Alleged iPhone XI and XI Max Molds Show Triple Camera Layout

[Phoenix1000]

Face ID lets you carry out authentication without having to interact directly with your device. For example, say I want to enter a password into a safari webpage. With Touch-ID, I need to rest my finger on the fingerprint sensor. With Face ID, I just stand there looking at my screen and it gets done automatically.

This essentially saves you a step.

So what this means is that unlocking my iPad Pro is as simple as hitting spacebar on my Smart Keyboard twice. It also allows me to use Siri from the lock screen without having to unlock my device as well, since it automatically unlocks when I am looking at it.

Under the right situations, this means lesser friction when interacting with your device.

I could name a couple more, but I think you get the point.

Yes, what you write is correct. But for me personally this one "saved" interaction does not compensate the disadvantages I get with Face ID. How much time does it take to put my finger on the sensor? Is this one move really too much effort? Can't think so.

Without Face ID and Touch ID under glass instead, the front of the phone would only need a small notch on top of the phone for the front camera (I would place it centered on top). This design would come very close to the "perfect" phone with only a display on the front. And then, please, not more than two cameras on the back, the fastest SoC available on the market inside and I would buy it right away!

 

[The Game 161]

Notch will be here another 2-3 years as that’s how far we are away from sensors under the screen...something people will have to accept for now

Rumours for new phones then

Triple camera set up
Reverse wireless charging
Fast charger in the box

So far nothing else has been rumoured so you have to think there will be more as can’t just be better cameras and wireless charging on the back

 

[newyorksole]

Yes, what you write is correct. But for me personally this one "saved" interaction does not compensate the disadvantages I get with Face ID. How much time does it take to put my finger on the sensor? Is this one move really too much effort? Can't think so.

Without Face ID and Touch ID under glass instead, the front of the phone would only need a small notch on top of the phone for the front camera (I would place it centered on top). This design would come very close to the "perfect" phone with only a display on the front. And then, please, not more than two cameras on the back, the fastest SoC available on the market inside and I would buy it right away!

Let me get this straight. Majority of the time you interact with your iPhone, you’re holding it. Majority of the time you interact with your phone, you’re looking at it.

Yet, you have a problem with Face ID? Lol. It’s extremely fast and doesn’t require you to do anything extra than what you’re already used to doing. Sure there are times where it might be annoying to unlock and also obvious that you’re using your phone when you maybe shouldn’t be be. But overall, it isn’t a difficult transition from TiD to FiD.

And for everyone else... Do you stare at the back of your phone all day? How is this square patch on the BACK of the phone making you question whether or not you’ll buy it?

It’s ok to be picky and critique, but some of you really just hate Apple for other reasons which makes you just hate everything they do, even if it’s irrational. It’s kinda sad. I’m glad that I can use my devices happily and freely.

 

[Abazigal]

Yes, what you write is correct. But for me personally this one "saved" interaction does not compensate the disadvantages I get with Face ID. How much time does it take to put my finger on the sensor? Is this one move really too much effort? Can't think so.

Without Face ID and Touch ID under glass instead, the front of the phone would only need a small notch on top of the phone for the front camera (I would place it centered on top). This design would come very close to the "perfect" phone with only a display on the front. And then, please, not more than two cameras on the back, the fastest SoC available on the market inside and I would buy it right away!

I am not sure if Apple not implementing in-display touch-ID is because they couldn't get the technology working in time, or because Apple is going all-in on Face ID.

Personally, I am leaning towards the latter. I think people misinterpret FaceID. The idea isn't to spend time analyzing how it works or whether it's slower than TouchID or not. The idea is that it blurs the perception of needing authentication at all to unlock your phone.

I think what Apple was going for was using FaceID to take care of all the security stuff behind the scenes so you don't have too. It removes having to think about authenticating to access something because faceID has already detected that it is you.
What you're left with is a phone that is as easy to access as one without a passcode. No longer do you have to go through security checks because it is all done automatically. It makes sense when you realise that Apple aims to make technology more accessible and personal, not necessarily the most powerful.

Conversely, in-screen Touch-ID still has the same issue of you needing to consciously place your finger on a fixed point on the display, without the indentation of the physical Touch ID to serve as a guide.

I also suspect that Apple is planning to do more with Face ID down the road. For example, I was playing around with this app (Pageturn) which lets you turn pages by making facial expressions on my iPad, and I wonder if we might see Apple do something like this down the road (let you control your phone using facial and physical gestures).

I am also betting that Apple Glasses (when they get released) will similarly use Face ID to let you control your glasses via gestures. Maybe that's why Face ID is on the phone, to serve as a testbed before Apple rolls it out to other devices. That's the thing with Apple's product roadmap. Certain announcements and features make much more sense when thinking about what Apple will likely unveil the following years.

As for the "ugly" hump on the back of the phone, my guess is that most people will just slap a case on their phone and the camera bump will be a non-issue for them. It may get a little more awkward for people like myself who don't use a case with their phone though.

 

[sartorius]

Holy hell that is ugly.

Apple can't make a good looking phone any more.

 

[amaze1499]

Please let it be a rumor that never comes true.

 

[Phoenix1000]

It’s ok to be picky and critique, but some of you really just hate Apple for other reasons which makes you just hate everything they do, even if it’s irrational. It’s kinda sad. I’m glad that I can use my devices happily and freely.

I don't hate Apple, not at all. Just the opposite is true: I really like Apple. I have 10 devices in my household bought over the years. And my first MacBook Pro fascinated me unbelievably. It was the perfect laptop in every aspect. And I nearly felt the same amount of fascination with the iPhone 4S. But especially regarding the development of the iPhones over the last years, the amount of excitement with every new generation is ever decreasing.

And why do I criticize this? From my point of view, the absolute will and the striving of Steve Jobs for the best technical solution in the best possible design ("reality distortion field") has made Apple become great and one of the best companies on the planet. But as someone has already written above: Now it seems, the blueprint Steve has left to Apple is used up and the spirit that Apple once made great is beginning to disappear. I'm totally convinced, that such a design - if it is really valid - would have never been decided in Steve times. Never!

iPhone sales are declining already and with this design, the downturn will increase, I'm pretty sure.

And finally: Do I use my Apple devices "happily and freely"? Of course I do, otherwise I would not have bought them!

 

[Goompa]

How can you make that statement based on something that we don’t even know is legit and if it is looks like some chassis mold for a CNC machine? It’s not like this is what the back of the phone will look like. Good grief.
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Why? Because the iPhone doesn’t have useless curved edges?

Yikes.
We DO KNOW Apple's been left behind in design. It's frustrating how people are getting used to these (how can I say this?) OUTDATED/UGLY designs. The ecosystem excuse eg. sounds like "I don't want to change something that's not the best for the better".
I'm not doing weird stuff (in case someone's paranoia comes from the spy fuss thing around), so the GALAXY S10+ is the way to go. Best design overall BY now.

 

[newyorksole]

I don't hate Apple, not at all. Just the opposite is true: I really like Apple. I have 10 devices in my household bought over the years. And my first MacBook Pro fascinated me unbelievably. It was the perfect laptop in every aspect. And I nearly felt the same amount of fascination with the iPhone 4S. But especially regarding the development of the iPhones over the last years, the amount of excitement with every new generation is ever decreasing.

And why do I criticize this? From my point of view, the absolute will and the striving of Steve Jobs for the best technical solution in the best possible design ("reality distortion field") has made Apple become great and one of the best companies on the planet. But as someone has already written above: Now it seems, the blueprint Steve has left to Apple is used up and the spirit that Apple once made great is beginning to disappear. I'm totally convinced, that such a design - if it is really valid - would have never been decided in Steve times. Never!

iPhone sales are declining already and with this design, the downturn will increase, I'm pretty sure.

And finally: Do I use my Apple devices "happily and freely"? Of course I do, otherwise I would not have bought them!

I totally get where you’re coming from, but the thing is...

Apple was not perfect under Steve Jobs and we will NEVER know what Steve would/wouldn’t do in terms of these products. That’s just the reality.

Steve being gone has really altered the way a lot of you Apple fans think. You keep thinking about what Steve would/wouldn’t do and bash Apple. When the fact is.... There’s only so much that can be done with the iPhone.

Apple is still following the blueprint Steve left. How many things changed from iPhone 4 to iPhone 4S? From iPhone 3G to 3GS? Apple is still following the same formula from the original iPhones.

They can’t reinvent the wheel every year with every iPhone. I’m typing from my iPhone XS Max right now and can easily say it’s the best iPhone I’ve ever used. I have zero issue with it. Nicely designed, crafted and operates smooth like butter.

I understand people complaining about price, but other than that.... Idk what more people want from Apple.

 

[KOTN91]

Wow that camera is horrific. I’ll be keeping my XR a long time. Would rather have a nice looking phone than a slightly better camera. The camera has been good enough since the 4 or 4S

 

[ValO]

Tim is gonna make the same phone four times just like he did with the iPhone 6.

It was 3 years in a row actually. iPhone X was a new design and was introduced next to the iPhone 8.

 

[magicschoolbus]

Holding out for the 6 camera design.

 

[MrJM]

I don’t care about the camera. But no USB-C = no buy. Your move, Apple.

Can I ask why this is such a big of a deal? I’ve seen a few people saying this. What does usb-c offer that lightning doesn’t?

I rarely plug my iPhone into anything. I would prefer a lightning to usb c cable in the box though for my MacBook for when I do though!

 

[The Game 161]

Yikes.
We DO KNOW Apple's been left behind in design. It's frustrating how people are getting used to these (how can I say this?) OUTDATED/UGLY designs. The ecosystem excuse eg. sounds like "I don't want to change something that's not the best for the better".
I'm not doing weird stuff (in case someone's paranoia comes from the spy fuss thing around), so the GALAXY S10+ is the way to go. Best design overall BY now.

As great as S10 is the iPhone is still the benchmark for a complete phone experience

It’s why I’m switching back to my max as my daily driver. Design is just that a design..how a phone works is more important

 

[jm001]

People still going on about the notch; it's like beating a dead horse with a stick. If there was no notch then you couldn't have the cameras for Face ID, which is more secure and consistently reliable than the fingerprint sensor, in that area. The notch does divide that area into notifications on the left and the control centre on the right. It's either the notch or back to a slim forehead (which people will again criticize as the phone not being "all screen").

 

[roeiz]

only excuse for this design is to be the best camera of all competition by FAR.
which it will NOT be (especially with a lousy x3 zoom).

 

[juiz206]

I was also hoping for the new iPhones to adopt the same design language as the latest iPad Pros. I was never more excited for the design of the iPhone as I was when the 4 was introduced. 5 was even better and is still my favorite overall. Design and form factor aside, I am looking forward to a wider angle lens if that is indeed what the third lens is for. Hopefully that will extend to the video focal length which is almost always too close.

that is only gonna happen in 2020. 3 year gap.

 

[-BigMac-]

TBH not that psyched about this one if the leaked image is anything to go off..

Purchaser of every gen. since 3G

 

[BigBoy2018]

Love that color. Apple would probably call that 'Space Metallic Dung'.

 

[first-to-tea]

SlashLeaks posts an image that is alleged to be iPhone XI and XI Max molds for 3rd party case production.

These physical molds are presumably produced by case manufacturers based on leaked schematics to test early cases for the upcoming 2019 iPhones.

The front design is also shown on a Weibo post which may have been the original source for the images:

The square grouping of the triple-camera is consistent with other rumors and images that have leaked from the supply chain regarding Apple's upcoming iPhones.

Article Link: Alleged iPhone XI and XI Max Molds Show Triple Camera Layout

Apple on the complete go slow. Protruding cameras like huge pimples on my a-s-s. One year can Apple f-off the protruding cameras for good? There’s space to do this, thin out the display, thin out the camera. Do something custom and ground breaking for once this decade. The Apple company deserves to die, they aren’t doing anything that impresses many these days, and rightly so other companies are coming in to take precedence.

 

[MrJM]

For 2019 I absolutely agree. However, late 2020, into 2021 is a different story. Just left Three for EE, due to poor 4G coverage.

I did the same 6 months ago and couldn’t be happier!

 

[The Game 161]

Apple on the complete go slow. Protruding cameras like huge pimples on my a-s-s. One year can Apple f-off the protruding cameras for good? There’s space to do this, thin out the display, thin out the camera. Do something custom and ground breaking for once this decade. The Apple company deserves to die, they aren’t doing anything that impresses many these days, and rightly so other companies are coming in to take precedence.

Very foolish statement

They deserve to die? There’s a reason why people always come back to apple and stay with them..the user experience is unmatched

 

[klky]

that is only gonna happen in 2020. 3 year gap.

Just as well, I'm in no hurry. Admittedly, the last few iPhones I've bought have not been out of necessity but rather from wanting something new. Unfortunately, that "something new" is becoming less and less obvious.

 

[Virinprew]

Stop. At the time, usb-c wasn’t a thing. So the choice was ****** micro-usb (fragile, clunky, only can be plugged in one way) or usb-a (big, can only be plugged in one way). Lightning is way better than micro-usb, so it was a great idea.

Yea right. Stop indeed. Stop moving with the world and stay stagnant in your timeline. How long have we had usb-c? Apple released the first usb-c with MacBook in March 2015. Sure the lightning was introduced in September 2012 with iPhone 5. But now it’s 2019. Your argument has been outdated for 4 years now. Stop defending Apple.

 

[ValO]

Yea right. Stop indeed. Stop moving with the world and stay stagnant in your timeline. How long have we had usb-c? Apple released the first usb-c with MacBook in March 2015. Sure the lightning was introduced in September 2012 with iPhone 5. But now it’s 2019. Your argument has been outdated for 4 years now. Stop defending Apple.

But why is usb-c so important for you?