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Alleged iPhone 5S User Guide Photo Highlights Fingerprint Sensor As 'Touch ID'

Abobrek said:
According to CNET, "...including an A7 processor, a rear camera able to capture 1080p video at 120 frames per second, and a battery capable of lasting 250 hours in standby mode on a single charge."
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250 hours isn't as huge improvement as it sounds - the iPhone 5 battery is advertised as lasting 225 hours in standby.
 
wigglewiggle said:
Oh, sorry, I thought you may have been able to work out what happens next using logic.

Let's try and put in another format you may understand, a picture:

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Note, this demonstrates nearly a 1000% increase in 2013 from 2012 of NFC transactions. Wait, you capitalized and underlined it. Let me!

This graph demonstrates the number of NFC TRANSACTIONS in millions of dollars.

:rolleyes:
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No reason to be stepped on your toes. These numbers are highly questionable. If there is no prior sales record to base your forecast on (look at the 2012 numbers) and the adoption rate is unpredictable (and lower than expected (look up NFC in Gartner)) than these numbers don't mean anything.

What they most likely did here, was extrapolate the number of NFC equipped phones and assume an average spending per customer. That is wrong. I see no indication at the source that they looked at adoption rate of retailers, which is a much more reliable and important metric than shipped NFC phones. Compare to GPS equipped phones. Everyone has one, but does everyone navigate using it? I don't think so.
 
wigglewiggle said:
At this moment they do not. In 2006 not many people listened to music on their phones or had even heard of cloud computing.
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Absolutely. I'm not saying it won't catch on at some point, just that it hasn't yet.

Although I did see some survey recently asking people what features people considered when buying a new smartphone, and NFC barely registered.
 
peterdevries said:
What they most likely did here, was extrapolate the number of NFC equipped phones and assume an average spending per customer. That is wrong. I see no indication at the source that they looked at adoption rate of retailers, which is a much more reliable and important metric than shipped NFC phones..
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Good point.
 
Shaun said:
I agree that you don't see many people using them but it will come. Most new debit cards from UK banks now come automatically with the wireless tech as standard. Personally having had my wallet stolen last year I would feel safer using my iPhone with pre-loaded credit to spend especially if you had to authenticate with your fingerprint.

I can see people using their iPhones as bus/tube passes, rail tickets, plane tickets, coffee shops, restaurants, etc. I was reading about this new PayPal app that will automatically send you vouchers when you're near a store. Imagine you go in scan your voucher and that's it you've paid. At the same time it adds your loyalty points to your account, etc. All with one swipe of the iPhone.
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I absolutely see the added value of this type of tech and would welcome the function in an iPhone. But there are indications that it will be overtaken by app-based payments. A bit less convenient, but more interactive in terms of discounts based on proximity to the store, advertisements push etc. etc.
 
Why does it matter that [insert three letter government acronym here] could find out what your finger looks like?
It's like everybody on MacRumors is a serial killer. Everybody's freaking out.
 
I just wonder if you simply have to hold your thumb or if you have to click n hold for a few sec's like activating siri from the locked screen for the id button to work. If click n hold is the "key" then i see alot of broken home buttons within 6 months
 
Rogifan said:
So the external casing/look of the phone determines whether its a new model or not? Because in my book faster processor, better camera, fingerprint sensor, possibly better display and battery life is not last years model. But then again I'm not hung up on whether the external hardware aesthetic is different or not.
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When all of the things you mentioned on the last phone are pretty much good enough for 90% out the people out there, not much is going to change with this 5S.

Now iO7, that is something to get excited about.
 
!!!!For everyone to read!!!!!

Off topic..maybe

But lets step back out of our techno-shirts.
Get out of your biz suits..throw on some shorts
Go outside..and just breath in...deeply
close your eyes...smell the nature..and open it

maybe sometimes all this techno talk, we need a break and get back into reality sometimes....guys...its just a phone, its not like its your wife (well...wait..to some people it is...)


In relation to what I said above, we as people set the bar SOOO high that anything less is like your kid getting a A- instead of a A+, and now all H3ll broke loose

The iphone is a immaculate device, hand finished. Every detail, even to the space between the facetime and receiver, is all pinpoint down to the very milli inch . The design is flawless when you hold it in your hand, the perfect weight.

And the ios...wow. The fact that my 2 yr old son picked up the iPad, and now 4 months later can read all the alphabets and numbers now. wow

The fact that I can facetime my grandpa in the middle east that I have not seen in 12 years. wow

So again, lets step back, and look how amazing this device is guys. Really.
 
duffman9000 said:
Apple has been doing much of this, minus the big celebration, for the MBPs. I don't think the retina MBP is boring. High DPI displays for Windows seems to be just kicking off.

Maybe because it's really difficult to invent new features. If Apple were to finally build a larger phone, how else would it be different besides having a bigger screen? It would probably be more of the same except with a bigger screen.
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But Retina displays ARE new technology, not just warmed-over components, so a Retina-anything is a big deal. Take the exact same contents of the 5 and stick it in a bigger phone, and it's still a 5...just with a bigger screen.
 
synyster11 said:
When all of the things you mentioned on the last phone are pretty much good enough for 90% out the people out there, not much is going to change with this 5S.

Now iO7, that is something to get excited about.
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True, but iOS7 will be available for everyone, not just those with the "new" phones.
 
Request

Dear :apple:,

I've been good all year. I'm not a registered developer and I have not downloaded iOS 7 and I am waiting for the official release. Please, please release iOS 7 today.

Thank you. :)
 
YourHerojb said:
Why does it matter that [insert three letter government acronym here] could find out what your finger looks like?
It's like everybody on MacRumors is a serial killer. Everybody's freaking out.
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Big data is the problem here. On its own your SMS data might mean nothing, but combined with other data from other sources they might know a lot more than you think. It could result in unsolicited targeting of advertisements, but could also end with insurances changing their rates.

Example: you spend a lot of time in a bad neighbourhood with a lot of car- break-ins and your phone tracks your location and transmits this. That information could be bought by an insurer who increases his premiums on your policy. Not legal now, but who knows what is already being done illegally or what will be legalised in the future?
 
synyster11 said:
When all of the things you mentioned on the last phone are pretty much good enough for 90% out the people out there, not much is going to change with this 5S.

Now iO7, that is something to get excited about.
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This phone probably isn't meant for iPhone 5 users. It's for the rest of us that are still using a iP4S or iP4 or even a 3GS.

For us it's a gigantic leap in performance.
 
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