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If the camera is better its OK to "Stick Out"

Just ship it. I've been waiting to long for a bigger phone.
 
You've summed up my thoughts exactly, I think we need a bit of perspective. You'd honestly think this is a life/death scenario the way some people talk about this stuff on here.

Right, but this is an Apple forum. You wouldn't go to a comedy show and fret at people because there's a crisis in the middle east? Maybe you would lol.
 
Your phone now wobbles when laying on a desk.

Amazing, every detail has been considered!

I'm not crazy about the protruding camera ether, but wobbling on a desk? Do you know how big the camera would have to stick out to literally make it wobble? And do you type all the time on your phone while it's laying on a desk anyway? It most likely won't wobble. It just looks weird.
 
Your phone now wobbles when laying on a desk.

Amazing, every detail has been considered!

Since Apple is in California, that is definitely the newest innovation: a seismic sensor!

Otherwise, my phone will lie perfectly still.
 
I bet most of us buy phone cases... if this design is true, a phone case would level out the protruding camera ring... so, in the end.. it won't make much of a difference to people who have cases.

I'm just one of those people who never buy or use cases. I like the look and design of the phones I use (for the most part) and don't want to have to use a case just to make it feel/look right.

again, the ring protruding .6mm isn't going tosuddenly make me scoff and spit at the new device. I just wish they didnt feel the need to have a protruding camera.
 
Personally, a protruding camera doesn't bother me.

Agree, if it's done for the right reason then so much the better. For example if that protrudes to clip on lenses then great, lets wait and see. I do agree that if the lens protrudes because the phone MUST be 7mm and the camera isn't then that - in my opinion - isn't good
 
Ok seriously resolution? You can actually see a freaking pixel on the retina phones? Come on jimrod.

Processor speed? Based on what, clock rate lol? The A7 was WAY on top when it was released and the GPU was at or near the top in sustained (i.e. not cheated) benchmarks. Im not sure where it stands now but its near the top even after one year on the market. Same will happen with the iphone 6.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/patrickmoorhead/2013/09/20/apples-a7-soc-is-a-benchmarking-beast/

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7335/the-iphone-5s-review/5
(note it even beat or was close to larger tablets/phablets that had better thermals to play with)

and on and on...

Personally I think the resolution is fine, I've argued this many times with people for the added benefits of smaller file size etc, I can't see the pixels - I'm with you on that. In-fact I largely agree with you, I'm not an Apple hater, I spend enough time trying to argue the benefits of Apple products with Fandroids where on-paper specs seem to be the only things that matter! Until they get onto iTunes that is then I've got nothing... ;)

But that's what I mean really, when Apple start having protruding cameras and compromising design for "thinness" then it bothers me because design is one of their key selling points. I'm a product designer and I hate compromise or design by committee (though working for a company which isn't cash rich I have to compromise often - Apple don't!) thinness is becoming an obsession for Apple and I think it's something that isn't being asked for, good for them for going their own way - but the customer isn't always wrong either! A far better selling point would be a 2-day battery I'm sure... :)
 
I still don't get why some people (on here) get so irate about a slight camera protrusion or the dreaded "white bands". I NEVER look at the back of my phone mostly because it's in a case, which is what most people do so CALM THE HECK DOWN! :eek:
 
Not really, just trying to get my head around this design.

Having a protruding camera isn't a decision Apple will have taken lightly, a company that openly advertises it's superior design. They will have put a lot thought behind it.

Sure, I could blend in with the rest of the comments, and say, "Urgh, fail!"

But I thought i'd try to open up a debate into the reasoning behind the decision.

Fair enough. It looks like over time it will create two spots where wear is high from putting it down on the back. It might even turn into an area that snags and ends up with a sharp/catchy bit. For the cost of half a millimetre, they could have increased battery size or had less tightly packed components that would aid cooling.
 
I'll be surprised if we're not seeing what the final product looks like. Why, did they turn out the iPhone 5, with it's asymmetrical antennae windows, side spacers, and front features? Weren't they the world's most renowned industrial designers back then?

Are you saying you like the design of the 5, or you don't like it? Because if you don't, I assure you that you're in a very small minority with that opinion.
 
Just make it bloody thick enough to not have to have a protruding camera and we'll all enjoy the better battery life.

Seriously, are Apple this out of touch with what the majority of people want since Steve Jobs died? Does Jony Ive live in his own little bubble where "thinness" is the be-all and end-all of everything at the expense of performance and usability?

I guess Apple are getting desperate for a USP with the iPhone rapidly falling behind on spec sheets to competitors and being thinner than them is the only trump area left.

Bu-ha-ha, did you really just suggest that Steve Jobs cared what people wanted? The "people don't know what they want until you show it to them" Steve Jobs? Are we talking about the same guy here?
 
I haven't read every post here, but has anyone yet suggested a connection to the protruding camera with Apple's patent for interchangeable lenses? Seems like it might be related.
 
There's probably only a couple of us in the world who put a protective case on the phone, but for those two or three of us who do, we really won't care if it protrudes. Even if it protrudes a lot.
 
You thought wrong.

But the fact that you think Apple doesn't do compromise (or that you think other people think Apple doesn't do compromise) shows how well Apple has you trained.

Evidently

And what dungeon did samsung pull you out of?
 
Are we getting so thin now that components are sticking out of the phone.

How thin is too thin, I think we have our answer.

Exactly. What happens when the phone is thinner than the headphone port? Or when a MacBook is thinner than a USB port?
 
That's just plain ugly.
But have to see the real thing to make any fair judgement.
 
Exactly. What happens when the phone is thinner than the headphone port? Or when a MacBook is thinner than a USB port?

Historically? Apple removes them and creates us a Proprietary method.

However, I really do think we've seen as thin as devices will go.

Those camera protrusions we're seeing on all devices, are probably the extent of how thin the lens and sensor array can go and still be functional. Its a barrier of physics and the properties of light at this point. No matter how great tech is, you cannot defy the laws of physics, especially for Cameras.
 
That's a point actually - this is gonna mean it no longer works as a spirit level on surfaces like tables and worktops.

No, it doesn't. The sensors do not care what the physical orientation of the phone is, they only care about what they are being told is level and how the sensor is oriented in reference to that.
 
When i get around to buying the iPhone 6, first thing I'll do is stick it in a Spigen Slim Armour case, so having bands and a protruding camera won't be a problem.

But i do think this design & size will put a few people off the iPhone 6 after the initial excitement & launch rush has died down, as some consider the iPhone as a fashion accessories rather than a smartphone, and a good majority won't like the size neither.

If the 5S continues as is after the iPhone 6 launch at a cheaper price, I can still see the 5S sales being well up there.
 
I still don't get why some people (on here) get so irate about a slight camera protrusion or the dreaded "white bands". I NEVER look at the back of my phone mostly because it's in a case, which is what most people do so CALM THE HECK DOWN! :eek:

I hardly look at the outside of my car as I spend the vast majority of my time inside it when in use but guess what? I went and bought one where I thought the outside looked nice.
In fact that was the first thing I looked at.
 
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