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ugh my computer science and android friends will **** me to death making fun of the 1GB ram for months to come lol
And the rest of us will make fun of people who worry about that.

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Last years jump in performance from the 5 to the 5s was almost 100%. This year..we get much less than a 40% upgrade...
If only the new phone were improved in other ways.
 
ugh my computer science and android friends will **** me to death making fun of the 1GB ram for months to come lol

Easy answer: when you have less, then you'll have to be smarter to do more and better than the rest.
 
Wow Apple would be all kinds of arrogant releasing an $800 device with 1GB RAM heading into 2015. You can argue about whether or not it needs more (it does) or if most people will even care (or even know what it is) but this is a premium flagship device that makes Apple a lot of money. To skimp on RAM to save a few bucks when you are the richest company in the world, well, it beggars belief and leaves a bitter taste quite frankly. Still a chance it isn't true of course...
 
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i live in Germany with 75%+ and Spain of 85%+ Android marketshare (exaggergated numbers obvs) so i have no real choice :p

i remember when i started to study in 2010 they all had iPhones. now i am the only one left :eek:


I ride the S-Bahn, U-Bahn, trams every day and see quite a bunch of iPhones... not sure which part of town you're in? which Uni?

and.. how's your boy Kay One doin?
 
And yet there are countless complaints about the nexus 5 and Moro x lagging. So what does that mean? It means everyone's experience is different. You telling us you never had lag on the n5 is no different than people saying they never had lag on the iPhone.

What would you say if I said you're lying and ure kidding me if you say there's no lag on the n5? Would you be ok with that? I wouldn't think so. In the same way, telling people who don't see lag on their iPhone's that they're lying or apologizing for apple is wrong.

So, you have put us in the same position with both devices. I simply made the statement to show that you should compare apples to apples (no pun intended), phones without carrier bloat and their stock form. I've never had a moment of lag on my device because I run it clean and don't trash it up with tons of garbage, the same as any knowledgeable iOS user would do. I didn't at all ever make the statement that you can't load them with trash and expect a perfect experience .. heck, that should be evident by the fact I said compare stock experience to stock experience.

Simply stating the "OMG ANDROID IS SO BAD AT RAMS" garbage is outdated or misapplied. I can't help people want to buy badly skinned versions of the OS, but that doesn't put those devices into the same category as stock devices.
 
Not significant enough.

That's a comment that I expect only from someone who upgrades from a 5S. That is most definitely the minority though. Most people skip at least one generation. From an iPhone 5 (which scored 700 on Geekbench), the difference is huge. I will upgrade from an iPhone 4S (it scored 215), so the difference is gigantic.
 
So, you have put us in the same position with both devices. I simply made the statement to show that you should compare apples to apples (no pun intended), phones without carrier bloat and their stock form. I've never had a moment of lag on my device because I run it clean and don't trash it up with tons of garbage, the same as any knowledgeable iOS user would do. I didn't at all ever make the statement that you can't load them with trash and expect a perfect experience .. heck, that should be evident by the fact I said compare stock experience to stock experience.

Simply stating the "OMG ANDROID IS SO BAD AT RAMS" garbage is outdated or misapplied. I can't help people want to buy badly skinned versions of the OS, but that doesn't put those devices into the same category as stock devices.

Right, I agree that you should compare apples to apples. But the fact is the iphone with its 1gb of RAM does lag. But my g3 with 3gb does too. So does the n5 and the moto x.

Blaming everything on RAM is incorrect.
 
While better specs are always desired, the vast majority of people never experience any issues whatsoever related to lack of RAM, yet they still want more just because. . .why? A completely different OS needs that much? In fact, the only complaints I have ever seen about RAM is from Safari and multiple open pages. I can't think of one other app that has an issue with RAM (and my current iOS app count is 1,079 owned and tried over the years) - because devs know that the iPhone has 1GB of RAM and they write their apps accordingly. But, like people who demand high pixel counts on their cameras, even though they never see the difference, tech suffers the same "feature want, even if not needed" syndrome.

1GB of RAM is enough until its not enough. The vast majority haven't reached "not enough" yet.

Yes, the devs do write their apps with the RAM limitations in mind. Have you ever considered the type of apps you might get if that limitation was higher?

Look, everyone think for a minute, software development follows hardware. You will NEVER get richer, more productive apps unless the hardware is already there to support them. This has been true since computers were first developed.

People brag about how Apple apps are 'better' than apps on other stores. That will not be true in a couple of years. Developers will certainly move their best apps to other platforms because the hardware will support them.

For those who say 'one gig is good enough' I have to ask, is 'good enough' where you really want to be for the rest of your life? If the human race thought 'good enough' was best we would still be living in trees, never mind developing computers, going to the moon, etc. Thank goodness the rest of us aren't as short-sighted as you are.
 
While better specs are always desired, the vast majority of people never experience any issues whatsoever related to lack of RAM, yet they still want more just because. . .why? A completely different OS needs that much? In fact, the only complaints I have ever seen about RAM is from Safari and multiple open pages. I can't think of one other app that has an issue with RAM (and my current iOS app count is 1,079 owned and tried over the years) - because devs know that the iPhone has 1GB of RAM and they write their apps accordingly.

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1GB of RAM is enough until its not enough. The vast majority haven't reached "not enough" yet.
If you (or anyone else for that matter) are genuinely curious about why we push for higher amounts of RAM, check out the article from a week ago also about the 1GB RAM speculation. Read the arguments for and against, and you might get a better sense of the underlying factors. If you're more technically minded, reading apple.stackexchange would be preferable, as the answers there would be more objective (and less noisy).
 
I up voted you buddy!

As a developer, can you explain how 2GB would give everyone a better experience?

Even you realize that the 4 and 4S cannot be supported forever. More RAM is good, not evil like the vocal minority think.

I am sure you would utilise more, if you had it. No one would use less if given more. If it is something that could scale well.

As a developer I don't need more than 512MB of ram, so having 1 or 2GB wouldn't make a big difference for the kind of apps I wrote (I'm not in the games business, it may be different for that kind of apps). I was able to run my apps fine on the original iPad with only 256MB of RAM, as a matter of fact my app uses "only" up to 150MB of ram, no more than that.
Anyway if I'm a "good citizen" and try to waste the smallest possible amount of memory I know I can improve to the overall user experience. When my app goes background I free a lot of memory, this way I have less chances to be purged when iOS needs memory.
2GB of RAM wouldn't make a difference for my apps, I'd still free memory when possible. But 2GB of RAM would allow more apps to run "simultaneously" without being forced to close.
In iOS is quite easy to restore an apps state when the app is forced to close and then is opened back again, but it can take time and resources.
So having less RAM means you have to close and open apps more frequently, and this is not the best for battery consumption since you keep doing initialisation tasks all the time.

As I mentioned early I'm not in the games business but I imagine a game developer could use more RAM if available.
 
Last years jump in performance from the 5 to the 5s was almost 100%. This year..we get much less than a 40% upgrade...

And from the 4 to the 4S, it was a 3.8% upgrade.

And the "we" in your posting are the 0.5% of users who actually upgrade from an iPhone 5S to an iPhone 6. Most upgrades will come from older models.
 
Cropped and straightened iPhone 5 vs iPhone 6 GIF - not my best work, had to use Win XP's default tools...

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The shot from the "iPhone 6" been shot earlier that day, thats why it looks better.
On the picture shot with the 5s, many indoor lights have been switched, the outdoor lightning of somebuildings have turned on.
 
That's a comment that I expect only from someone who upgrades from a 5S. That is most definitely the minority though. Most people skip at least one generation. From an iPhone 5 (which scored 700 on Geekbench), the difference is huge. I will upgrade from an iPhone 4S (it scored 215), so the difference is gigantic.

Yep, we do every other (~2 year). We were on the “S models”, but switched carriers so went from 4S to 5, skipped the 5S, and now ready for some delicious 6 goodness :D

We take a ton of photos, and 98% are with our phones, so two generations of camera improvements should be pretty huge: better specs, better flash, possible OIS.

We’ve also taken to keeping our phones pass coded, so TouchID will be a nice upgrade. Toss in the new displays, possible NFC payments and I’d say our upgrades will be well worth it. Faster CPU will just be that much more icing on the cake.

A 4S to a 4.7 or 5.5” iPhone 6 will be startling! Enjoy. :cool:
 
Please let's stop with this: "IT'S SAFARI'S FAULT". It is not!! My problem is multitasking. If I switch from one app to the other, the previous is always reloaded because there's no more RAM available. This doesn't happen with my iPhone 5 since it's not 64 bit and thus has more mem available.
 
Just realized today is California's Bday. Sept 9, 1850. 164 years old.

How nice to hold an event for a California grown product on California's Bday.

Well played Apple.
 
The shot from the "iPhone 6" been shot earlier that day, thats why it looks better.
On the picture shot with the 5s, many indoor lights have been switched, the outdoor lightning of somebuildings have turned on.

I see more lights switched on in the left picture, which is the iPhone 6 photo.
 
Why I would like to see more RAM:

Having more RAM isn't just about the app you are currently looking at, I mean hopefully increasing the RAM in the iPhone would also increase the available RAM for the active application, but really it's about what is happening in the background. Apple is adding more and more background services, and developers are making more applications that have bits running in the background as well. Furthermore, as a user it is frustrating when a background app gets "insta killed" by the system when you needed to switch apps for a few minutes. Multitasking is an area where the iPhone (iOS) still has a lot of room to grow for users and additional RAM would be a logical piece of the puzzle in enhancing that part of the user experience. Anyone saying 1GB of RAM is enough is doing themselves and others around them a disservice, we are looking at the tech leader of our day it's not a far stretched hope that Apple would lead in some of their specs as well. The tech industry and their customers/consumers will not and should not say "X-Y-Z" is enough, we can always progress forward, and we will continue to utilize any amount of progress we can have. It is certainly not out of the realm of possibility that people could utilize 16GB of RAM (and far beyond), just as people (both developers and consumers) will utilize any processing enhancements.
 
Maybe it will have 2gb of ram? There are so many new things this phone will be asked to do with the watch, NFC, and health data that I couldn't imagine them not upgrading the ram to at least 2gb.
 
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Please let's stop with this: "IT'S SAFARI'S FAULT". It is not!! My problem is multitasking. If I switch from one app to the other, the previous is always reloaded because there's no more RAM available. This doesn't happen with my iPhone 5 since it's not 64 bit and thus has more mem available.

It happens on both my iPad Air and my iPhone 5. I occasionally play intensive games, as far as mobile gaming goes, and use the iWorks suite and other productivity apps when I'm on the go. Apps continually have to reload on both of my devices. For me, the promise of "multitasking" is a broken one that could be remedied by an increase in RAM. And with many people now opting to keep their phones past the end of their contracts, an increase would provide a great benefit now but ensure smooth performance for the life of the device.
 
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