Alleged iOS 18 Design Resource Reveals visionOS-Like Redesign [Updated]

[Realityck]

Rubbish. 50 shades of grey. Why is Apple determined to remove all contrast from iOS and MacOS?

That was my first thought is using a iPhone using mostly grey shades dialogs/notifications in bright sunlight situations, that would be hard to see.

 

[Populus]

redesign the home screen

pagination still makes zero sense. just have infinite vertical scroll.

Why not just a switch? The current page layout stays as a default UI, with the option to default to something else, like the scrollable vertical app list we get when going to App Library and sliding down.

 

[redbeard331]

Rubbish. 50 shades of grey. Why is Apple determined to remove all contrast from iOS and MacOS?

Agreed, grey has got to be the worst choice, no contrast and looks like something made for a jitterbug. When I see nothing but greys, it makes me think of something OLD, Apple needs to hire some young talent, too many boomers in the company nowadays.

 

[truthsteve]

Terrible terrible idea. Pagination gives each app a spatial location. I know a particular app is on page 2 row 3.

you don't know page 4 row 3 which makes pagination pointless. you know page 1 and page 2, with vertical scrolling, you scroll to the top for "page 1" and scroll down a bit for "page 2". also it makes widgets pointless as getting to page 4 of widgets requires 3 swipes.

with vertical scrolling, I just need to spot that big black widget to find my stock widget with 1 swipe.

 

[midkay]

I don't buy it. Doesn't look any better, just more cluttered and less contrast. Looks fake.

 

[Populus]

That was my first thought is using a iPhone using mostly grey in bright sunlight situations, that would be hard to see.

Yeah, I honestly don’t see iOS/iPadOS going 100% visionOS design, it wouldn’t be practical. But I definitely see Apple implementing some touches of visionOS.

Honestly, I would prefer the UI to keep the opacity it has but we’ll see. Maybe I end up liking their approach.

BTW, that screenshot of the camera app is not enough for me to assume they’re going the visionOS route.

 

[yabeweb]

Apple doesn't 'do' major redesign. They do fragmented incremental updates, so not all portions of the OS & first party apps will be upgraded at once. It will be done over multiple years which is why iOS, iPadOS & macOS evolve at a snails pace.

The only releasing we had in iOS was brutal and in one step…..

 

[SactoGuy18]

The Department of Justice lawsuit is likely going to go on for years.
And it’s very likely that iOS 18 is pretty far in the development cycle, wouldn’t even be surprised if they start compiling the first dev beta within the next month and a half or so.

I still think there's a chance Apple may decide to settle with the US DoJ and EU fairly soon and may push back the changes planned for iOS 18 to iOS 19 in 2025. iOS 18, as I said, may be more a tweaked iOS 17.x but with far better integration of third party apps, app stores, NFC access and even a separate dedicated Headphones app so the iPhone works better with third party software and hardware. Remember, iOS 18 is probably still in internal alpha testing, and the first beta for outside developers won't arrive until June 2025; there's still time to implement what I suggested by late May 2024.

 

[truthsteve]

Everybody seems to hate this idea, but I’d be willing to try it so long as it were optional.

everybody hates change until they actually try it.

people hated the removal of home button and now people like swipes. majority hated headphone jack removal, now they're fine with AirPods. etc..

 

[ricketysquire]

This reminds me of a Winterboard theme back in the day when I jailbroke my IOS devices. All the icons were made transparent (well for all the apps that had new icons).

What’s old is made new again.

 

[truthsteve]

Pagination provides a visual cue as to where the user is within a list. In an infinite list, there's no top or bottom, which makes identifying your location harder.

Of course this is also the company that brought you the UI abomination called the dock, so it might happen.

you don't know what exactly is on page 4.

plus if you've ever traveled internationally, you download a whole bunch of apps, the tend to bring it into the first page for quick access which ruins your entire layout.

at least with infinite scroll, you can do interesting things like sort by alphabetical and use the right swipe bar to quickly jump to a letter. or you can easily spot a widget you placed somewhere instead of swiping to the left to find that widget on page 5.

 

[truthsteve]

I absolutely detest infinite scroll. It makes it a massive pain to jump to the beginning or end of a page. one of the worst design patterns ever.

what? you tap on top of the screen to jump to the top. if you want to scroll all the way down, you just use the scroll bar. no different than scrolling on the horizontal circles on the homescreen today but provides better usage.

 

[tomtad]

A single screenshot, from an anonymous source, and shows the exact same app with some shiny edges on the buttons?

I’m calling ******** on this one

 

[truthsteve]

Gross. Save that for lagdroid.

swiping to page 5 is gross.

 

[.wojtek]

Windows 7 Aero 😈 😂

 

[0xjf]

I'm confused. What is the difference between that alleged design and what we have currently?

 

[BJMRamage]

Looks like a printing plate didn’t have ink.

VisionOS and the tvOS menu are layer-based and work with the ghosted look…as Vision uses . As of now iOS is only layer based on a few elements (control center and Safari UI for example).

Skeuomorphism wasn’t as lean since some designers didn’t make easily repeating elements and instead used larger chunks, and therefore ios7 came with a touch of a speed boost. I didn’t mind some skeuomorphic elements pre ios7 but have realized that “cool” shelf look or page rip didn’t actually help the Content of what I should focus on.

All that said, if they change the iOS then we’ll all have to deal with it once we update (unless you jailbreak). I could see options to adjust some design elements like on the lockscreen.

 

[tomtad]

As long as the skeuomorphism is designed consistently and thoughtfully. Since MacOS has brought back the 3D look, some of the application icons like like they've been carefully composed, while others look like they were made on a time crunch, and completely apart from the others.

You’re spot on, there’s zero visual harmony with the macOS icons.

Just looking at what you’ve posted you’ve got a realistic camera in Image Capture, but a cartoonish envelope in Mail. Why?

 

[truthsteve]

Well, it wouldn't really be infinite, since presumably you'd have a finite number of apps.

of course. it's just a term used in dev.

 

[scorpio vega]

swiping to page 5 is gross.

Who is swiping. Most ppl use spotlight lol.

Infinite scrolling is tacky and belongs on a tacky os like android.

 

[IllegitimateValor]

Agreed. But how much color do you actually see in the Camera app UI? Most the color comes from what the camera is actually seeing. I think they will retain color, but everything more glass-like, just like VisionOS.

Your comment gives me more grace for my assessment than I was originally going to give it. The beautiful contrast in our modern OLEDs gives us such strikingly deep black colors, that switching to greys would feel weak. Hard to gauge the awesomeness of the glass-like without anything in frame in the camera app leak.

 

[truthsteve]

Who is swiping. Most ppl use spotlight lol.

if you're using spotlight over swiping to page 5, that literally makes the pagination useless

and you can use spotlight in an infinite setup too. so I have no idea what you're saying.

at least with infinite scrolling, I can throw 5 big widgets on the homescreen and use it comfortably alongside my app icons.

right now I throw a big widget and then there's holes on the page. now I have to figure out what icons to fill it with. annoying af

 

[BJMRamage]

I'm confused. What is the difference between that alleged design and what we have currently?

Currently either have a black-based background for the camera app. The alleged design uses a grey background and slight glass-like buttons more akin to. Vision OS and the TV app on tvOS.

 

[bigjnyc]

What's your preference? Everyone just praises Apple blindly with every move, or are individuals allowed to think critically?

Forums are meant for discussions, not gaslighting differing opinions just because it's not yours.

You've been here a while though, so maybe you just don't like that the paint is fading on Apple's facade and now the negative sentiment bugs you?

Looks I touched a nerve. sorry..... discussing and offering personal preferences and opinions are much different than complaining and whining. The difference is very obvious.

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

I still think there's a chance Apple may decide to settle with the US DoJ and EU fairly soon and may push back the changes planned for iOS 18 to iOS 19 in 2025. iOS 18, as I said, may be more a tweaked iOS 17.x but with far better integration of third party apps, app stores, NFC access and even a separate dedicated Headphones app so the iPhone works better with third party software and hardware. Remember, iOS 18 is probably still in internal alpha testing, and the first beta for outside developers won't arrive until June 2025; there's still time to implement what I suggested by late May 2024.

Not a chance.
Also, most of that stuff you’re suggesting wouldn’t require them to change anything, as most of it already exist in other countries.
Would just require a couple flips of switches.