lineup.

What I like about Kuo, is he literally is non-existent and doesn't have to make himself the focus over his predictions like some of these bloggers do. He lives a very private life without attempting to put the media as his main focus. I respect that.
 
What I like about Kuo, is he literally is non-existent and doesn't have to make himself the focus over his predictions like some of these bloggers do. He lives a very private life without attempting to put the media as his main focus. I respect that.

I agree with that. I have a feeling that same trait lends Kuo to be a reliable handler of information. His ability to keep long term relationships with his sources suggests he's very disciplined. I imagine big news and media organizations like Bloomberg have tried to recruit him repeatedly. But Kuo's dedication to KGI for the past five years says something about loyalty too.
 
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Gold, silver and black... sounds familiar

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Will blue and light purple come to the 8s? Yes Apple was first with these colors, but the glass back and these colors is familiar with the S8

Apple have made iPhone with glass back (and front) when Samsung was still doing trashy plastic phones. And have used these colors long before.... So nothing new here.
And before you accuse me of being Fanboy, I am using galaxy 8 since it was released.
 
If Apple keeps making iPhones that are designed as fragile pieces of art instead of being functional, then they might as well make them all in one color. The reason being that most people end up putting them in a protective case. If Apple really put their design abilities to work, they could make something that is colorful, and doesn't shatter into a million pieces if you drop it, and isn't too slippery to hold onto. It can be done, they just don't want to do it.
 
If Apple keeps making iPhones that are designed as fragile pieces of art instead of being functional, then they might as well make them all in one color. The reason being that most people end up putting them in a protective case. If Apple really put their design abilities to work, they could make something that is colorful, and doesn't shatter into a million pieces if you drop it, and isn't too slippery to hold onto. It can be done, they just don't want to do it.

Whatever colour you get, I'm betting you have a case for it anyway - you MUST have a case for it in my opinion - it is so slippery it will fly away every time you grab it. At least for my dry fingers. I have no idea why Apple makes these phones so darn slippery to hold.
 
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I feel like they should have done white instead of silver and that gold is hideous, hopefully that is not the final version. I will buy the black anyway so doesn't really matter.
 
The amount of iPhone 8's at launch won't be as bad as previous generations as the price will turn a lot of people off. It will balance out if the tight asses get the 7S instead.
 
Great choice, other colors are getting old and booring. The new one looks nice. [Copper Gold]

Edit :- i wish apple launch this color, "Ceramic White" like Apple watch.

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I would actually love a glossy white iPhone to be introduced to the lineup at some point. Everything is now black, grey, gold, copper or pink (rose gold). It has that retro white iBook feel to it.

I'm still a bit on the fence about the copper option, although if done right it can be quite nice looking. Suunto has a special copper edition of their Spartan Wrist HR watch that looks really nice with the black wrist strap and casing. So if Apple is doing the copper edition with black framing then it might looks good. I'd have to see it live first though. Apple products always look way nicer in real life than when just looking at stills.
 
Apple lost its color concept over the whole product line looong time ago :eek:
 
What metric do you use to justify colors that are old and boring? It's a color on an iPhone, not a car or house. I understand that Apple refreshes their color lineup typically on an annual basis, but what defines a color getting old and boring? It Seems all their iPhone colors are sold or used one way the other based on what someone appreciates.

This though. It applies to everything really. Like look at cars. There's always going to be those "in fashion this year" color options, some have more than others, but then there's going to be the "boring" colors because those options are the ones most people go for which is usually black/white/grey/... basic colors. And in the case of Apple it's usually the light metallic grey that we're used to associate with Apple products.

I'm not at all surprised they're keeping the lighter grey because it's the same color most people have on their Macbooks, iMacs, iPads etc. And black seems to be a really popular color always so they go with that.

I've noticed that copper is getting to be a really popular (metallic) color so I'm not surprised Apple might venture into trying that as a new one. They need one color that sets it apart from the older models so when people show it off everyone will know it's THIS YEAR's model and not the previous year's I guess. Same was with the black glossy/matte ones last year that set it apart from the iPhone 6. So if this is true then the copper one is going to be the one that screams iPhone 8.
 
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good. it was getting out of hand with the amount of colours. i'm happy with the option of just black + white.

off topic: i just can't get used to how ugly that camera is. i won't be buying an iphone if it looks like that.
 
Am I the only one loosing hope and interest for iPhone? I was expecting so much of the new iPhone and well... no fingerprint sensor, not a lot of colors, price way up, no fast chqrging without adding more money,... Apple is becoming as every other company: a cash machine with no care for customers anymore. That's how I feel at least since last mbp, iphone7,... At least I am excited about the homePod, which is just a copy of the competition but whatever, it'll be great. Maybe.
 
What are you smoking that I'm not?
"Samsung, same price as Apple"?

Samsung Galaxy S8 costs €630 in EU, while the standard iPhone 7 32GB costs €769.

Samsung offers better battery life, IP68, better cameras, facial recognition, iris scanner, larger screen, OLED, VR, QI-charging, Fast charging (included in the box), includes €100 AKG earbuds, 3.5mm headphone jack, USB-C port and lower price.

Btw, I travel a lot and most countries I visit don't even have Apple stores, which makes international warranty utterly useless!
However, I can agree with you on IOS, but that doesn't justify the high price of the iPhones which are always behind the cheaper competitor. No wonder Apple is loosing customers in China, because companies like Oppo, Huawei or Xiaomo are offering better phone with a significantly lower price!
In the markets where I am, Samsung prices is not much different that iPhones. Arguing that it's "cheaper" is moot since one would already be paying close to $1000.

The one that is bleeding in China is Samsung. Why pay $$$ for Samsung when a Xiaomi with same/better spec is cheaper and run the exact same apps (unless you're a fan of bixby). Apple has its own group of users.

And like I said, to each his own.
 
If Apple keeps making iPhones that are designed as fragile pieces of art instead of being functional, then they might as well make them all in one color. The reason being that most people end up putting them in a protective case. If Apple really put their design abilities to work, they could make something that is colorful, and doesn't shatter into a million pieces if you drop it, and isn't too slippery to hold onto. It can be done, they just don't want to do it.

Don't drop it then.
 
"Copper gold" is rose gold... Rose gold isn't pink, so I'd assume they are just making it true rose gold coloured.
 
Between the 3 colors I would want black but I have heard enough about how it shows every scratch that I wouldn't select that color. The Copper color looks off to me, as I am more of a basic color person. If it ain't a color in a crayon 32 pack then it isn't really a color. So IF I get a phone this year I guess it'll be silver. But that's an IF.
 
I'm amazed why nobody thinks:

1. The vertical stacked camera module looks ugly and out of place People said the same about the dual camera last year, and the camera bulge 2 years before that.
2. The black module and the silver rim around it on the non-black colors looks uglier and even more out of place I'm going to wait for the final Apple unveil before judging color schemes. Last year, we thought we were getting a midnight blue, that turned out to be a new black finish
3. This is not really a new design/form factor - at least externally, it's the exact same as the iPhone 6 Porsche would like to have a word with you. Change for the sake of change isn't the best design language policy. There are only so many things you can do with a rectangle with rounded corners.
4. The top notch is anything but 'top notch' - no pun intended I think everyone is curious how Apple will implement the top notch, but we haven't seen an official confirmed part leak at this time, so it's hard to judge.

When Steve Jobs rejoined, he focused on SKU rationalization - this year, we will officially have an iPhone SE, iPhone 6 (for sale in some countries), iPhone 7S, iPhone 7S Plus, and iPhone 8 - well done.
 
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