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Welp I've been thinking, and it will have 2GB, it just has to. Chance that just the 5.5 inch will have it but that would be crazy. They will both have at least 2, and the 5.5 possibly 3GB. There is no way Apple launches 64 bit and then sticks 1GB in there. Thank me later ;)
 
Funny thing is. iOS needs much more ram than android. Android is so well made, that you can have an insane amount of tabs on a Moto G with 1 GB ram. Also, the same applications use less ram.
 
The amount of memory in a device is completely irrelevant if the user's task at hand has its needs met. Would I like more RAM? Sure, spec wars to fight, memory is realistically very cheap, etc, but it's not going to stop me from upgrading if we only find 1GB of RAM today. That said, I also upgrade to every new iPhone release -- sell the old, buy the new, and only have to absorb the cost of the difference.
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Safari tab refreshing -- more memory would help this, but that's also a bandaid, it doesn't solve the underlying problem of the browser taking more memory than many other types of apps. Still, for those using lots of tabs at the same time, no doubt this limitation is a concern.

That's not really my use case (I use 2 tabs at most typically, and if I do use more, I don't mind the refreshing), but I do understand, different strokes for different folks and all.

I don'T really get why Safari can't load mroe tabs than that. There must be some broken programming somewhere deep in there they have a problem fixing. There is no reason why Safari couldn'T load 10 tabs without issue in 10G. In my Mozilla browser on the desktop here, I routinely load 30 tabs and it rarely goes about 1.5G (though it used to be a big memory hog in the past). Doubt anyone is loading 30 tabs on a phone ;-).
 
Good grief, seriously, you really think that the fact 2 tabs couldn't be loaded has anything to do with memory? WTH!! Safari is a hog, or has a messed up implementation, and they need to fix that, but a browser, any browser, should easily work in 1G of memory. The pages themselves are what 2M, even if everything is unpacked in memory, it certainly not hundreds of megabytes of memory. I had computer with half that memory and it opened 20 tabs easy, no delay.

Do you when know what swap memory means?
 
1G forces Apple to stay memory efficient and allows newer iOS's to be used on older devices. eh?
 
Funny thing is. iOS needs much more ram than android. Android is so well made, that you can have an insane amount of tabs on a Moto G with 1 GB ram. Also, the same applications use less ram.

Wow! That's so bizarro, no IOS doesn't need MORE memory than android. Every single benchmarks says its not the case. Its possible though that the browser implementation on MOTO G is better than Safari. Its Safari the problem, not the amount of available memory or its management.
 
At this point I cannot see the point in having tabs in Safari at all.

Functionally tabs are identical to mere bookmarks. You click on a tab - refresh, you click on a bookmark - refresh. Different UI, same behavior. At least bookmarks are consistent.
 
Wow! That's so bizarro, no IOS doesn't need MORE memory than android. Every single benchmarks says its not the case. Its possible though that the browser implementation on MOTO G is better than Safari. Its Safari the problem, not the amount of available memory or its management.

No. Apps on android does not eat as much ram.
 
It really should have at least 2GB of ram in it. Come on Apple, it's 2014.

Then again, their 99% of the iPhone consumer base doesn't care about specs so Apple can get away with this.

My parents don't know jack about specs still they're always complaining about tabs refreshing in Safari on 'brand new' iPad Airs.

I assume many 'non-techie' people are this way.

It sucks when a major company decides to jeopardize overall experience and usability to save some money.

I wonder what iPads the execs use for their personal use.
 
1G forces Apple to stay memory efficient and allows newer iOS's to be used on older devices. eh?

I'm pretty sure they are capable of being reasonably efficient enough to let A5 devices run iOS 8 without crippling new devices. 512 and 1GB standard now becomes 1 and 2GB. iOS 9 will be for 1GB+ devices.
 
1G forces Apple to stay memory efficient and allows newer iOS's to be used on older devices. eh?

Quite - however I don't think that mobile devices really need more than this amount of memory to remain functional. After all, the modern OSs are still quite functional on 2-4GB of memory.
 
Quite - however I don't think that mobile devices really need more than this amount of memory to remain functional. After all, the modern OSs are still quite functional on 2-4GB of memory.

Non-mobile OSs use backing store as virtual memory. iOS does not. Today the average web page is 200+Mb. Even with compression 1GB is limiting. On top of that your typical 64-bit iOS device has a mixture of 32 bit and 64 bit apps in memory at the same time meaning you loose 10-15% because the OS has loaded 32-bit and 64-bit versions of the same system library. 1GB is simply a train wreck.
 
I'll be buying a Note 4 if the larger iPhone 6 does indeed come with 1GB of ram. I've been longing for the day I'd change from Android back to iPhone but Apple always seems to cut corners and still charge way more than the competition.

I don't want to upgrade (ehm, downgrade) from a Note 2 with a 5.5" screen with thin bezels and 2GB of ram to a 5.5" iPhone with bigger bezels and half the ram.. I even doubt we will get any sd card support. They'll charge about 100 dollars more for every bump in storage as they always do, at least where I live.. when a 128gb sd card is about 100 dollars..

I really hope all of these rumored specs (and iPhone 6 leaks) are fake and that Apple will blow us away in less than 2 hours from now..
 
It really should have at least 2GB of ram in it. Come on Apple, it's 2014.

Then again, their 99% of the iPhone consumer base doesn't care about specs so Apple can get away with this.

Exactly right, but the ipad better have more ram. It really needs it. I cant say my iPhone 5 has any issues though.
 
It really should have at least 2GB of ram in it. Come on Apple, it's 2014.

Then again, their 99% of the iPhone consumer base doesn't care about specs so Apple can get away with this.
To add to that, 99% only care about the logo. If it comes out with 2 GB , they will say apple is forward thinking. If it has 1 GB, then 2 GB is completely useless. If it has 1 GB and gets bad reviews for constant reloads they will say why would one need more then 1 tab/app open at a time in a phone!
 
Do you when know what swap memory means?

David, I designed computers, their software and every little components inside and out, since the early 1990s, so please keep the snideness to yourself.

Memory costs are so low, that I don't believe one second Apple would not increase memory just to save money. There are other factors at play.

Safari shouldn't need to swap with just 3 tabs. That's one area Apple should probably focus on, if they haven't already (haven't checked IOS 8).
 
Non-mobile OSs use backing store as virtual memory. iOS does not. Today the average web page is 200+Mb. Even with compression 1GB is limiting. On top of that your typical 64-bit iOS device has a mixture of 32 bit and 64 bit apps in memory at the same time meaning you loose 10-15% because the OS has loaded 32-bit and 64-bit versions of the same system library. 1GB is simply a train wreck.

I only have a good 1GB spare disk usage on my 5S, which is 16GB total. I keep the maximum tabs open, and really don't see any issues at all in terms of latency or reload times. Are you telling me something that I don't know?
 
Hm, Apple's 2X cpu gains seemed to stopped this year then, that is absolutely fantastic single core scores, that is extremely beast, it is almost double of a 800/801 single core score
 
Those benchmark scores are pretty laughable for a $700+ smartphone.

how so lmao? this beats anything currently on the market, performance wise, look at those single core scores, the 5S already crushed the competition with single core score and this brings it up even more. Most Android apps dont use all 4 cores well at all or efficiently still so iPhone's choice to go with stronger single core performance is a huge leap and a big lead over Android
 
There you go. Now do one.

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^^ Line outside the Apple Store on Sept. 19
 
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