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I was one of "those guys" making light of the constrained supply rumours this year.
I'll be getting my iPhone 7+ 128 JB between October 5th and 12th.

This crow tastes DELICIOUS.
 
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He is getting his info from the Keynote Apple did. They showed a chart of them being the #2 watch maker in the world by revenue.

I didn't catch the first part of the event but that doesn't mesh with revenue watch companies are reporting because Rolex isn't #1 -- Swatch Group is. Rolex is #2 -- and that is by half of Swatch's revenue, so not even close.
 
I think the solution to all of this is just for Apple to start building units way earlier than they do now. They want to almost have TOO MUCH stock, which wouldn't be a problem because they know they'd sell the units easily anyway. Apple no longer rely on the 'iPhone Sold Out In 2 Seconds' headlines that used to be prevalent. I think they'd rather be able to release very, very high sales figures AND say that EVERYONE got their device on launch day with plenty of stock to spare. That sounds like a well prepared company.

The only issue I can see with this is iOS which, if you started building months in advance, would be nowhere near completion. But what if they write into iOS that the first thing it does after being switched on is look for an OTA update? Then you could start building the devices with an iOS that's months old in the knowledge that by the time the customer gets it, the new iOS will be out.

What I'm saying is that Apple need to start building units very early indeed. Almost around WWDC is when they'd want to start building for a September release. Hell even Spring might be a good time. Surely the design is locked down long, long before release.

While I understand you intentions its not that easy for a number of reasons, I'll list a few.

First off, the want to make sure the phone has the latest technology, so if they start building it too early, a competitor may come out with a better product before the iPhone is released. If that happens, the phone is out of date before it even goes on sale. Not good.

Second is the complexity of the supply chain and trying to keep things a secret. If they built these too early, leaks would be everywhere, and the "surprise" of the keynote would be lost.

Lastly, requiring a customer to update the phone to the latest OS right after they take it out of the box flat out sucks. As someone who still is a "gamer", nothing ticks me off more than getting a brand new game on the day its released only to have to wait for a massive update when you get home.

Just my thoughts.
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We shall find out the reasons for the change at the quarterly calls.

Exactly... once the supply catches up, and Apple has something to brag about.
 
Why do people upgrade every version? I just don't get it. Like a good Zoshirushi rice cooker, as long as it performs its function well there is no need for a new one unless the old model poops out or there is an evolution of the product, like having a novel way of preparing quinoa.

Because they can. I always upgraded every two years during the subsidy era, why not. If I was on a lease program as most of the U.S. plans are these days then it only makes sense to upgrade at first opportunity -- you are paying the fee whether you upgrade or don't so wny not?
 
We shall find out the reasons for the change at the quarterly calls.

I dunno. Maybe they're hiding that sales are weaker but I really don't think that's it. Tim Cook said weekend sales just weren't accurate or representative of sales or general demand.
 
Which is exactly what's going to happen to the iPhone 7, anyway - 10.0.1

What is the update for? Does it change the functionality in any way or is it just a small bug fix?

My point is that consumers would be mad if you ship them a phone then have to wait while them and millions of others are trying to download a 2gb update in order to get the functionality demo'ed at the keynote.
 
While I understand you intentions its not that easy for a number of reasons, I'll list a few.

First off, the want to make sure the phone has the latest technology, so if they start building it too early, a competitor may come out with a better product before the iPhone is released. If that happens, the phone is out of date before it even goes on sale. Not good.

Second is the complexity of the supply chain and trying to keep things a secret. If they built these too early, leaks would be everywhere, and the "surprise" of the keynote would be lost.

Lastly, requiring a customer to update the phone to the latest OS right after they take it out of the box flat out sucks. As someone who still is a "gamer", nothing ticks me off more than getting a brand new game on the day its released only to have to wait for a massive update when you get home.

Just my thoughts.
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Exactly... once the supply catches up, and Apple has something to brag about.
I dunno. Maybe they're hiding that sales are weaker but I really don't think that's it. Tim Cook said weekend sales just weren't accurate or representative of sales or general demand.
Weekend sales are indicative of exactly that, weekend sales. They might not be predicator of sales over the lifetime of the device, but weekend sales are interesting nonetheless.
My view is Apple has little confidence in iPhone sales figures which is why they no longer release them.
 
I just visited an Apple Store King of Prussia Pennsylvania he said they're not getting any 7 plus models in your only hope is in case if somebody cancels a reservation but they're not getting any 7 plus models in at all of any kind
 
Weekend sales are indicative of exactly that, weekend sales. They might not be predicator of sales over the lifetime of the device, but weekend sales are interesting nonetheless.
My view is Apple has little confidence in iPhone sales figures which is why they no longer release them.

Any particular reason why you quoted my post that has nothing to do with sales figures?
 
Interesting that it is the Plus that sold out. I wonder if this means people are more excited about the dual camera than Apple predicted. Alternatively, it could indicate that the dual camera part is the cause of the holdup.
 
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I went an the apple store in Fort Lauderdale Galleria mall and they came out to the people making the line and told us that they only have limited iphone 7 stock NO Iphone 7 Plus or JB iphone 7.
 
Well considering this is the 11th iPhone Apple has made and that the company is run by a supply chain guru this lack of stock of all plus models and jet black models seems to me like poor planing.

It should be noted that Cook hasn't been in charge of the supply chain since before he became CEO.

His old position was taken over by Jeff Williams in 2010.
http://www.apple.com/pr/bios/jeff-williams.html

I think Cook might be an example of the Peter Principle in action. If so, they should've left him as the supply chain guru. ;)
 
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If you don't have enough product made, you don't launch!

"If you don't have enough product made, you don't launch" - said no company ever.

This isn't just an Apple problem, almost every industry has this issue. Have you ever wanted to buy a shirt but the store didn't have your size? How about Tesla taking pre-orders for the car they just rolled out, some people won't have theirs until many months after the launch. Have you ever gone shopping for a car, and they didn't have the model you wanted in the right color with all the right features?
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It relates to the previous comments.

No, it relates only to the comment I replied to about why they don't build things earlier... nice try.
 
If they let me get a reservation for an iPhone 7 Plus 32GB in Black at my local store this weekend, then I'll happily add to their sales! No luck for launch day but I'm hoping the stores get refreshed stock on Saturday and Sunday.
 
Weekend sales are indicative of exactly that, weekend sales. They might not be predicator of sales over the lifetime of the device, but weekend sales are interesting nonetheless.
My view is Apple has little confidence in iPhone sales figures which is why they no longer release them.

My view is that Apple has/had issues in the supply chain, causing their to be less supply, which would lead to lower sales.

But no one would care WHY sales were down, only that they were.... if they released the numbers.
 
While I understand you intentions its not that easy for a number of reasons, I'll list a few.

First off, the want to make sure the phone has the latest technology, so if they start building it too early, a competitor may come out with a better product before the iPhone is released. If that happens, the phone is out of date before it even goes on sale. Not good.

Second is the complexity of the supply chain and trying to keep things a secret. If they built these too early, leaks would be everywhere, and the "surprise" of the keynote would be lost.

Lastly, requiring a customer to update the phone to the latest OS right after they take it out of the box flat out sucks. As someone who still is a "gamer", nothing ticks me off more than getting a brand new game on the day its released only to have to wait for a massive update when you get home.

Just my thoughts.
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Exactly... once the supply catches up, and Apple has something to brag about.


You are correct in most of what you said. The other big reason is, we don't know exactly when Apple nails down their final design. I am guessing probably around May-June with typical production ramping up in July-Sept.

To the person who said that TOO much stock is good, that is never the case. Yes, it is likely that it will be sold, but it is also playing a dangerous game. It is also possible and much more likely that Apple is at pretty much capacity for their production time.

As I have mentioned before, the logistical nightmare that is a launch like this is enormous. People do not realize how much goes on in the background. I know Cook is a operations guy, but that does not mean there are not hiccups. Getting 15-20 Million (guess) phones to customers all over the world, and providing stock in stores to others is an incredible feat.

TLDR: It is really hard to do what Apple does on launch day, and we don't know their inner workings.
 
"If you don't have enough product made, you don't launch" - said no company ever.

This isn't just an Apple problem, almost every industry has this issue. Have you ever wanted to buy a shirt but the store didn't have your size? How about Tesla taking pre-orders for the car they just rolled out, some people won't have theirs until many months after the launch. Have you ever gone shopping for a car, and they didn't have the model you wanted in the right color with all the right features?
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No, it relates only to the comment I replied to about why they don't build things earlier... nice try.
What are you even talking about?
 
:apple: knew exactly what they are doing here.

9 years in the game and still don't know that people would be queuing up to get the phone.

I am just annoyed because I do not know if i will even be able to reserve a Plus model on the 17th i really hope i am able to so that i can start the AUP as soon as i possibly can.

So frustrating to know that ill already be upgrading late. But oh well. First world problems.

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Good news for online resellers.

I remember 11 years ago, so many people lined up for the Xbox 360. It was going for $400 and people were turning around and selling it for $800 on eBay! The shortages were REAL. Then people did it for the PS3 the following year. Most people lining up for a $600 console were saying they weren't keeping it and planning to sell it on eBay. Most never used eBay before!

You want to make some profit on reselling an iPhone, get the jet black 7 Plus even if you don't plan to keep it. Line up now. The jet black iPhone 7 Plus is the HOT DEVICE to get right now and I don't mean that in Note7 terms! High popularity leads to scarcity leads to higher profit margin if you plan to resell.

This is the Xbox 360 high profit resell all over again. Easy $200-$300 profit on this jet black 7 Plus if you're an early bird who can catch the worm...
 
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