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There isn't anything developers are going to come up with that needs more than 1GB. This is a phone, not a datacenter.

Absolutely NO developers are complaining about this limit.

Just get yourself ready for 1GB for the next 10 years. This is the upper limit of the use model in a phone, like how CPU speeds have stayed constant for the last 10 years, save for power reductions.

You're living too much in theory, not practice.

Remember, the goal of a smartphone is to do less, not to do more, because of power concerns. You leave the heavy compute to the desktop.

If Apple keeps the iPad with 1GB of RAM for the next ten years, that's all the more reason for me to stay the heck away from tablets. One application won't use 1GB of RAM, but iOS does sometimes have to free up RAM by closing apps or uncaching Safari pages, which is annoying.

By the way, there will be a point at which 1GB of RAM and 2GB of RAM will cost the same, or 2GB might even be cheaper.
 
Not sure why this is a shock to anyone. No one actually believed it would have anything "revolutionary" in it, did they? It's an upsized 5s with a new chip that is almost the same as the old chip.

err, i wouldn't quite say that. the move to 20nm tech is very revolutionary. and we are expecting a very large increase in battery life. quite large actually. the fact that it's dual core doesn't make any difference in terms of benchmarks/etc. we will see!

If Apple keeps the iPad with 1GB of RAM for the next ten years, that's all the more reason for me to stay the heck away from tablets. One application won't use 1GB of RAM, but iOS does sometimes have to free up RAM by closing apps or uncaching Safari pages, which is annoying.
well of course that won't happen, 10 years? kidding yourself. they will increase it where needed and at their disposal. mostly, it will be done where the majority of users require it
 
I never noticed how bad the iPhone Safari tabbed browsing had got. I remember when this was an issue on the iPad 1. I just did a test to confirm and my iPhone 5s can't have more than two tabs open without needing to reload. Sometimes even with just 2. Open up Chrome on the iPhone 5s and I can gave up opening tabs at half a dozen, with no reload between tabs. Safari clearly does have an issue, and it isn't RAM since Chrome is fine.

As for being a sheep. Some of us tried the dark side and didn't like it. I enjoyed using Llama - nice power user location feature, but I found most apps on my HTC One to be of poorer quality than their iOS counter parts (not all, but most) and I never found I was doing much else (aside from Llama) on Android that I couldn't do on iOS. Games performance was much better on the iPhone 5 than the HTC One. I had battery issues and Wifi issues which just pushed me over the edge and I switched back to an iPhone 5s after less than 6 months on Android.

I'm not a sheep - I just genuinely prefer the OS on my iPhone (I am not a fan of widgets), the better gaming performance, the much wider app support, and I like that it ties up nicely with both my iPad and 5 year old iMac. It's also the phone of choice at work (a large IT Services firm tracing its roots back over 100 years), with better support than Android. It makes sense. It's not blindness or technophobeness.
 
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well of course that won't happen, 10 years? kidding yourself. they will increase it where needed and at their disposal. mostly, it will be done where the majority of users require it

Well, we all require it for Safari to work without reloading and for apps to not close all the time in the background, and how much extra could 2GB cost? All the crappy Android tablets already have 2GB. Apple doesn't give their iToys the latest and greatest parts and artificially limits them to try and sell new ones, and this has been going on since the original iPhone.
 
So disappointing, iphones are barely running 1.4ghz and battery life sucks. If the 5.5in dont break 10 hours with heavy use I may have to switch.
 
Extremely dissapointing

this is almost the same as the iphone 5s, this is a complete joke, i just can't believe this is true, almost every new iphone got TWICES as fast as the one before, this is just 14% faster (even galaxy alpha got better results) and has the same ridiculous amount of memory that stops the devoping of more complex apps, and when the 6s intruduces next year w/ 2 gb, every single device w/ 1 gb will suffer because appls will be developed to devices w/ 2 gb, more safari page refreshing, more crashes, more LowMemory reports being send to apple, 2 gb can even help battery when in high usage because of less use of processor and cellular to refresh data, how can apple do this kind of things because of a part that cost less than 10 bucks and can give you so much improvement. probably the 5.5" version will get better specs, so apple is playing the same game as the other ones, if you what a flagship performance you must take the almost ipad mini size, 5.5" phablet, before you could get flagship performance in a 4" phone, now, the 4.7" will be just a bigger 5s with worse design and the 5.5" will be an expensive gigantic flagship with bad desing, and i'm not sure it will get better specs, and don't tell me that benchmark results don't matter, because they do, and don't tell me that the iphone don't need great results because it is optimised, bucause with only 1 GB of RAM, 2 cores and 1.3 ghz, it only get the results it get because it IS optimized, so, the benchmark result already conteins all the optimization it has.

i hate android, but i'm getting one.
 
I have mixed feelings about the iPhone only having 1GB of RAM and dual-core. On one hand, most flagship phones now have 2-3GB of ram and are quad-core. However, I think these phones are making up for a poor running OS.

The extra ram is needed for multitasking and dealing with multiple tabs during browsing, as well as filling a retina density display with enough graphics.

On the other hand, a 2GB, quad-core iPhone could alienate the large base as far as apps and new versions of iOS could run poorly on 1GB devices if provided memory keeps growing each year.
 
Well, we all require it for Safari to work without reloading and for apps to not close all the time in the background, and how much extra could 2GB cost? All the crappy Android tablets already have 2GB. Apple doesn't give their iToys the latest and greatest parts and artificially limits them to try and sell new ones, and this has been going on since the original iPhone.

If this really was a major concern, there already would be more RAM within the phone. It's not a concern, so there isn't. I myself, as a heavy user (max out my tabs, across ALL my devices) do not see this as a concern.

The 2GB extra won't cost more, but there is more here to consider than I think you might be realising (such as the effect on the OS, the developer, and the end user).

Also, keep in mind that Apple makes the fastest, and most performance driven chips that are available on the market. The graphics components are top of the game, and the CPU does an exceptional job. This 20nm chip will be very, very impressive (power vs consumption).
 
You're paying for a device with a huge price tag and that's the best Apple can do for you? Why not pay for a 2.0 GHz and 2 GB of RAM iPhone at least? At some point, Apple fans need to lay off the kool aid and realize that they're being fleeced for high prices. I wouldn't pay more than $450 for the iPhone 6. What's the point of "optimized" 1 GB of RAM with a 1.4 GHz processor and not many extra tidbits are thrown in to make the phone practical? Specs don't mean much since they are just statistics. As a consumer, I like iOS on my iPad a lot. Best user experience on a tablet. On a phone? Different story.

Huh! The A8 will be what, twice as fast as other phones with 1.4GHZ and somehow they NEED 2GHZ. WTH? Are ou stuck in the 90s or what. If the iphone is as fast as its purported to be at 1.4GHZ, then 2GHZ would be overkill and impact battery. On the Ipad, they'll probably clock the A8 faster, but on a phone what would be the point? Be 3 times faster than the competition but losing on battery life? What you say makes no sense.

Also, the boudaries between RAM and the Flash storage becomes very teneous as memory and storage controllers are improved and you probably don't need as much RAM for a very good performance.
 
If true, it Geekbenches more than twice as high as my laptop (with less RAM)... more than six times better than my 4S.

I can understand people being disappointed that there isn't a bigger jump from the 5S, but really, Apple isn't targeting that group with this device, right? I can't believe even Apple is expecting people to upgrade every year.

Also, battery life is everything.
 
it's all about how the software utilizes it. That is the strength of iOS.

My old Moto x had better day to day performance than my htc one. That's how much specs don't matter

That's true to a point, but as we've seen with the iPad, you start putting real pressure on iOS and it cracks from the lack of ram.

Basically Apple is knee-capping the iPhone, because there is no question the iPhone would be more capable with more RAM.
 
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this is almost the same as the iphone 5s, this is a complete joke, i just can't believe this is true, almost every new iphone got TWICES as fast as the one before, this is just 14% faster (even galaxy alpha got better results) and has the same ridiculous amount of memory that stops the devoping of more complex apps, and when the 6s intruduces next year w/ 2 gb, every single device w/ 1 gb will suffer because appls will be developed to devices w/ 2 gb, more safari page refreshing, more crashes, more LowMemory reports being send to apple, 2 gb can even help battery when in high usage because of less use of processor and cellular to refresh data, how can apple do this kind of things because of a part that cost less than 10 bucks and can give you so much improvement. probably the 5.5" version will get better specs, so apple is playing the same game as the other ones, if you what a flagship performance you must take the almost ipad mini size, 5.5" phablet, before you could get flagship performance in a 4" phone, now, the 4.7" will be just a bigger 5s with worse design and the 5.5" will be an expensive gigantic flagship with bad desing, and i'm not sure it will get better specs, and don't tell me that benchmark results don't matter, because they do, and don't tell me that the iphone don't need great results because it is optimised, bucause with only 1 GB of RAM, 2 cores and 1.3 ghz, it only get the results it get because it IS optimized, so, the benchmark result already conteins all the optimization it has.

i hate android, but i'm getting one.

You do know that its clocked much much lower than any chip used in Android phones... I'm guessing we are going to have a major boost in battery life.
 
1gb RAM

1gb RAM....awful. Get real Apple! I bought a brand new Apple iPad Mini Retina and that thing was jerky as heck after using it...can't believe they are only using 1gb of RAM.
 
Hola - Don't worry about it - the snide remarks are just due to the hype and people trying to one-up each other. It will be well, amigo :)

Indeed. It's best to stay away from the forums once the keynote begins and for about a week after it ends.

That's when the mods hand out the most time-outs and bans.

It's just not worth it.
 
1gb RAM....awful. Get real Apple! I bought a brand new Apple iPad Mini Retina and that thing was jerky as heck after using it...can't believe they are only using 1gb of RAM.

I agree it's unbelievable. I still can't beleive it. I am in shock.
 
Indeed. It's best to stay away from the forums once the keynote begins and for about a week after it ends.

That's when the mods hand out the most time-outs and bans.

It's just not worth it.

Then why not join the official IRC channel? ;)

I'm always there! But yes - I quite understand what you mean.. Sigh.
 
Indeed. It's best to stay away from the forums once the keynote begins and for about a week after it ends.

That's when the mods hand out the most time-outs and bans.

It's just not worth it.

We're are keeping our eyes peeled...
 
Indeed. It's best to stay away from the forums once the keynote begins and for about a week after it ends.

That's when the mods hand out the most time-outs and bans.

It's just not worth it.

Don't break the rules and stridemat won't have to be a meanie! :D
 
That HTC One M8 is looking better and better.

I'm not convinced these Geekbench scores are real, but if so, Apple will lose more market share at an accelerated pace. This is starting to feel like the 90s when Microsoft was ascendent - except unlike Windows, Android actually is pretty damn good when the OEMs don't lard it up.
 
That HTC One M8 is looking better and better.

I'm not convinced these Geekbench scores are real, but if so, Apple will lose more market share at an accelerated pace. This is starting to feel like the 90s when Microsoft was ascendent - except unlike Windows, Android actually is pretty damn good when the OEMs don't lard it up.

tell me bout it. at my place, the HTC One is going on a massive sale. bout 200USD on a 2yr contract. While iPhone5S is going for 500USD on the same contract. Might just divert to HTC if the leaked specs are confirmed later.
 
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