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Alleged Schematic Shows Protruding Camera Ring on 4.7-Inch iPhone 6

Jimrod said:
Just make it bloody thick enough to not have to have a protruding camera and we'll all enjoy the better battery life.

Seriously, are Apple this out of touch with what the majority of people want since Steve Jobs died? Does Jony Ive live in his own little bubble where "thinness" is the be-all and end-all of everything at the expense of performance and usability?

I guess Apple are getting desperate for a USP with the iPhone rapidly falling behind on spec sheets to competitors and being thinner than them is the only trump area left.
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Thinness at any cost was Steve Jobs' ideal. He merely found a compatriot in Jony.

iPhones have always been behind on spec sheet since the first model. There were much faster processors than 400MHz when the iPhone was released. 3G. Copy & paste. Etc until the end of time.
 
jrswizzle said:
So you know for a fact that the iPhone 6 won't provide better battery life than it's predecessors?

Also, tacking on that .7mm would likely make the 6 thicker than the 5/5S. Sorry, but that would irritate me.

I like thinner, lighter devices. As the screens get bigger, any extra weight/size you can trim makes the device easier to handle. I reserve judgement on the battery life until we actually see real life tests. If it lasts a whole day, why add unnecessary bulk?

If YOU want MOAR BATTERY LIFE and you don't care about thickness, go get yourself a Mophie. I prefer thinner devices as the battery life suits my needs. There wouldn't be any way for me to trim size off my device after the fact if they made it bulkier to being with.

Just look at the bolded - all things are NEVER equal.
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I agree with this. What many seem to forget is that the device NEEDS to become thinner due to the increased size in other dimensions. I can only imagine the uproar if the iPhone 6 would be excessively heavy.

Something else that everyone seems to forget is that these are still rumors and we might be all be looking a pre-production models, prototype cases or other things, regardless of the number of reports we heard about them.
 
UncleSchnitty said:
I hear the iPhone 7 will be a 2mm thick piece of aluminum, very thin and stylish! It won't have onboard ram, flash memory or even a screen BUT it will have a Thunderbolt port so you can daisy chain everything you need onto it. This way you can have a 4k resolution, car battery and a prosumer camera!!! I called Apple to find out if this was their plan and they told me "Yep"

So the forum is happy here are the pictures of Chinese mock-ups:
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You forgot to add that it will still be sold at the same price though.
 
MrX8503 said:
This is just me, but I would bring the iPhone4 design language back but with Sapphire. Instead of a separate glass piece for the lens, the sapphire back justs goes over lens making the entire back one piece.
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That would create artefacts in the photo's that you are making. That's why even in the iPhone 4 there is a separate metal ring around the camera.
 
Congratulations Apple. You managed to take your obsession with "thin" so far that the next iPhone will actually look better with a case.
 
Well, most people will put a case on the phone so a protruding camera ring will not bother them.
 
Jimmy James said:
Thinness at any cost was Steve Jobs' ideal. He merely found a compatriot in Jony.

iPhones have always been behind on spec sheet since the first model. There were much faster processors than 400MHz when the iPhone was released. 3G. Copy & paste. Etc until the end of time.
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Regardless of the specs, the iPhones have always been called the most fluid and fastest cellphones on the market. Maybe we should look at what the phones actually do and how well they do it in stead of looking at lists of numbers and comparing those to phones from other platforms.
 
D.T. said:
I’m not an expert on optics (just a meager amateur photographer :) ), but I wonder if there isn’t some value in the lens being further out than the flash and/or not being flush/recessed? Like to reduce glare, and other flash related artifacts[?]

I know if you look at most [all?] P&S cameras, and certainly DSLRs, the lens surface is at least a few mm from the camera body, and the flash is set back a few mm.
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This is also one way to get focal length for a sensor big enough not to degrade image quality as MP increase. I've been saying for some years, as people demanded higher resolution (for no apparent purpose), that it will inevitably lead to a camera that is thicker than the phone. Not that that's necessarily what's happening here...
 
peterdevries said:
Regardless of the specs, the iPhones have always been called the most fluid and fastest cellphones on the market. Maybe we should look at what the phones actually do and how well they do it in stead of looking at lists of numbers and comparing those to phones from other platforms.
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Agreed. That was my point.
 
It seems everyone uses the "everyone will use a case" argument for any bad design - so why does Apple waste time and money designing these phones with nice finish etc. They should just make them with a basic, unfinished plastic case and save a load of money! Right? :rolleyes:
 
Jimrod said:
(Quote: Me - Apple specs below par)



Yes.

I'm not talking eco-system or efficiency or any of that - but compared to the main mobile phone players Apple phones ARE lower specced in every area. Battery size, resolution, RAM, processor speed, replaceable memory/battery, speaker quality etc etc etc.

iPhones are thinner and 64 bit. That's all really.

I've had iPhones since the 3G but now is the first time I'm considering a change, I don't want thinner, I want better battery life and more memory would be a plus since I travel the world a lot for work and "the Cloud" isn't a viable option for storage due to roaming data costs. The HTC One M8 seems to be a very good phone, I'm wondering in what area the iPhone 6 might be better aside from thickness?
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Ok seriously resolution? You can actually see a freaking pixel on the retina phones? Come on jimrod.

Processor speed? Based on what, clock rate lol? The A7 was WAY on top when it was released and the GPU was at or near the top in sustained (i.e. not cheated) benchmarks. Im not sure where it stands now but its near the top even after one year on the market. Same will happen with the iphone 6.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/patrickmoorhead/2013/09/20/apples-a7-soc-is-a-benchmarking-beast/

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7335/the-iphone-5s-review/5
(note it even beat or was close to larger tablets/phablets that had better thermals to play with)

and on and on...
 
To be really honest... I bet most of us buy phone cases... if this design is true, a phone case would level out the protruding camera ring... so, in the end.. it won't make much of a difference to people who have cases.

that said... we'll see what the real version is going to be next month. I'll buy it either way. I'm due for a new phone.. iPhone 5 since release.
 
Although I'm not a huge fan of it, I think I can deal. I own a Galaxy S4 and an iPod touch 5th generation. Both of which have a camera bump, somehow I coped with it, and it wasn't the end of the world for me. However, those god-awful lines on the back will definitely make me more upset than a protruding camera. HTC definitely got it right with the lines, but if Apple tries the same by doing.. that... I certainly will feel embarrassed for even wanting a phone that will be so nasty looking. (I will be switching to the iPhone 6 most likely) Buuuut... If they replace the lines with glass like I have seen in some renders, I will definitely be more than happy with that.
 
I think it's hilarious how many people are on here complaining but will certainly change their tune when the iPhone comes out and they MUST HAVE IT.

If you're *really* that distraught about the protruding camera lens, DON'T BUY THE NEXT IPHONE.... not that hard.

But what it comes down to is you know you're going to buy it... you know you will and you'll stand behind your decision to buy it and all of this will be long forgotten.

I, personally, am not in the business of developing smartphones. Therefore, I don't feel it's my place to criticize any of it (until I get it in my hand, and even then, I can only critique from a consumer-perspective).

I support Apple on this design feature. The truth is, had Apple sacrificed function for form, and thrown in a sub-par camera that was flush with the back of the phone, that would have people far more up in arms than the lens sticking out. Had they made the phone thicker to achieve the same flushness with a better camera, there would have been more people criticizing the thickness as well. Far more than those who care about a protruding camera lens.

Therefore, a protruding lens is the best compromise, I think.

EDIT: I should also add that, whether we like it or not, Apple has to answer to stakeholders. I'm sure this has some weight in most decision making as with any public organization.
 
Not a big fan of the ring and protrusion.

But, i'll wait till the phone is final and announced. Ive been waiting on a larger iPhone for a while now
 
LordVic said:
Not a big fan of the ring and protrusion.

But, i'll wait till the phone is final and announced. Ive been waiting on a larger iPhone for a while now
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I bet most of us buy phone cases... if this design is true, a phone case would level out the protruding camera ring... so, in the end.. it won't make much of a difference to people who have cases.
 
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