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You keep bringing up the mate 9. It’s camera Sensors were in the middle of the device and looked like a flat wide pill. The p20 looks like a copy of the iPhone X and nothing like the mate 9 from the front or back. The notch and rear camera placement are a dead giveaway.
Have another look. It seems to be going over your head.

You specificaly answered that the P20 Pro is a copy because is used a two vertical lenses in a pill shaped bump.
The Mate 9 already had two vertical lenses in a pill shaped bump a year earlier so it invalidates you claim.
We are talking about camera arrangements here not overall designs. But your argument is weak so you have to deflect start talking about other things.

If we look at the overall situation. With the next iphone Apple will supposedly be using a similar camera arrangement that Hauwei Mate 20 Pro has only they will place it on the edge of the phone. They basically did the same thing with iphone x's camera arrangement vs the Mate 9.

I posted a picture to support my claim, if a picture can’t explain it, once again words won’t help you.
It just artificial render, it doesn't explain anything. I can very easily do the reverse, post P30 Pro renders and serve your own replies back to you. What would you do in that case?

The most telling thing is that even when challenged you are totally incapable of supporting you claim. This shows really well how valuable your opinion is.
 
No it's not. The Lightning connector in iphones is capable of USB 2.0 performance for example.

USB-C is a shape. Lightning is also a protocol which is more-or-less a wrapper around USB that adds additional features and moved processing and conversation hardware to the cable. It's speed is capped by the version of USB implemented in the device. There are Lightning devices that support USB 3 for data piping.

USB-C can be anything from USB 2.0 to 3.2 and have one of many different video-outs or other alternate supports. Most phones with USB-C do not support USB 3+.
 
USB-C is a shape. Lightning is also a protocol which is more-or-less a wrapper around USB that adds additional features and moved processing and conversation hardware to the cable. It's speed is capped by the version of USB implemented in the device. There are Lightning devices that support USB 3 for data piping.

USB-C can be anything from USB 2.0 to 3.2 and have one of many different video-outs or other alternate supports. Most phones with USB-C do not support USB 3+.
Yeah, I already knew USB C was more flexible/capable.
For example Lightning can't do USB 3.1, 3.2 or thunderbolt and it doesn't support as high power output as USB C.
Also phones like Note 9 or Huawei Mate 20, P20, P30 etc. also have support for desktop mode when connected with a cable to a TV or a Monitor.

Lightning's main advantage vs Micro USB was that it's reservable so you don't have to plug it in a certain way.
 
You specificaly answered that the P20 Pro is a copy because is used a two vertical lenses in a pill shaped bump.
The Mate 9 already had two vertical lenses in a pill shaped bump a year earlier so it invalidates you claim.
We are talking about camera arrangements here not overall designs. But your argument is weak so you have to deflect start talking about other things.

If we look at the overall situation. With the next iphone Apple will supposedly be using a similar camera arrangement that Hauwei Mate 20 Pro has only they will place it on the edge of the phone. They basically did the same thing with iphone x's camera arrangement vs the Mate 9.


It just artificial render, it doesn't explain anything. I can very easily do the reverse, post P30 Pro renders and serve your own replies back to you. What would you do in that case?

The most telling thing is that even when challenged you are totally incapable of supporting you claim. This shows really well how valuable your opinion is.

No the mate 9 camera sensor is to wide and flat to be considered pill shaped bump. If you look at either the iPhone X or p 20 it’s a much narrower design. “Two camera sensors in a pill shaped bump” is what I said, you can do back up and see for yourself.

Does the p20 look like an iPhone X or a mate 9?
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iPhone X
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Mate 9
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Weak argument? That the p20 copied the iPhone X design. The pictures are clear as day.



Are you going to answer?
 
I don't think the iPhone X design is going to change much from year to year. We already know that people are holding on to their smartphones (or at least iPhones) for longer periods of time. It doesn't make sense to keep radically changing the design of your phone every year, when your users are not upgrading that often.

I won't be surprised if Apple keeps the basic design largely unchanged for up to 5 years. They seem to be okay with the basic idea of the notch and a protruding camera in the very least. Face ID is definitely here to stay. Plus Apple did say that this would be their template for the next ten years or something along that line.
 
LoL it looks like your strategy is to to bombard this thread with pointless pictures.

Pointless to you since you keep ignoring them.
Pointless pictures prove your argument has no merit.


Are you going to answer the question or just deflect some more?
 
Pointless to you since you keep ignoring them.
Pointless pictures prove your argument has no merit.
Yes pointless.

Are you going to answer the question or just deflect some more?
You deflected first, so I'm not playing you game.
I showed respect form the beginning(and concentered on your exact words) but you don't deserve any.
 
I think this is a smart move by Apple if they do it.

In simple terms they have to find ways to get people to upgrade. A faster processor or thinner body or louder speakers etc won't mean much to anyone with even an 6S onwards - iPhones have pretty much all been great for years now.Those with maybe an 8 or X will be particularly hard to tempt to upgrade.

Furthermore photography with phones has continued to grow. Google spotted this trend and it is something that Cook either missed or didn't realise the importance of. Anyone who has used the night mode on android phones or seen the proliferation of cheap smartphones with dual and now triple lenses able to give a shallow depth of field look to photos (photography enthusiasts might look down on it but I've seen it delight so many people) knows this is an area that brings pleasure to users and Android phones allow access to at far cheaper prices. And Google even does it with one lens. (Note too how google gets unlimited, yes unlimited, cloud storage for photos and it's obvious they grasp the centrality of photography to mobile phones.)

When one considers that even if a customer pays the price asked for an iPhone 8 despite it's high quality lens, despite its amazing CPU, despite its beautiful screen, they would then have to use a third party app to get that bokeh effect, well it speaks volumes as to how Apple underestimated this trend, both in terms of software and hardware. Reserving it only for the top most models won't cut it any longer. If these lenses are an indication that Apple has woken up to this then I'm very pleased.
 
Yes pointless.


You deflected first, so I'm not playing you game.
I showed respect form the beginning(and concentered on your exact words) but you don't deserve any.

We were discussing how Huawei’s p series smartphone copied the iPhone X poorly.

You brought up the mate 9 which shows just how much Huawei changed their design to mimic the iPhone X with the p20. You keep claiming Huawei didn’t.

So answer the question:
Does the p20 look like the iPhone X or the mate 9?

Its not a game, it’s a very simple question to answer With the pictures posted above.

I will wait.
 
We were discussing how Huawei’s p series smartphone copied the iPhone X poorly.
No we weren't, we were specifically taking about the camera style on the back of the phones.

You brought up the mate 9 which shows just how much Huawei changed their design to mimic the iPhone X with the p20. You keep claiming Huawei didn’t.

No I didn't do that, you are now just making stuff up. I mention the Mate 9 for a very specific reason which you are ignoring right now.

Its not a game, it’s a very simple question to answer With the pictures posted above.

It definitely is to you. You sound like a really untrustworthy guy taking in consideration that in your last posts you only tried to twist what I wrote and meant.
You don't deserve anything. Have a nice day.

PS. I know I'm throwing you a big bone by not playing your game and I also know that that's all somebody like you needs.
 
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No we weren't, we were specifically taking about the camera style on the back of the phones.



No I didn't do that, you are now just making stuff up. I mention the Mate 9 for a very specific reason you are ignoring right now.

I was talking about how how Huawei copied the iPhone X camera. Go up and check for yourself.

You brought up the mate 9 for a specific reason? You brought it up and it illustrated just how much Huawei copied the iPhone X, even if you hadn’t intended to do so.

Made up? The post are all above you, you should stop with the deflections.

Just answer the question does the p20 look like an iPhone X or an Huawei mate 9.
 
These seem a bit 'off' to be real concept molds?

All this does is convince me that my iPhone X is going to be used for the next couple years. Runs great, nothing compelling about the newer phones...
 
Why don't they just put the flash in the center of the three circular lenses and make the entire bump a raised circle instead of a raised square. So odd!
 
Why don't they just put the flash in the center of the three circular lenses and make the entire bump a raised circle instead of a raised square. So odd!

Probably because physics.

A flash doesn’t do you much good when you are taking an ultra wide angle photo, so you’d prefer it to be optimized for the higher focal length lenses.

Just a guess.
 
Why don't they just put the flash in the center of the three circular lenses and make the entire bump a raised circle instead of a raised square. So odd!

I agree with the flash in the middle but the circular bump would be even uglier.

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Cant even bring myself to imagine that with 3 lenses and a flash.
 
I'm the guy that holds on to their iPhone for 3-4 generations. It would have to be pretty impressive for me to throw cash down from an XS.
 
I agree with the flash in the middle but the circular bump would be even uglier.


Cant even bring myself to imagine that with 3 lenses and a flash.

Tim could save a dollar or two by recycling Apple Watch backs with that layout.
 
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