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Alleged Schematic Shows Protruding Camera Ring on 4.7-Inch iPhone 6

Padmini said:
Who cares?

Everyone of you are just looking for something to criticize. Its nauseating.

Particularly weird, considering all you complainers wrap your iPhones in these hideous cases, which make both a protruding camera and the "design" or "style" of the phone, completely irrelevant.
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Basically,
Me I don't care about any of this either as all my past beautifully designed iphones have been placed in cases. This alleged design with the cadillac pin stripes is the ugliest in my opinion but yet again it wont matter because its going into a case, but a bit faster of course, in reality its all irrelevant.

I really have to be careful and limit how often I come into these threads reading them, a person can develop a mental condition (OCD) this place will have you tripping out over crap you never ever bothered to notice.
 
jrswizzle said:
Yup - because we know all there is to know about how the iPhone 6's battery will perform :rolleyes:

Are you guys for real? Seriously....do you actually think about this stuff before you type it out?

mAh are about as useful for determining battery life as mp are for determining a camera's quality. Or GHz for determining how fast a processor is.
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Ok genius - physics dictates that a bigger battery will be better all things being equal, I suggested not trimming 0.7mm from the thickness of the phone and then leaving the camera protruding, just keeping the 0.7mm for extra battery space and leaving the camera flush - as better battery life is something universally wanted by customers. Nothing to do with Apple vs anyone else, with their own tech and management systems a bigger battery will still be better. How am I wrong, since you're being smug about it?
 
D.T. said:
I’m not an expert on optics (just a meager amateur photographer :) ), but I wonder if there isn’t some value in the lens being further out than the flash and/or not being flush/recessed? Like to reduce glare, and other flash related artifacts[?]

I know if you look at most [all?] P&S cameras, and certainly DSLRs, the lens surface is at least a few mm from the camera body, and the flash is set back a few mm.
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Yes, there is a camera benefit to separating the lens from the image capture chip. Squeezing them closer and closer together sacrifices quality.

But, the point of most of the gripes is not to sacrifice the quality of the camera function but quit chasing thin when the outcome is something like this. If the distance between the 6's lens and it's image capture chip is ideal exactly as Apple has chosen it here, those griping are saying make the rest of the phone slightly thicker to make the whole camera flush (and fill the additional space with more battery or other benefits). That's not saying, make the phone thicker than the 5s- just as thick as the whole camera.
 
palmerc2 said:
Isn't the iPhone 5/5S thin and light enough??
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Apple has considered your question and the answer is "no".

But perhaps the iPhone 6/6S will be thin and light enough. In two years, that will be the standard, and people will be talking about how much nicer it is than the rumored iPhone 7.
 
iBreatheApple said:
I simply don't understand the rationale (other than making the device as slim as possible). It's going to make for a rocky surface and, regardless of how durable, will seemingly only damage the lens much easier.
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You're setting it on the table wrong.
 
I think people get more upset about the iphone's little faults (rumors at this point of course) than for example a Samsung phone because there is little alternative. There is one (the 5C is not that different) iphone and if you want to use the newest stuff and functions you have no other choice. After spending a whole lot of money over years in the App Store and expanding functionality with AirPlay devices etc. a switch to Android/Windows Phone comes with sacrifice that is larger than just being upset about little things you don't want your iphone to have/ not have.

And at least for me, the biggest thing why I use Apple products is the software. And yes I do have both a Windows PC and an Android tablet and this is exactly why I know that OS X & iOS just work better for me.

The Thickness or "Thinness" is merely something of an showing off and marketing thing. I don't think that since the introduction of the iphone 4 making the iphone thinner is high on the wish-list of the people who are actually buying iphones. For me (and MAAAANYY) others priority is now battery-life, others would like to see water resistant phones, others want 36MP cameras etc. With that in mind I'm just not sure why this race for "Thinness" is Apple's priority that in it's way compromises on stuff people are much more exiting about.
 
ghettochris said:
I have the current ipod touch which is think with camera like this, it is awesome. The battery is fine for my needs. iPhone battery is fine as well, but it feals like a fat clunky brick in comparison. Most normal people don't use their phone enough in a day for the battery to be an issue, you do realize that you are actually in the minority of who apple is selling to?
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My phone battery lasts all day, but then I travel a lot and sometimes "all day" isn't enough. Of the people I know and associate with the biggest complaint about their phones, of any brand, is battery life when actually using it rather than leaving it idle on a desk. Our company internet was down on Monday and our Marketing Manager ran his iPhone 4S down to 11% battery by 5:30pm using it for email. Everyone can benefit from a longer lasting battery so I doubt I'm in a minority. Only fanboys always think everything they're handed from their favourite brand is perfect and beyond reproach whatever they do...
 
Jimrod said:
Ok genius - physics dictates that a bigger battery will be better all things being equal, I suggested not trimming 0.7mm from the thickness of the phone and then leaving the camera protruding, just keeping the 0.7mm for extra battery space and leaving the camera flush - as better battery life is something universally wanted by customers. Nothing to do with Apple vs anyone else, with their own tech and management systems a bigger battery will still be better. How am I wrong, since you're being smug about it?
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So you know for a fact that the iPhone 6 won't provide better battery life than it's predecessors?

Also, tacking on that .7mm would likely make the 6 thicker than the 5/5S. Sorry, but that would irritate me.

I like thinner, lighter devices. As the screens get bigger, any extra weight/size you can trim makes the device easier to handle. I reserve judgement on the battery life until we actually see real life tests. If it lasts a whole day, why add unnecessary bulk?

If YOU want MOAR BATTERY LIFE and you don't care about thickness, go get yourself a Mophie. I prefer thinner devices as the battery life suits my needs. There wouldn't be any way for me to trim size off my device after the fact if they made it bulkier to being with.

Just look at the bolded - all things are NEVER equal.
 
BeamWalker said:
I think people get more upset about the iphone's little faults (rumors at this point of course) than for example a Samsung phone because there is little alternative. There is one (the 5C is not that different) iphone and if you want to use the newest stuff and functions you have no other choice. After spending a whole lot of money over years in the App Store and expanding functionality with AirPlay devices etc. a switch to Android/Windows Phone comes with sacrifice that is larger than just being upset about little things you don't want your iphone to have/ not have.

And at least for me, the biggest thing why I use Apple products is the software. And yes I do have both a Windows PC and an Android tablet and this is exactly why I know that OS X & iOS just work better for me.

The Thickness or "Thinness" is merely something of an showing off and marketing thing. I don't think that since the introduction of the iphone 4 making the iphone thinner is high on the wish-list of the people who are actually buying iphones. For me (and MAAAANYY) others priority is now battery-life, others would like to see water resistant phones, others want 36MP cameras etc. With that in mind I'm just not sure why this race for "Thinness" is Apple's priority that in it's way compromises on stuff people are much more exiting about.
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Well hell, why doesn't Apple just put out the iBrick - an inch thick with a 50mp camera, 8 days of continuous battery life and its war resistant.

Because that's what EVERYONE wants right?
 
Nik said:
Your phone now wobbles when laying on a desk.

Amazing, every detail has been considered!
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Quick somebody develop and start selling a leveling mat that charges at the same time.
Millions to be sold and made!

For the budget version carry 3 nickels and put on each remaining corner, before putting the phone down.

Another important problem in the world solved!
 
Moto G said:
WRONG. Apple are motivated by design and innovation, which the rest of the industry then makes a point of deciding "not to copy", whilst simultaneously doing so. If you think Apple are motivated by profits, I would say no - they are motivated by excellence and by doing the best they can, focusing intensely one one thing and making it the best they are able to, continuously refining and trying new ideas - that's what design IS, after all - iteration.

You've got it VERY VERY upside down, if you think their SOLE target is their ledger sheet.
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All the things you mention don't imply Apple aren't motivated by profits. Why would good design / innovation and profits be mutually exclusive? It's quite the contrary. All corporations are motivated by profits. Apple simply has a different approach to reach it than most companies.

"Make good products and the rest will follow" is not the same as "Make good products and we don't care about the rest".
 
Jimrod said:
My phone battery lasts all day, but then I travel a lot and sometimes "all day" isn't enough. Of the people I know and associate with the biggest complaint about their phones, of any brand, is battery life when actually using it rather than leaving it idle on a desk. Our company internet was down on Monday and our Marketing Manager ran his iPhone 4S down to 11% battery by 5:30pm using it for email. Everyone can benefit from a longer lasting battery so I doubt I'm in a minority. Only fanboys always think everything they're handed from their favourite brand is perfect and beyond reproach whatever they do...
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There are numerous cheap accessories for the times you need extra juice.

I bought an 8000 mAh battery bank for when I travel. When I'm in conference sessions, manning our exhibition booth or sitting int he airport, I can always top my phone off without having to find an outlet. Heck, when I travel I don't even bother plugging my phone in at night like I do at home. Just make sure the battery pack is topped off.

It's really NOT difficult to make your battery last. I actually like thin, sleek devices. As screens get bigger, the overall device needs to shed bulk and weight where it can to make it easier and more comfortable to handle.

But hey, looks like another customer for the iBrick. I think I should patent it....
 
Dave245 said:
I don't see the problem with a protruding camera, they have Sapphire covering them so its unlikely to get damaged.
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I think the point/issue is less about durability and more about your phone being wobbly when sitting on a table while you're trying to use it like I do while eating breakfast.
 
I hear the iPhone 7 will be a 2mm thick piece of aluminum, very thin and stylish! It won't have onboard ram, flash memory or even a screen BUT it will have a Thunderbolt port so you can daisy chain everything you need onto it. This way you can have a 4k resolution, car battery and a prosumer camera!!! I called Apple to find out if this was their plan and they told me "Yep"

So the forum is happy here are the pictures of Chinese mock-ups:
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Rogifan said:
Yes! Thank you. Can't people just RELAX and wait for the keynote. If after that there are all these supposed flawed then complain away...
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Lol,that's how this site is,but I love it. It's extremely entertaining to see people arguing or upset over a supposed rumor. I'll be honest,the replies are better than the articles most of the time :) People on here are intelligent and witty for the most part and I enjoy reading their reactions/comments a lot.
 
Putzytart said:
RAGE

This is one of the main reasons I don't like most android handset designs. Protruding lenses are just so ugly.

Maybe they'll sell a flush design back to us with the 6S. And get rid of those horrid antenna bands. Loving the rest of the design however. 'Close but no cigar'
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Interesting. I feel the exact opposite way of you.
 
jrswizzle said:
So you know for a fact that the iPhone 6 won't provide better battery life than it's predecessors?

Also, tacking on that .7mm would likely make the 6 thicker than the 5/5S. Sorry, but that would irritate me.

I like thinner, lighter devices. As the screens get bigger, any extra weight/size you can trim makes the device easier to handle. I reserve judgement on the battery life until we actually see real life tests. If it lasts a whole day, why add unnecessary bulk?

If YOU want MOAR BATTERY LIFE and you don't care about thickness, go get yourself a Mophie. I prefer thinner devices as the battery life suits my needs. There wouldn't be any way for me to trim size off my device after the fact if they made it bulkier to being with.

Just look at the bolded - all things are NEVER equal.
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You're missing my point.

According to these rumours, and that's all they are though at this stage are likely to be near the mark, the iPhone 6 is around 0.7mm thinner than the 5/5S but the camera protrudes 0.7mm or so. I'd rather have everything nice and flush and take the battery size gain with it than an overly anorexic phone with bits sticking out, which just seems like compromised design. If it stayed at 7mm thick I don't think anyone would complain.

I'm not saying the battery won't be good enough, I'm saying it could be better while keeping the phone acceptably slim and not having a protruding camera so a win/win.
 
Jimrod said:
(Quote: Me - Apple specs below par)


I've had iPhones since the 3G but now is the first time I'm considering a change, I don't want thinner, I want better battery life and more memory would be a plus since I travel the world a lot for work and "the Cloud" isn't a viable option for storage due to roaming data costs. The HTC One M8 seems to be a very good phone, I'm wondering in what area the iPhone 6 might be better aside from thickness?
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Feeling the exact same way. I've had every generation, but this obsession with thinness over functionality (ie- battery life) has me considering leaving Apple for the first time.
 
This is just me, but I would bring the iPhone4 design language back but with Sapphire. Instead of a separate glass piece for the lens, the sapphire back justs goes over lens making the entire back one piece.
 
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