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Last I remember, 2 > 1 so I have no idea why one would defend 1 over 2 in a matter like this. First thing I do when my machine begins to slow down is buy ram. Smooth sailing with 20 gigs on my imac. It was starting to become a nightmare at 8 even though it started off fine.
 
As a developer I don't need more than 512MB of ram, so having 1 or 2GB wouldn't make a big difference for the kind of apps I wrote (I'm not in the games business, it may be different for that kind of apps). I was able to run my apps fine on the original iPad with only 256MB of RAM, as a matter of fact my app uses "only" up to 150MB of ram, no more than that.
Anyway if I'm a "good citizen" and try to waste the smallest possible amount of memory I know I can improve to the overall user experience. When my app goes background I free a lot of memory, this way I have less chances to be purged when iOS needs memory.
2GB of RAM wouldn't make a difference for my apps, I'd still free memory when possible. But 2GB of RAM would allow more apps to run "simultaneously" without being forced to close.
In iOS is quite easy to restore an apps state when the app is forced to close and then is opened back again, but it can take time and resources.
So having less RAM means you have to close and open apps more frequently, and this is not the best for battery consumption since you keep doing initialisation tasks all the time.

As I mentioned early I'm not in the games business but I imagine a game developer could use more RAM if available.

Thats not how it works, you don't get 512MB, you get 300MB (and single threaded app even less). You use 150MB on an non graphical app (half of the limit), now try to make a games with tons of textures.
 
Last I remember, 2 > 1 so I have no idea why one would defend 1 over 2 in a matter like this. First thing I do when my machine begins to slow down is buy ram. Smooth sailing with 20 gigs on my imac. It was starting to become a nightmare at 8 even though it started off fine.

Because the almighty Apple says 1GB is better!

I don't know why either, but that seems to be the stance some on here take. Then when they finally upgrade it, it becomes the most magical experience ever. Granted, I understand not all have that mentality...
 
HTC M9 or Iphone 6

I was hoping to buy my first apple device this year which would have been the iphone 6 but with this specs I think I'll wait for the HTC One M9...But again we just have to wait a few hours
 
The 1 upside I can see for 1GB of Ram in the iPhone 6 is for those who are not going to be upgrading. It means older devices should be ok running newer apps (unless they specifically need some hardware). Devs will have to keep their apps fully optimised. (Tries to look on the bright side :p)

Exactly - it looks like there are two reasons
a) as long as the ipod touch 5g is supported - Dev will need to supported - adding 2G could fragment the line with 2G only apps.

b) On the technical side, Apple is using PoP in the packaging which means the CPU, GPU and RAM are all soldered into the same chip - I dont know if they make a RAM module that would fit the small packaging they are using - in the 5.5 they will be able to do it
 
"A wiring schematic..."

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I can't wait to read back through this thread and counting how many people are moaning about 1GB of RAM. Why would you have expected any difference? The 5S was a larger change in processing power and architecture, so if they'd wanted to do 2GB, it would've made more sense to do it with the 5S.
 
"We're going to double down on secrecy," Cook said Tuesday. "I'm very serious about this. Double down."

from - http://appleinsider.com/articles/12...s_very_serious_about_doubling_down_on_secrecy

Perhaps he was talking about this double down ....

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I can't believe it's 2014 and people still think specs really matter for an Apple device.


Yeah let's just keep ignoring all the people with complaints about app reloads when switching for a moment. Yeah!
 
I love Apple and everything they do...but if they seriously think I'll buy a phone at the end of 2014 (to use through 2016) with 1GB of RAM, they're out of their minds.

I bet you still buy one... you can't resist.
 
Because the almighty Apple says 1GB is better!

I don't know why either, but that seems to be the stance some on here take.

My understanding is that people say that they don't care. It's a decision that Apple has taken, and we have to live with it. We can complain about it, but for most users, it is not enough of an issue that it would force them to move to another manufacturer. I don't see anyone saying that 1GB is somehow a golden amount of RAM and that a higher amount would diminish the user experience. ;) It's just not something that many people consider to be a major issue when considering the whole package.

Other manufacturers also make weird and unpleasant decisions that the users apparently can live with - such as delivering the phone with Android.

(Ok, SCNR :D )
 
Are you sure these results are real ?? They could be fake..... It is strange why it puts iPhone 7.2 instead of 6 or 8.3?
 
That's not true ... 1 GB RAM. There is no reason not to build in 2 GB. Ahh there is one, next year you can advertise it as a great thing ... this is so obvious.

I will not buy a new iPhone with only 1 GB RAM ...

And I bet you do. ;)
 
I really hope that 1GB will be enough. My ipad Air is struggling with Safari and some other apps on a daily basis.

But my iphone 5 works just fine with 1 GB.

Came here to basically write this. There is no way you can't notice the RAM limitation on 64-bit devices. My iPad Mini Retina has an A7 and struggles with keeping browser tabs open and crashes to springboard a few times per day. Even on days where I'm not doing anything crazy, like browsing the web, taking notes, or checking email. Admittedly I do sometimes engage in advanced activities. For instance, I sometimes use Adobe Lightroom to edit and Adobe Ink and Slide to draw stuff. But I've noticed no difference between my use cases. The logs actually identify memory as the problem. There's no way around it, it's a fact.

Like you, my iPhone 5 very rarely exhibits any of these issues, and I even have Lightroom on there too. I'm quite concerned about trying to run iOS 9 on this thing next autumn. Unlike many members on this forum, some of us have switched to upgrading every two years when our contract expires. But I'd also really like an newer iPhone because of the better camera, TouchID iOS 8 features, and rumored mobile payment system. Guess I might have to buy another iPhone next autumn for iOS 9.

Anand of Anandtech (who was recently hired by Apple) even said that 64-bit chips use 20-30% more memory. In iOS 8 it can only get worse: Extensions, widgets, and new keyboards (including the new predictive default) will cause the system will be struggling with only 1GB of ram. Then throw in another process to remain connected to the iWatch? I sincerely hope that somebody is trolling us with that image because 1GB is not sustainable. I don't know if it's possible (probably not), but even 1.5GB would be a massive improvement from where we are now, and would likely be enough to curb memory issues in day-to-day tasks. Furthermore, it might be possible that Apple can fix some of these issues in software with memory compression, but we'll have to see. I don't believe that technology has been ported yet from OS X.
 
I don't see anyone saying that 1GB is somehow a golden amount of RAM and that a higher amount would diminish the user experience. ;)

(Ok, SCNR :D )

You missed the previous threads on this where you had many arguing that adding 1GB of ram would make battery life so much worse.
 
"We're going to double down on secrecy," Cook said Tuesday. "I'm very serious about this. Double down."

from - http://appleinsider.com/articles/12...s_very_serious_about_doubling_down_on_secrecy

What OS is the iWatch running? What 3rd party apps have been developed? What’s are the dev tools? Resolution of the display? That’s secrecy: not revealing specific details about new product lines (“wearables"), complete product redesigns (Mac Pro) internal development (Swift, many iOS features).

The fact that a device gets out of a warehouse, just a week before they start shipping isn’t anything to do with secrecy, it’s simply an inevitability for a huge global supply chain and highly anticipated product. :)
 
well, i miss the days where apple released phones which were top of line like the 2G and the ultimate 4.

iPhone4 was truly a masterclass with top of the line screen, camera and RAM. This iPhone6 screams midrange.
 
well, i miss the days where apple released phones which were top of line like the 2G and the ultimate 4.

iPhone4 was truly a masterclass with top of the line screen, camera and RAM. This iPhone6 screams midrange.

Yes, I've never had an iPhone but I have always admired the 4/4S they were just so beautiful in desing and the specs at that time were the best...too bad at that time I couldn't afford one :(
 
well, i miss the days where apple released phones which were top of line like the 2G and the ultimate 4.

iPhone4 was truly a masterclass with top of the line screen, camera and RAM. This iPhone6 screams midrange.

Do yourself a favor and wait till the announcement. Your passing judgement with zero facts.
 
Don't include Galaxy Note 4 (64 bits) , neither Xperia Z3(faster 32bits yet) , when evident multi-core results shows Cleary advantage of latest android.

Edit: added geekbench 3 results for Note 4.
Source http://gsminsider.com/2014/09/samsung-galaxy-note-4-sm-n910u-antutu-benchmark-geekbench/


1200 single core and 4036 multicore.


Shifting the goalposts.

You originally said "most android devices crushes that months ago."

And you come back with just two phones that haven't even been released yet.

Also this video has totally different benchmark scores for the Note 4.

Single: 1064
Multi: 3035

Are Samsung massaging their benchmark scores again?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7G3ju8s1f4#t=108
 
Some comments here clearly show that some people do not understand what RAM really is and how it works from an OS and Hardware engineering standpoint. So that makes it really hard to have an intelligent argument with the "more is better" mentality.
 
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