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So.... from the sales figures, you will find out two things

1. Apple has sold equal or greater units compared to previous years : sold out means iPhone 7 is a success

2. Apple has sold less than last years units : sold out means , apple messed up supply , sucess iPhone 7 is unknown .

Now in both scenarios , the difference of units sold compared to last year will tell is how successful the iPhone 7 or how much supply was constrained.

If it's scenario 2 , we cannot work out the success of iPhone 7 cause apple under supplied compared to previous year. Under scenario 1, I am taking more units sold to previous year to be a success criteria, both years the phone sold out

Just trying to work out what sold out means, using simple analysis based on this years and last years figures.

I don't understand your logic. Do you understand what supply constrains mean? The sales numbers are useless statistic if demand outweighs the supply like it does with 7.

P.S. it's a success don't worry.
 
Sprint and AT&T reporting a 300% increase of pre-orders compared to the 6 launch....don't let reality get in the way of your conspiracy Apple has to....sell less iPhones at launch?

Yeah almost all of the carriers are reporting super high demand.

The people suggesting this is deliberate:

A) Have no proof other than their paranoia or, what they consider to be, circumstantial evidence.

B) Have never run a company, or are running one poorly right now.


You don't deliberately throttle your supply on an initial surge just to sandbag. It would give competitors time to react before you filled demand allowing them to cannibalize your sales funnel.
 
I don't understand your logic. Do you understand what supply constrains mean? The sales numbers are useless statistic if demand outweighs the supply like it does with 7.

P.S. it's a success don't worry.

Sales figures give us facts. From there we can make deductions , without them is it's just markerting blah blah.

If you are getting one tomorrow, enjoy!!! Nice phone
 
See, you say this, but it's Apple. They could definitely be prepared and have enough stock if they wanted to. It's all a case of making larger quantities and starting production way earlier than they do.

You must understand the logistics here. Sales are pumped upfront! You can't have factories building up 15m iphones on day 1 and then go "relatively" quiet thereafter. They need to be staggered to a certain extent.

the iphone is the most coveted and demanded consumer product in history. No way to can satisfy all that demand on day 1 (especially when launching simultaneously in 30+ countries, in 2 configs and 5 colours...)
 
I pre-ordered a Jet Black iPhone 7 Plus with my carrier on the day pre-orders went live - I called at 8am on the dot and they told me that I was the first caller of the day, thus first in the queue. He then told me that the delivery date would be October 7th, which makes me feel as though this was planned all along.
 
Sales figures give us facts. From there we can make deductions , without them is it's just markerting blah blah.

If you are getting one tomorrow, enjoy!!! Nice phone

I'm pretty sure the number is ********.
 
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You must understand the logistics here. Sales are pumped upfront! You can't have factories building up 15m iphones on day 1 and then go "relatively" quiet thereafter. They need to be staggered to a certain extent.

the iphone is the most coveted and demanded consumer product in history. No way to can satisfy all that demand on day 1 (especially when launching simultaneously in 30+ countries, in 2 configs and 5 colours...)
2 sizes, 3 storages and 5 colours. thats 30 skus.
 
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I actually can't understand what point your making any more. Your grammar is difficult to follow, sorry.

I don't live my life by what MacRumors users complain about. Online users complain about everything. They complain on most articles.

I also don't think you know what trolling means. I'm having a discussion. You don't agree with me, I don't agree with you.

Here is the deal, I'm happy to debate with you , but, how about we drop the personal insults going forward? Deal? In which case I look forward to it.

And apologies , english is not my first language, which is not helped by the fact that I use An iPad on MR and autocorrect messes up my responces, due to me typing too fast.
 
Every year the same thing. Apple sells out andmpeoole either deduce that the phone is a wild success or that Apple purposely restricted supply to make it seem a wild success.

I have to say it's strange for Apple to not sell any 7 plus models at their brick and mortar store in day one. Hopefully there will be signs in front of the stores early. Still some stubborn folks will wait it out.
 
But without the supply context, the sales numbers are meaningless. They only have relevance if we know that everyone that wanted to buy one actually could.

We are only talking about launch here.

And specifically what sold out means, not what the demand is. We cannot work out demand. We can work out what sold out means.

Specifically did apple supplied less units than the 6S ?......we really have no idea what the demand for this phone is....right now the markerting machine will make us believe it's a huge success cause it's sold out.....creating perceived demand .

If the iPhone 7 sold more units than the 6S for launch, it's a success. Without at least the sales figures, sold out is just a status.
 
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If anybody is reading this message I just called Apple themselves and talked to two different Representatives tech support and as well the sales department she said she has no clue but Apple would have said something not at the last minute she said as far as she knows the phones will be sold tomorrow both models she said whatever you're reading it must be a rumor
 
I personally expected the Jet Black to sell out because it was the color they featured pretty much nonstop during the keynote, but with them doing that you would think Apple would have done a better job prepping for the number of sales that would come for that color. Even with a supposed shorter supply than normal this year, you would think they would have made more of the color they knew was going to be in high demand. Did they learn nothing from the white iPhone 4 fiasco?

This is all planned and on purpose man.
 
Atleast the folks that want the little iPhones will be able to wait in shorter lines. Not surprised the 7+ are in such demand being the first time Apple has made it better then its little brother.
 
Atleast the folks that want the little iPhones will be able to wait in shorter lines. Not surprised the 7+ are in such demand being the first time Apple has made it better then its little brother.
And watches lol. It's all in in for this year. I'm thinking I should just say screw it and wait for my next weeek delivery.
 
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