i dont see it.Saying they never will is disingenuous. Once the ability to put the sensor array and camera behind the display is possible (and not janky), it will be done.
11 Pro owner here. Great phone but the notch is its most obvious flaw, and people convincing themselves they “like” such an obvious technical obstacle will continue to be hilarious to me.
Desperately wish I could buy a full-screen phone with TouchID only. FaceID adds absolutely nothing to the experience for me, and is not worth the presence of the notch.
anyone who proclaims they are not buying an iphone because of the notch....Apple doesn't need their business.
As far as the usefulness of face id in a pandemic. I don't where a mask at home, where I shelter in place and work and unlock my phone hundreds of times a day. True, while shopping indoors wearing a mask I enter my pin, but that use case doesn't negate that face id, imo, is better than touch id in general. (Although it would be nice to have both)
This reminds me of a bikini. It's literally awful.OnePlus 7T notch is the most aesthetic notch of all. I find Punch hole even more offensive than notch.
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This reminds me of a bikini. It's literally awful.
This reminds me of a bikini. It's literally awful.
**For the record, this is one opinion vs another.That's pure fanboyism to claim if you dont like it kick bricks we dont need you, not reality.
There is always churn. There is churn in the tv market, car market, phone market etc. The ones who loudly and boldly denounce Apple for the notch, probably aren't real customers anyway (yes this is an opinion). Apple in the 90s is not Apple today, and for all of the sentiment against the notch for the iphone x....we know how that turned out. Constructive criticism is the opposite of what we have seen here sometimes and has little to with which compromise of where the electronics are placed will be best.No company is "too good" for anyone with green cash. Even Apple. Especially in the current economy. They may have that luxury valued at $1 trillion+ but may not always have that luxury, and havent always in history; it was on the verge of bankruptcy in the late 90s. Resting on one's laurels is a poor business strategy usually, or to be open to constructive criticism.
Very well could be a forum thing.Which is where " (Although it would be nice to have both)" would fully agree that they need to start thinking of other plays if this disease is sticking around as masks cancel out face biometric use. A PIN is certainly not better than any fingerprint system out there in use; even an optical scanner.
But for some reason people see any constructive criticism or anything the slightest bit ngative as "you know what f- apple Im moving to Android and coming back here to be a troll and their stuff is a locked down POS" Rather than "I wish it was this way and here's why I think its better" Maybe its just a MR thing.
I have not underestimated how long this thing will last. After 5 months, I've adjusted myself to the use cases with regarding face id, some of which I've attempted to explain above.I think you (and many people) GREATLY underestimate how long this will last. Most people are going to have to go back to work soon here in the coming months and masks are staying with us; years not months. The first vaccines wont be anywhere near 100% effective and may never be; and all signs are now that getting it doesnt mean you cant get it again (like the flu).
Any single solution biometric by your post is a bad long term solution. Touch ID has it's limitations as well and has had those limitations since day one. You pick what works best for you.Face ID or any face unlock, ANY iteration, is going to be a poor single biometric long term solution if so. That is just new reality that maybe wasnt 2017 looing forward back then.
The only disappointing part of this phone is the - if true - really small battery of just 2,227mAh...
here comes the people complaining about how the notch still sucks and they will hold off until apple removes the notch (which they never will)
There are all kinds of reasonable explanations out there. Search YouTube for iphone notch. Why it’s necessary. It gives a distinctive look, among other things. Who wants a forehead like everybody else is capable of cobbling together?Nobody has given a meaningful answer to why we even need the notch. Just give the phone a small forehead, put all relevant sensors in there and keep the screen an unbroken rounded rectangle. It’s got to be easier to manufacture, simplifies the software, and will enable more future sensors in that space.
Never say never. I am sure plenty of people said “theyll never get rid of the headphone jack, home button, etc” but here we are.here comes the people complaining about how the notch still sucks and they will hold off until apple removes the notch (which they never will)
SERIOUSLY? So you really must think this was a cool design feature rather than a necessary evil, and that even when all of the gizmos in the notch are the size of a pin, Apple will still blank out valuable screen real estate just to keep a notch. Why not add two or three more notches for iPhone 13 just to be even more cool? I have read some absurd comments over the years, but this one is right up there with the fairies.
Meanwhile, back to the real world, the second Apple can ditch the notch and have a proper full screen display, it is gone, probably with much fanfare and ceremony from Apple and whooping from the rent-a-fan mob at the Apple Event, if they can visit in person by then. I really do despair at times...
Never say never. I am sure plenty of people said “theyll never get rid of the headphone jack, home button, etc” but here we are.
I personally want the notch gone, and know it will be in the future, maybe not this version though. I’d take a single camera on the back instead of this “triple camera” crap if it meant the notch was gone.
SERIOUSLY? So you really must think this was a cool design feature rather than a necessary evil, and that even when all of the gizmos in the notch are the size of a pin, Apple will still blank out valuable screen real estate just to keep a notch. Why not add two or three more notches for iPhone 13 just to be even more cool? I have read some absurd comments over the years, but this one is right up there with the fairies.
Meanwhile, back to the real world, the second Apple can ditch the notch and have a proper full screen display, it is gone, probably with much fanfare and ceremony from Apple and whooping from the rent-a-fan mob at the Apple Event, if they can visit in person by then. I really do despair at times...
I am certainly not looking to start an argument!I think you (and many people) GREATLY underestimate how long this will last. Most people are going to have to go back to work soon here in the coming months and masks are staying with us; years not months. The first vaccines wont be anywhere near 100% effective and may never be; and all signs are now that getting it doesnt mean you cant get it again (like the flu).
Face ID or any face unlock, ANY iteration, is going to be a poor single biometric long term solution if so. That is just new reality that maybe wasnt 2017 looing forward back then.
here comes the people complaining about how the notch still sucks and they will hold off until apple removes the notch (which they never will)
Of course it will be a game changer, as is every new version of iphone. Apple will never release something they aren't proud of, and what they are proud of are great products that actually change the world, to the contrary of naysayers and haters in these forumsIf we get no 120hz and same
Size notch then I’ll be upset all the leaks are looking bad smaller batt etc, what’s happening Apple I thought this iPhone would be the game changer we need