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There is no way that in the end of 2014 I'll be buying a phone with only 1GB of RAM. Thats an embarrassingly low amount and I hope Apple wouldn't be that foolish.

I am 100% with you and anyone who says otherwise is insane. Apple is a pathetic company if this ends up being true and any Apple Fanboys brushing this over seriously needs to rethink this over. As someone else said, if this was a Android phone we would all be laughing at them, but since its Apple its just all ok.

Def wont be buying this phone if its only 1gig, I will probably check out the HTC M8 or LG3
 
There is no way that in the end of 2014 I'll be buying a phone with only 1GB of RAM. Thats an embarrassingly low amount and I hope Apple wouldn't be that foolish.

Sounds to me like you might be the fool here, ruling out a phone without any clue as to what it's user experience is like because of a number.
 
easy. The all new iPhone 6S. Twice the memory and speed.

Maybe not even then. If the iPhone 6 really has 1GB of RAM, that will make 3 years of 1GB (5, 5S, 6)

That's a long time for no improvements in this area.
 
Maybe not even then. If the iPhone 6 really has 1GB of RAM, that will make 3 years of 1GB (5, 5S, 6)

That's a long time for no improvements in this area.

just to save a couple of bucks. well, fanboys say apple can do NO wrong. so i guess we accept what apple gives us, even if we don't like it.

As you know by now, my body is ready, even if my brains say no.
 
5s and 5 have the same amount of RAM, yet that graph shows a huge performance boost.

That's just in CPU performance.

CPU performance is how fast an action can happen, RAM is how many actions can happen.

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1GB is stupid in today's world. The iPhone 6 will be pushing more pixels than ever before, and with 1GB iPads already can't load 2 safari tabs in certain situations. So for example if I was writing this post, and needed to look up a definition in the dictionary, this whole website would be killed along with everything that I've put into this box and need to be reloaded.

There are 397,000 complaints on just this website alone related to having not enough RAM on the iPad. I would probably not be able to tell that to you if I was typing this on an iPad, without starting from scratch.

When you have so little RAM that you cannot do more than one task at a time in typical situations, your hardware is terrible. It's somewhat excusable for the iPad because most users spend a lot more time on each app window and more time with each task, but on a phone where I need driving directions, to look up a phone number and to play some music all at the same time, I don't want to have a long 10 second loading screen between every action.

Spotify sometimes takes over 2 minutes to connect and load if it gets dropped out of memory. That uses 2 minutes CPU power, 2 minutes of battery life, and 15 MB of LTE data, just to switch between two apps, which would cost nothing if there was more ram.
 
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just to save a couple of bucks. well, fanboys say apple can do NO wrong. so i guess we accept what apple gives us, even if we don't like it.

As you know by now, my body is ready, even if my brains say no.
We have many options:
  • Accept it.
  • Accept it but gripe.
  • Go somewhere else.
  • Gripe about screen resolution.
  • Gripe that the iPhone doesn't have an IR blaster.
  • Eat a sandwich.
 
iOS (and WP) is way more efficient. Android needs the extra; it's not something to brag about.

That's very true. It's also the OEM mentality. They're all about looking great on paper cos they don't own the core technology and can't materially advance the user experience. I should know, I work for one.

But more pixels the eye can't see and more RAM than is necessary at this stage makes for great bragging rights, I guess. And the placebo effect doesn't hurt, judging by the posters here who are convinced the LG G3 screen blows away the iPhone's, when objective tests show otherwise.
 
These scores absolutely blow other flagships out of the water by a huge margin. Most flagships have around half the single core performance.

Android phones try to get around this weakness by having more than 2 cores, but in reality there is little real world benefit to having a large number of cores on a phone and flagship Android devices tend to be half as fast as the current iPhone 5S.


With that said, real world performance has always been Apple's strength. By delivering no meaningful increase in real world performance this year you can expect the competition to destroy Apple's performance lead within months if not less.

Thanks. That's what I thought.
 
just to save a couple of bucks. well, fanboys say apple can do NO wrong. so i guess we accept what apple gives us, even if we don't like it.

As you know by now, my body is ready, even if my brains say no.

They claim it saves battery life! If that's the case why not just go back to 512 MB. Tell the developers to get off their lazy behinds.
 
That's very true. It's also the OEM mentality. They're all about looking great on paper cos they don't own the core technology and can't materially advance the user experience. I should know, I work for one.

But more pixels the eye can't see and more RAM than is necessary at this stage makes for great bragging rights, I guess. And the placebo effect doesn't hurt, judging by the posters here who are convinced the LG G3 screen blows away the iPhone's, when objective tests show otherwise.

If Apple did the same model as Google, iOS would end up in the same boat. Android runs just fine in stock form, its when they want to crap it up with useless bells and whistles that it "needs" more.
 
If I had a shill account, this is exactly what I would say.

Like I stated in an older RAM discussion... My FireTv has 2GB and it blows all streaming players out of the water and it cost 99 bucks.

Subsidized, blah blah. I know all about it.

ETA: Might as well spout nonsense, moto g is awake and never reads anything for context and has fruit loops for brain cells.

Also, could you have picked a more ironic name...

Like I said, and sometimes you have to repeat yourself so people understand. The year is 2014. We have cars that run on electricity, lights that are powered by magnets... and iOS cannot keep more than two tabs of data loaded at once. But please, no more RAM! 1 gb is enough. Anyone who wants more ram is a shill!
 
I am 100% with you and anyone who says otherwise is insane. Apple is a pathetic company if this ends up being true and any Apple Fanboys brushing this over seriously needs to rethink this over. As someone else said, if this was a Android phone we would all be laughing at them, but since its Apple its just all ok.

Def wont be buying this phone if its only 1gig, I will probably check out the HTC M8 or LG3

I have an HTC One M8 and an "old" iPhone 5. I can tell you, I sense no difference between the two as an average, everyday user. I'm not a gamer, so I can't comment to that. But, here's what I do. I do a little web surfing throughout the day, listen to music, online banking, and the occasional youtube video. In all aspects, the HTC One M8 simply gives me a bigger screen, and that's about it vs iPhone 5.

What I'm interested in is the finger print reader and mobile payments. Apple does this fingerprint reader way better than Samsung, etc. That, along with Swype/Swiftkey may bring me back to Apple.

And I think the M8 has 2G of RAM. Don't know and don't care, doesn't matter.
 
Considering my Nexus 5 lasts as long as my 5S did but contains 2 more CPU cores, 1GB more RAM, a 1" larger screen I'd say they would be just fine with adding another 1GB. Granted yes, the Nexus 5 does have a larger battery (2300mAh) but throw in the items above and I'd say its a pretty fair fight.

Out of pure curiosity though: If you use the same app (say Whatsapp, Facebook, or something else that is near-identical on both platforms) on iOS and Android, how much RAM does it use on iOS and how much does it use on Android?
 
I bet you still buy one... you can't resist.

I already have to reload tabs on my 5c...I'll resist doing that on a larger screen for 2 more years.

If anything, I only have 1 more year left if I wait (for the 6s) but hopefully this rumor is false. I'm looking forward to the iWatch/iBand!
 
it's all about how the software utilizes it. That is the strength of iOS.

My old Moto x had better day to day performance than my htc one. That's how much specs don't matter
 
That's just in CPU performance.

CPU performance is how fast an action can happen, RAM is how many actions can happen.

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1GB is stupid in today's world. The iPhone 6 will be pushing more pixels than ever before, and with 1GB iPads already can't load 2 safari tabs in certain situations. So for example if I was writing this post, and needed to look up a definition in the dictionary, this whole website would be killed along with everything that I've put into this box and need to be reloaded.

There are 397,000 complaints on just this website alone related to having not enough RAM on the iPad. I would probably not be able to tell that to you if I was typing this on an iPad, without starting from scratch.

When you have so little RAM that you cannot do more than one task at a time in typical situations, your hardware is terrible. It's somewhat excusable for the iPad because most users spend a lot more time on each app window and more time with each task, but on a phone where I need driving directions, to look up a phone number and to play some music all at the same time, I don't want to have a long 10 second loading screen between every action.

Spotify sometimes takes over 2 minutes to connect and load if it gets dropped out of memory. That uses 2 minutes CPU power, 2 minutes of battery life, and 15 MB of LTE data, just to switch between two apps, which would cost nothing if there was more ram.

Good grief, seriously, you really think that the fact 2 tabs couldn't be loaded has anything to do with memory? WTH!! Safari is a hog, or has a messed up implementation, and they need to fix that, but a browser, any browser, should easily work in 1G of memory. The pages themselves are what 2M, even if everything is unpacked in memory, it certainly not hundreds of megabytes of memory. I had computer with half that memory and it opened 20 tabs easy, no delay.
 
Out of pure curiosity though: If you use the same app (say Whatsapp, Facebook, or something else that is near-identical on both platforms) on iOS and Android, how much RAM does it use on iOS and how much does it use on Android?

I use Sunrise calendar on both my iPad Mini Retina and my Nexus 5, memory usage was around 65MB on the iPad and 55MB on the Nexus 5. Granted though this might be totally unscientific b/c "system activity monitor" was all I could find to measure memory usage .. I opened Sunrise, watched memory rise and then closed it and measured the difference. If there is a better way I am happy to test.
 
I have an HTC One M8 and an "old" iPhone 5. I can tell you, I sense no difference between the two as an average, everyday user. I'm not a gamer, so I can't comment to that. But, here's what I do. I do a little web surfing throughout the day, listen to music, online banking, and the occasional youtube video. In all aspects, the HTC One M8 simply gives me a bigger screen, and that's about it vs iPhone 5.

What I'm interested in is the finger print reader and mobile payments. Apple does this fingerprint reader way better than Samsung, etc. That, along with Swype/Swiftkey may bring me back to Apple.

And I think the M8 has 2G of RAM. Don't know and don't care, doesn't matter.

compare the RRP price of the M8 vs the iphone. With the prices we pay for an iPhone, maybe...just maybe we should be getting more.
 
It really should have at least 2GB of ram in it. Come on Apple, it's 2014.

Then again, their 99% of the iPhone consumer base doesn't care about specs so Apple can get away with this.
 
Apple applications don't use hardly any ram at all so even 1gb is overkill. They should reduce it back to 512k to increase battery life. My iPhone 4 worked just fine.

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