Alleged iPhone XI and XI Max Molds Show Triple Camera Layout

[ISprainedMyUvula]

Anyone else wonder why the Apple logo is halfway up the back on the Max, and 2/3 the way up on the XI?

Could there possibly be something behind there, and it's just been placed in a spot that's most ergonomic for both?

 

[Juicy Box]

One could argue that none of the iPhones look like an Apple design since before the iPhone 6.

The only thing is...  did design them.

Sadly, this is true.

It just seems like Apple's iPhone designs have lost their uniqueness starting with the iPhone 6.

 

[Gogeta-Blue]

so how much was the flagship iPhone with 2 cameras lens?
now you can add another 300 easily, just because it has an extra len
if the iPhone was 1000 or 1200 now is going to be 1300 or 1500
is ok guys, is not so bad , we know that foldable phones cost over 1800



so apple doesn't care so much for the price now
because the competition has higher prices
yes, but also better specs, new design etc

I will stick to my 6s like glue, I will only move on when my 6s run out of updates
maybe I will buy a new phone if they don't look as big as an ipad
lol

I really like the SE but we all know what apple did, they killed their own phone because they want to sale more expensive ones

so if apple makes a new SE then I will buy a new phone, but we all know that is not going to happen
soon we will reach the 1,000 lowest price limit
now who wants to upgrade in the yearly basis?
mr cook is the best

 

[jamisonbaines]

Wish they would do a nexus 6p inspired design and stuff all their cameras at the top.

 

[Phoenix1000]

You asked for “just one advantage” in a snarky manner as if there isn’t even one and I gave you four. Yet you only criticized one. So I take it you agree the other three are clear advantages over TouchID?

As to security, when TouchID was tricked the Internet was flooded with people saying it’s not secure. My point is legitimate considering people claim you can fool TouchID with some tape, crazy glue and silly putty.

Nobody has hacked FaceID yet, despite many sophisticated attempts.

To be honest, for me maybe the point with the gloves would seem valid, but I nearly don't use them. Our winters are not sooo cold.

Face ID is more secure? Perhaps, perhaps not. I read articles, where twins could fool the system and 3D masks too. But my point is: I never had any security problem with any of my Touch ID iPhones in my life. So it is definitely secure enough for my needs.

And as I wrote before, for me the one single move of my finger to the Touch ID when needed is not a physical problem. I'm not that old and I generally don't consider it an advantage, if this small move with Face ID now also has become obsolete. That does not knock me from my feet.

As said before: Compared to the disadvantages like the huge notch and the loss of the status bar I still cannot see an advantage FOR ME. But if folks like Face ID, that's fine with me. If Apple will really bring out a tuned iPhone 8 with a fast SoC, that's enough for me. I don't care very much about cameras in Phones, because regardless of the number of lenses they have, photo quality is far inferior to my Canon cameras I take for shootings. So iPhone 8 with a really fast SoC and enough memory is all right for me. It will not lead to excitement, but it will do the job. So Apple please make it happen for the folks, that don't like Face ID.

And if the Face ID fans all buy the new iPhones with a huge notch on the front and a giant camera bump on the back, this is fine too. Fine for them and fine for me, cause I saved some money. Would I buy a top iPhone with Touch ID under glass, nice design and not more than two cameras on the back, even if it would be expensive? Sure I would! With great pleasure and excitement! But if I have to choose between an - in my eyes - ugly Face ID huge notch/giant camera bump top line iPhone and a solid iPhone 8 with at least more computing performance, my choice is clear.

But what I clearly see, is that Apples competitors are getting in front in both, technology and design. And Apples iPhone sales decline. For me, that is no wonder. Sure, Apple cannot reinvent the iPhone with every generation, but this is not the point. Apples competitors provide more innovations than Apple and this was not the case in the past. If this development continuous or even gets accelerated by the "help" of the next let's say "strange" iPhone generation, it could become a problem for all Apple users in the long run.

 

[Gogeta-Blue]

leak pictures of the iPhone 20 XS
this is how is going to look like

Tim Cook voice
"the best iPhone ever by far"

 

[cmaier]

To be honest, for me maybe the point with the gloves would seem valid, but I nearly don't use them. Our winters are not sooo cold.

Face ID is more secure? Perhaps, perhaps not. I read articles, where twins could fool the system and 3D masks too. But my point is: I never had any security problem with any of my Touch ID iPhones in my life. So it is definitely secure enough for my needs.

And as I wrote before, for me the one single move of my finger to the Touch ID when needed is not a physical problem. I'm not that old and I generally don't consider it an advantage, if this small move with Face ID now also has become obsolete. That does not knock me from my feet.

As said before: Compared to the disadvantages like the huge notch and the loss of the status bar I still cannot see an advantage FOR ME. But if folks like Face ID, that's fine with me. If Apple will really bring out a tuned iPhone 8 with a fast SoC, that's enough for me. I don't care very much about cameras in Phones, because regardless of the number of lenses they have, photo quality is far inferior to my Canon cameras I take for shootings. So iPhone 8 with a really fast SoC and enough memory is all right for me. It will not lead to excitement, but it will do the job. So Apple please make it happen for the folks, that don't like Face ID.

And if the Face ID fans all buy the new iPhones with a huge notch on the front and a giant camera bump on the back, this is fine too. Fine for them and fine for me, cause I saved some money. Would I buy a top iPhone with Touch ID under glass, nice design and not more than two cameras on the back, even if it would be expensive? Sure I would! With great pleasure and excitement! But if I have to choose between an - in my eyes - ugly Face ID huge notch/giant camera bump top line iPhone and a solid iPhone 8 with at least more computing performance, my choice is clear.

But what I clearly see, is that Apples competitors are getting in front in both, technology and design. And Apples iPhone sales decline. For me, that is no wonder. Sure, Apple cannot reinvent the iPhone with every generation, but this is not the point. Apples competitors provide more innovations than Apple and this was not the case in the past. If this development continuous or even gets accelerated by the "help" of the next let's say "strange" iPhone generation, it could become a problem for all Apple users in the long run.

How is the notch a disadvantage? You get free extra space for time and network status. It’s more space, not less.
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leak pictures of the iPhone 20 XS
this is how is going to look like

Tim Cook is the best, he is doing an outstanding job

You know any professional photographers who only use one lens?
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To be honest, for me maybe the point with the gloves would seem valid, but I nearly don't use them. Our winters are not sooo cold.

Face ID is more secure? Perhaps, perhaps not. I read articles, where twins could fool the system and 3D masks too. But my point is: I never had any security problem with any of my Touch ID iPhones in my life. So it is definitely secure enough for my needs.

And as I wrote before, for me the one single move of my finger to the Touch ID when needed is not a physical problem. I'm not that old and I generally don't consider it an advantage, if this small move with Face ID now also has become obsolete. That does not knock me from my feet.

As said before: Compared to the disadvantages like the huge notch and the loss of the status bar I still cannot see an advantage FOR ME. But if folks like Face ID, that's fine with me. If Apple will really bring out a tuned iPhone 8 with a fast SoC, that's enough for me. I don't care very much about cameras in Phones, because regardless of the number of lenses they have, photo quality is far inferior to my Canon cameras I take for shootings. So iPhone 8 with a really fast SoC and enough memory is all right for me. It will not lead to excitement, but it will do the job. So Apple please make it happen for the folks, that don't like Face ID.

And if the Face ID fans all buy the new iPhones with a huge notch on the front and a giant camera bump on the back, this is fine too. Fine for them and fine for me, cause I saved some money. Would I buy a top iPhone with Touch ID under glass, nice design and not more than two cameras on the back, even if it would be expensive? Sure I would! With great pleasure and excitement! But if I have to choose between an - in my eyes - ugly Face ID huge notch/giant camera bump top line iPhone and a solid iPhone 8 with at least more computing performance, my choice is clear.

But what I clearly see, is that Apples competitors are getting in front in both, technology and design. And Apples iPhone sales decline. For me, that is no wonder. Sure, Apple cannot reinvent the iPhone with every generation, but this is not the point. Apples competitors provide more innovations than Apple and this was not the case in the past. If this development continuous or even gets accelerated by the "help" of the next let's say "strange" iPhone generation, it could become a problem for all Apple users in the long run.

Design is not what it looks like. It’s how it works. If Samsung is ahead in “design” there must be a huge demand for phones that fall apart.

 

[trims]

For 2019 I absolutely agree. However, late 2020, into 2021 is a different story. Just left Three for EE, due to poor 4G coverage.

You should join Docomo (Japan's 4G network). Had a 4G SIM there recently. Rock solid coverage everywhere, right out to rural areas and even in all the train tunnels. Stunning compared to UK.

 

[I7guy]

To be honest, for me maybe the point with the gloves would seem valid, but I nearly don't use them. Our winters are not sooo cold.

Face ID is more secure? Perhaps, perhaps not. I read articles, where twins could fool the system and 3D masks too. But my point is: I never had any security problem with any of my Touch ID iPhones in my life. So it is definitely secure enough for my needs.

And as I wrote before, for me the one single move of my finger to the Touch ID when needed is not a physical problem. I'm not that old and I generally don't consider it an advantage, if this small move with Face ID now also has become obsolete. That does not knock me from my feet.

As said before: Compared to the disadvantages like the huge notch and the loss of the status bar I still cannot see an advantage FOR ME. But if folks like Face ID, that's fine with me. If Apple will really bring out a tuned iPhone 8 with a fast SoC, that's enough for me. I don't care very much about cameras in Phones, because regardless of the number of lenses they have, photo quality is far inferior to my Canon cameras I take for shootings. So iPhone 8 with a really fast SoC and enough memory is all right for me. It will not lead to excitement, but it will do the job. So Apple please make it happen for the folks, that don't like Face ID.

And if the Face ID fans all buy the new iPhones with a huge notch on the front and a giant camera bump on the back, this is fine too. Fine for them and fine for me, cause I saved some money. Would I buy a top iPhone with Touch ID under glass, nice design and not more than two cameras on the back, even if it would be expensive? Sure I would! With great pleasure and excitement! But if I have to choose between an - in my eyes - ugly Face ID huge notch/giant camera bump top line iPhone and a solid iPhone 8 with at least more computing performance, my choice is clear.

But what I clearly see, is that Apples competitors are getting in front in both, technology and design. And Apples iPhone sales decline. For me, that is no wonder. Sure, Apple cannot reinvent the iPhone with every generation, but this is not the point. Apples competitors provide more innovations than Apple and this was not the case in the past. If this development continuous or even gets accelerated by the "help" of the next let's say "strange" iPhone generation, it could become a problem for all Apple users in the long run.

"But what I clearly see, is that Apples competitors are getting in front in both, technology and design. And Apples iPhone sales decline"

I don't see Apple's competitors getting in front. These competitors are designing phones with much worse compromises than the notch. Anything that moves on a phone is more likely to break, that includes sliding parts and pop-up cameras with electronics.

As far as iphone sales decline, have you seen the reports Samsung's sales of Galaxy phones? Sure other manufactures may be outselling Apple, but their price point is lower.

As far as innovations with Apple's competition, I see iteration and not innovation on the whole. To take 10 or so manufacturers and say that as a group they have more innovation than Apple, is not apples to apples (pun intended). If you want to take one manufacturer, eg Samsung, they are just iterating and not innovating. Even the under the display fingerprint reader isn't theirs.

So while one is entitled to their opinion, I for one do not share much of the sentiment in this post.

 

[Gogeta-Blue]

You know any professional photographers who only use one lens?

ok if that is the case then release a lower price iPhone with one or 2 lenses, not everyone that uses an iPhone is a "professional photographer"

I have a phantom 4 pro drone and it takes awesome pictures with only one len, I will have to contact DJI and tell them to upgrade their drones and add more lenses



yes I do understand what you saying and is true in a way but that also will increase the price on the already expensive unit

once again apple doesn't give the user any option
this is what we have take it or leave it

just like they did with the SE
is not what the costumer wants, is what we want to sell

apple philosophy, "they will have no other choice but to buy it"
no wonder many users are moving to android

3 lenses yes it looks cool , yes it might take better pictures
is apple going to sell it for the same price, I pretty much doubt it
so expect an increase in the price

you guys are free to buy it

if you really are a "professional photographer' then you will have camera that is more expensive than an iphone
yes the iPhone takes very good, outstanding pictures
but I guess a more expensive camera can take better pictures
after all we are talking about "professional photographers" here

is not that apple is milking the cow and they are simply trying to justify the new high price that is coming

then you will hear people talking, the new iPhone cost more,
fans boys will say, yes but it has an extra lens, that's why it cost 500 dollars more
lol


the best iPhone ever
sorry but more like
the most expensive iPhone ever

apple adds an ssd to a Mac and just for that is 1000 dollars more

 

[I7guy]

ok if that is the case then release a lower price iPhone with one or 2 lenses, not everyone that uses an iPhone is a "professional photographer"

Apple did just that...it's called an iphone Xr.

I have a phantom 4 pro drone and it takes awesome pictures with only one len, I will have to contact DJI and tell them to upgrade their drones and add more lenses



yes I do understand what you saying and is true in a way but that also will increase the price on the already expensive unit

once again apple doesn't give the user any option
this is what we have take it or leave it

just like they did with the SE
is not what the costumer wants, is what we want to sell

apple philosophy, "they will have no other choice but to buy it"
no wonder many users are moving to android

3 lenses yes it looks cool , yes it might take better pictures
is apple going to sell it for the same price, I pretty much doubt it
so expect an increase in the price

you guys are free to buy it

if you really are a "professional photographer' then you will have camera that is more expensive than an iphone
yes the iPhone takes very good, outstanding pictures
but I guess a more expensive camera can take better pictures
after all we are talking about "professional photographers" here

is not that apple is milking the cow and they are simply trying to justify the new high price that is coming

then you will hear people talking, the new iPhone cost more,
fans boys will say, yes but it has an extra lens, that's why it cost 500 dollars more
lol


the best iPhone ever
sorry but more like
the most expensive iPhone ever

apple adds an ssd to a Mac and just for that is 1000 dollars more

The cameras are a big deal on phones in today's mobile market and Apple, depending on how you view it, has to either lead or keep up. Multiple lenses (and computational photography), like OLED, is where it's all headed. As far as the price point of the iphone, they are not the most expensive phone on the market.

 

[macfacts]

Apple adds more lenses while others are innovating with things like combining better software with the camera hardware. Things like night sight and hybrid zoom.

 

[I7guy]

Apple adds more lenses while others are innovating with things like combining better software with the camera hardware. Things like night sight and hybrid zoom.

You mean the competition forces one to hold the camera steady for 6 seconds in order to take a night scene. Contrast that with dynamic hdr on video and smart hdr? Seems like apple is combining better software and better hardware to produce better results.

It's easy to pick a straw-man argument apart with another straw-man.

 

[cmaier]

ok if that is the case then release a lower price iPhone with one or 2 lenses, not everyone that uses an iPhone is a "professional photographer"

I have a phantom 4 pro drone and it takes awesome pictures with only one len, I will have to contact DJI and tell them to upgrade their drones and add more lenses



yes I do understand what you saying and is true in a way but that also will increase the price on the already expensive unit

once again apple doesn't give the user any option
this is what we have take it or leave it

just like they did with the SE
is not what the costumer wants, is what we want to sell

apple philosophy, "they will have no other choice but to buy it"
no wonder many users are moving to android

3 lenses yes it looks cool , yes it might take better pictures
is apple going to sell it for the same price, I pretty much doubt it
so expect an increase in the price

you guys are free to buy it

if you really are a "professional photographer' then you will have camera that is more expensive than an iphone
yes the iPhone takes very good, outstanding pictures
but I guess a more expensive camera can take better pictures
after all we are talking about "professional photographers" here

is not that apple is milking the cow and they are simply trying to justify the new high price that is coming

then you will hear people talking, the new iPhone cost more,
fans boys will say, yes but it has an extra lens, that's why it cost 500 dollars more
lol


the best iPhone ever
sorry but more like
the most expensive iPhone ever

apple adds an ssd to a Mac and just for that is 1000 dollars more

I’m sorry. Could you maybe rephrase all that? And add more details?

 

[The Game 161]

Apple adds more lenses while others are innovating with things like combining better software with the camera hardware. Things like night sight and hybrid zoom.

Who’s to say a night sight comparison isn’t coming? These new cameras seem a comeback to what the comp are doing...

 

[Azzin]

Im glad that the 5.8” iPhone is getting the same camera. I hated carrying around the 7+ just for the dual cameras.

I’m actually kinda with you now (have always had the Plus models).

I’d really like the Max to b ether size of the X-RAY, that’s perfect IMHO.

 

[strategicthinke]

Okay, please tell me at least ONE advantage? Only one, please...
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Quite simple: No need for such a huge ugly notch. Touch ID works perfectly, very fast and I don't have to stare on my phone for unlocking it. So what's the use of Face ID? Animoji? Lol

The phone simply works as if it didn’t even have a passcode. Your passwords are instantly loaded. Touch ID requires an extra step that, believe me, starts to bother once you get used to the feeling of freedoms of Face ID.
Quick question, do you use a phone with Face ID, by any chance?!

 

[Gogeta-Blue]

I’m sorry. Could you maybe rephrase all that? And add more details?

what more details do you want?
I think I said enough

I know you just trying to be funny
I know what sarcasm is

some things can be answer with a yes or a no
other answers are more complex and require a better explanation
if you don't like the answers, well don't ask the questions

my point was simple, the problem is not that apple is going to add another len
the 3rd len is cool, yes it will take better videos and pictures, hooray

the problem is that by doing that the price is going to increase a bit more
is painfully obvious

if they don't increase the price then is all good and I have no objections your honor

many professional photographers have more than one camera
I'm sure a professional photographer will also use his own camera even if the photographer has an iPhone with 3 lens
so the iPhone will be like a good camera to them but not their best camera
so I'm sorry I don't think your reason is good enough to convince me

I don't think a professional photographer like you call it, is going to buy an iPhone just to use it as a camera
unless he is a broke photographer, if he likes quality and he has money he will go for the best camera he can possibly afford

yes the iPhone can also be use as a camera and is really good
but a class A high quality camera it has to be better

also is not the camera is the photographer
is not the car is the driver
is not the arrow is the Indian
lol

the best camera is the one that you always have with you
granted
the iPhone camera will be very good but there are many awesome cameras out there for real professional photographers. with more zoom and many more features

I don't have any problem if you are exited about the 3rd len
I honestly don't care, unless they make an iPhone SE with a 3rd len

cheers

 

[cmaier]

what more details do you want?
I think I said enough

my point was simple, the problem is not that apple is going to add another len
the 3rd len is cool, yes it will take better videos and pictures

the problem is that by doing that the price is going to increase bit more
is painfully obvious

if they don't increase the price then is all good and I have no objections

many professional photographers have more than one camera
I'm sure a professional photographer will also use his own camera even if the photographer has an iPhone with 3 lens
so I'm sorry I don't think your reason is good enough to convince me

I don't think a professional photographer like you call it, is going to buy an iPhone just to use it as a camera
unless he is a broke photographer, if he like quality and he has money he will go for the best camera he can possibly afford

yes the iPhone can also be use as a camera and is real good
but a class a high quality camera it has to be better

the best camera is the one that you always have with you
granted, the iPhone camera will be very good but there are many awesome cameras out there for real professional photographers. with more zoom and many more features

I don't have any problem if you are exited about the 3rd len
I honestly don't care, unless they make an iPhone SE with a 3rd len

Okay, I think I see what you are saying. But I’m not sure you’ve fully explained yourself. Can you give me more information on your thoughts about phone photography?

 

[Kung gu]

Sadly, this is true.

It just seems like Apple's iPhone designs have lost their uniqueness starting with the iPhone 6.

it was brought back with iphone X.

 

[ValO]

Why? Because I will be buying a new MacBook. And it only has USB-C. This is the result of Apple's stupid decision to abruptly switch to USB-C on MacBook without any legacy ports. So I guess you should ask Apple and not me "Why USB-C is so important to you (Apple)?"

Because Apple will include a USB-C to lightning cable and a usb-c charger with the iPhones in 2019. At least that is rumored. So you will be able to connect it to your MacBook with usb-c.

 

[Gogeta-Blue]

Okay, I think I see what you are saying. But I’m not sure you’ve fully explained yourself. Can you give me more information on your thoughts about phone photography?

sorry I'm done, I know what you are trying to do
we are done here thanks for coming

 

[cmaier]

sorry I'm done, I know what you are trying to do
we are done here thanks for coming

Huh? What’d I do other than ask for more of your insights?

 

[yossi]

They killed it with the SE design. Should have kept that with an edge to edge screen

 

[Liketheredbaron]

The other day I was in a meeting and my boss's Mac died. He didn't have his charger.

Of the dozen people there, I was the only one with an Android phone, and I was therefore the only one who could help - my Samsung charger's USBC got the Mac back up and running.

Sad that Apple products aren't compatible with each other anymore.

[doublepost=1555892243][/doublepost]What do you mean “ sad that apple products aren’t compatible with each other anymore?” We have NEVER been able to charge iPhones with MacBook/pro chargers and vice Versa. Up until the past two years the rest of the industry has been doing the same thing. You act as if Apple has suddenly created a huge incompatibility within their ecosystem. The only incompatibility that Apple has introduced has been by continuing to bundle lightning to usb a cables and chargers with iPhones. However, this is only annoying if you own a 2016 or newer Mac. Most Macs have a lifespan of3 to 5 years, hence their vintage and obsolete programs. So by using that logic, usb c based macs are only just beginning to outpace usb a based macs. This is why there are multiple rumors that apple will start bundling Lightning to usb c cables and chargers with the next generation iPhones. With this change, the current annoyance of charging your iPhone from your Mac will be fixed. also, most major computer manufacturers do not also design and produce their own smartphones.