pogi70071
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S8 has way better features this time comparing side by side. Jumping ship.
All Three 2017 iPhones Said to Feature True Tone Displays
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9.7, the one with true-tone .-)
I was only asking because some have said they have the 12.9 inch iPad had true tone, when it didn't. So I was just using process of elimination to to see what model you have.
In any case, every opinion varies. I have read where many really appreciated Teu-Tone display and it's capabilities. I also think it will be a really nice feature for the iPhone if true.
iReality85
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Different strokes for different folks.
I keep seeing this type of comment, but I don't know why $1000 would be outrageous. I paid $869 for my 128GB 7 Plus. So add $130 on top of that for an iPhone with an OLED edge-to-edge display, True Tone, home button-less front, retina/facial scanning, IP68 rating, A11 chip, better camera- if it's all to be believed.
I could easily see a $1000 price tag.
(Also, it's not like financing options don't exist, and most carriers, at least in the US, allow you to pay it over 24-30 months, in effect being just like the old multi-year contracts. That's $30-40 a month.)
4jasontv
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I could see apple leaking these $1000+ prices so when they announce that its the same price as the 7 people will praise then for it. People have it in their mind it will be more expensive, so I'm sure it will appear like a discount.
Because the OLED model is going to be eye wateringly expensive. No doubt the 7s 7s plus will go for the same price points as the current models.
Huh? You haven't seen the iPhone 8 yet. Although if we're going by rumors, it's clear the flagship iPhone is the one with the "better features" by any objective measure. Ignoring the software advantages, the iPhone 8 is rumored to have an equal display to the admittedly magnificent S8 display (although with True Tone included), but may/will also feature an embedded Touch ID sensor (as opposed to a sensor on the rear beside the camera lens), a dynamic Touch Bar-type row of icons, and 3D-sensing facial recognition for augmented reality (latest rumor suggests both on the front AND rear). This is in addition to features that Samsung still has no answer for, including dual rear cameras and 3D touch. The iPhone is also thinner than the S8 last I checked, if that matters to anyone, and of course will completely dominate the Samsung on the CPU/GPU front.
I'm not saying the S8 doesn't have a single advantage of any kind... perhaps fast charging, if Apple doesn't implement it. However, this also ignores the rumors of Apple's advanced wireless charging solution.
In sum, again, I'm not sure what these way better features are you're speaking of. The S8 is likely to be trounced feature-wise.
I think that is exactly what is going to happen.
I'm curious about this $1000 rumour though, I mean these days the base model of several of their products is scarcely worth having, the 32gb iPhones fall into this category for me. Surely they aren't going to put out a $1000 phone that ships with 32gb and expect people to pay over a thousand to get a decent amount of storage.
I think there's *almost* no chance the "iPhone 8" STARTS at $1,000. It's far more likely it ENDS somewhere around $1,000, with the starting price for the 32GB model (or whatever the smallest storage will be... potentially 128) to be around $800 or $850. Keep in mind the iPhone 7 starts at $650.
When I hear these reports quoting that $1000 price point I took that to mean that was a starting price if not there is nothing particularly remarkable about it. The top configuration of the 7plus is close to $1000.
I humbly disagree. I see no way the tech included in the new phone will command a nearly $400 premium over the tech in last year's iPhone 7. Apple would have to be using ceramic as a body material or something.
It's far more likely this price point was a planned leak to mislead the public and then "overwhelm" (in a good way) when the actual price is eventually revealed.
Tycho24
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What, pray tell, are you comparing it side by side with??
Most of us would equate the 2017 Galaxy w/ the 2017 iPhone, not the 2016 iPhone, soooooo.....
It could easily hit that price point, if its got some kind of 3d sensor, OLED display that is going to make the phone significantly more expensive to manufacture and Apple isn't going to take the hit on their margin. Fast Company were reporting that they expected it to cost "north of $1000", if that is accurate a base price of $1000 certainly isn't out of the question
It would be a $350 dollar premium anyway. The 7 starts at $649 in the US.
Yeah, I'm aware, that's why I said "nearly $400 premium."
Samsung is selling what we may presume to be a very similar display as what we will see in the iPhone 8 for $750. I understand your point about margins, but where's all the extra price coming from? You say 3D sensor(s). Fair enough... but the 3D sensors alone are going to jack the price more than another $100, beyond a starting price of $850? That's incredibly unlikely, particularly when you consider that the price for the legacy components in this phone are coming down, as they do every year.
Where's this additional $250+ component cost coming from? Remember, it's not the screen--we already allocated a whopping $100 extra just for that above.
EDIT: Granted, if this is all as sophisticated as rumored, R&D costs will also be passed on to us, so that is a consideration. But still. And now Fast Company believes "well north" of $1000? That would have to mean at a minimum that each iPhone costs $450 more than the current iPhone 7. What precedent in the smartphone industry supports that kind of one-year increase in cost, unless we're talking about a wildly expensive new case material?
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The Game 161
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Well yeah the 2017 iPhone will have basically the same features as the S8...finally
I'm reposting my post above down below. While the iPhone 8 had to catch up with OLED and smaller bezels, it is set to easily outstrip the S8 in features. What is all this silly talk of "less features" or "caught up with" S8 that people are talking about?
"Although if we're going by rumors, it's clear the flagship iPhone is the one with the "better features" by any objective measure. Ignoring the software advantages, the iPhone 8 is rumored to have an equal display to the admittedly magnificent S8 display (although with True Tone included), but may/will also feature an embedded Touch ID sensor (as opposed to a sensor on the rear beside the camera lens), a dynamic Touch Bar-type row of icons, and 3D-sensing facial recognition for augmented reality (latest rumor suggests both on the front AND rear). This is in addition to features that Samsung still has no answer for, including dual rear cameras and 3D touch. The iPhone is also thinner than the S8 last I checked, if that matters to anyone, and of course will completely dominate the Samsung on the CPU/GPU front.
I'm not saying the S8 doesn't have a single advantage of any kind... perhaps fast charging, if Apple doesn't implement it. However, this also ignores the rumors of Apple's advanced wireless charging solution."
The Game 161
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well rumours have stated the iPhone 8 should have fast charging as well
OLED
Fast charging
glass back
maybe iris scanner
all features i have wanted to see on the new iPhone. getting those features on IOS will make me forget about the likely 5.1 usable screen.
all signs point to apple having the Touch ID under the display beating samsung to the punch.
Cheffy Dave
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NICE!
Ah ok, gotcha! I believe I mistook the tenor/intent of your post; my mistake!
And agreed on fast charging. Less info. on that, but I recall seeing a rumor. Hopefully it happens.
Out of curiosity on the picture you posted, what does a Samsung phone have anything to Do with Tru-Tone display for an iPhone? I see you blurred out "Samsung" on top of the bezel.
The Game 161
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yeah i think thats where the USB type C rumour came from but instead of the cable it will be the power brick that has connection to make it fast charging..fingers crossed
Soccertess
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S8 really set the bar high, so high I don't think Apple under Tim Cook can compete.
We will see. Tim hit the lottery with S7 battery issue. However with the S8 out, one has to wonder if waiting 6 months for a most likely inferior phone will be worth it. I thought the s7 was a much more beautiful phone than the iphone 7, and the S8 pretty much destroys Apple in every aspect. Even if you don't like Samsung, you have to give them credit.
True tone, does it compete with OLED?
We will see. Tim hit the lottery with S7 battery issue. However with the S8 out, one has to wonder if waiting 6 months for a most likely inferior phone will be worth it. I thought the s7 was a much more beautiful phone than the iphone 7, and the S8 pretty much destroys Apple in every aspect. Even if you don't like Samsung, you have to give them credit.
True tone, does it compete with OLED?
Vanilla35
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Because when you're looking at photos you more than likely don't want it to have any sort of color distorted. I do that myself on my personal computer when shopping for clothes. The other 95% of the time when I'm looking at white pages like macrumors.com, I like it on though. Just because there is a small set back doesn't mean the feature should not be taken advantage of at all. Flux was a godsend to me after turning the lights off in the room and staring at a bright white computer screen post 10pm (or even with the lights on). This takes it to the next level, and blends that feature to an even more intimate level throughout the day. If you have used nightshift before, you'll realize that you quickly get used to the changes, and "off" starts to look way too blue in some situations.
The good thing about color temperatures is that it changes throughout the day. Now our phones will be able to do the same; to adapt to the natural change in color temperature around us.
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The best bet is to look at what Apple did with the 6 and 6+ and 7 and 7+. The plus model added dual cameras, which if I remember correctly cost them like $14-16 for the actual component (it was an article on this site). Apple charged $100 more for the plus model. If we consider they will now be adding OLED (there was also an article on that, it was like 40-60% more expensive, if I remember correctly); I would suspect they would make it an additional $100 premium. So that means $200 premium from the normal iPhone, which would mean starting at $850.
They could even go $250-300 though tbh (due to the cost of facial recognition camera, 3D touch-touch ID, wireless charging etc) and that would make it $900-950 starting out, with the storage bump model costing $1050-1100.
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Tycho24
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Damn! The rest of us have to come here and read vague rumors that change daily!!
You already KNOW all about the hyper secret features that every single one of the rest of us is clueless about????!
SWEET!!!
So, dish:
What size will the screen be? Nobody knows here (but YOU!).
Will the whole thing be viewable, or will there be a reserved portion? Nobody knows here (but YOU!).
Will it have a TouchBar style experience? If so, can we interact w/ that without turning on the rest of the screen?
Nobody knows here (but YOU!).
Also PLEASE dish about wireless charging... inductive, or ranged? Nobody knows here (but YOU!).
Omg, I've been SO curious about the rumored dual front cameras... is it true? Is one IR? Do they support any new AR features? As always:Nobody knows here (but YOU!).
Oooooh,last but not least: materials & colors! I've been waiting for someone to tell me if I can expect a white ceramic version. Nobody knows here (but YOU!).
Wait.....
I'm starting to get a little bit confused.
S8 didn't even include "basically the same" dual camera feature that seems to be so popular on the iPhone 7+, much less a dual camera on the front for AR. They just recycled the same one from the S7. Hmmmmm....
They didn't include "basically the same" 3D Touch, like on the 6S/6S+, then improved on the 7/7+.... just a single spot for their virtual home button that doesn't include fingerprint scanning, leading to a separate, awkwardly placed sensor on the back, because they couldn't manage a "basically the same" implementation of the rumored screen integrated TouchID of Apple's 2017 offering.
Your imaginary side-by-side comparison isn't making sense to me...
Besides the edge to edge screen, is there even a single "new" feature or tech on the new S8?
And if there is bleeding edge new tech packed into it & it's as great as you claim, yet- you also claim that Apple's VERY next phone will be "basically the same"....... how does the term "finally" apply?? Like, "Oh, man... you FINALLY decided to come out w/ your September release phone... like you have the last 9 years"; Was there a rumor that they'd maybe release in April this year to avoid your dreaded "finally" comment?