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Aluminum MacBook and MacBook Pros Spotted?

Oh ****.

If they remove full size DVI from MBP somebody should give mr. Jobs a bithchslap and shout "IDIOT!".

You can't rely on stupid adapter to be able to get picture out of your laptop.
How about missing a presentation because of lost or broken adapter?
Didn't they advertise iMac that it has no extra cables etc. How about keeping the laptops as clutter free as possible, please?

The pro-AV people are going to pissed if there is going to be only one FW port. Pro should mean PROFESSIONAL. Professional people really use things like firewire in their profession, professionally. PRO! (Pro is not an adjective for consumer luxury item!)

-t
 
I'm in the market for a new portable computing solution (Mac of course) so I am very interested to see what pans out.

Optimally, I would like a laptop with enough HD space so I could use it as a primary computer. I have about 170 gigs of stuff on my iMac and I don't see needing much more than this so I figure something around 250 gigs. would more than meet my needs.

Much like one of the previous posters, it would be nice to have a docking solution that is neat and tidy but it's not a make or break deal for me.

I am torn between the MB and the MBP. If I'm not mistaken, the MB will port out to a 24" monitor which is large enough for me. I *like* the 17" screen on the MBP but it's a give-and-take because with that extra screen size comes additional weight and girth.
 
if the mbp has fw800 only, and it's "backwards compatible" does that mean i can plug my fw400 into it?
 
I am planning on getting a MBP the day they come out...

this is my first mac purchase, do you think they will sell out? I need one ASAP for school esp FinalCut.. jw cuz I know the iphone sold out
 
skinnylegs said:
I'm in the market for a new portable computing solution (Mac of course) so I am very interested to see what pans out.

Optimally, I would like a laptop with enough HD space so I could use it as a primary computer. I have about 170 gigs of stuff on my iMac and I don't see needing much more than this so I figure something around 250 gigs. would more than meet my needs.
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As it is now, the 2.4ghz comes standard with 200GB (it can be BTO with a bigger), the 2.5GHz comes with 250 as standard and so does the 17-incher.


Much like one of the previous posters, it would be nice to have a docking solution that is neat and tidy but it's not a make or break deal for me.
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Yup, but I wouldn't hold my breath for something like that.

I am torn between the MB and the MBP. If I'm not mistaken, the MB will port out to a 24" monitor which is large enough for me. I *like* the 17" screen on the MBP but it's a give-and-take because with that extra screen size comes additional weight and girth.
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Yup. If I were to buy an Apple laptop today, I would buy the MB. If for nothing else then because you can upgrade the HDD yourself without voiding the warranty and without hassle. Price is a factor as well, as the MBP simply isn't competitive. I wouldn't like the glossy screen, but fortunately my next computer when this MBP dies won't be a Mac.
 
donga said:
if the mbp has fw800 only, and it's "backwards compatible" does that mean i can plug my fw400 into it?
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With an adaptor or a fw800-400 cable. But yes. You have always had that oppurtunity. Just like you can plug a USB 1.1 thingy into a USB 2.0 port.

It will give you the slower speed of the two, of course.
 
esaias said:
Oh ****.

If they remove full size DVI from MBP somebody should give mr. Jobs a bithchslap and shout "IDIOT!".

You can't rely on stupid adapter to be able to get picture out of your laptop.
How about missing a presentation because of lost or broken adapter?
Didn't they advertise iMac that it has no extra cables etc. How about keeping the laptops as clutter free as possible, please?

The pro-AV people are going to pissed if there is going to be only one FW port. Pro should mean PROFESSIONAL. Professional people really use things like firewire in their profession, professionally. PRO! (Pro is not an adjective for consumer luxury item!)

-t
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ur really bad. If you're missing anything for a presentation you're unorganized. If you have FW400 either get FW800 BECAUSE ITS BETTER or stick with the adapter, because it's still better than anything else out there.

If you don't care for FW, go get a PC.

Optical is "sort" of important to me, considering I do use my MBP for gaming, but with considering Daemon tools to run it without, and FW to install it from iMac... What's the reason for an optical? We got iTunes to get the movies we want, and if you have them in DVD format digitalize that crap and throw it on your Time Machine, get it when you need it.

There are obvious things that will make it less convenient, and I wont carry around an external all over the place.
 
I really hope they slap an HDMI output onto one of the models. My 2 year old Asus G1S has HDMI WITH audio. I can hook it up to my HDTV and play movies and games.

Hell, I could always buy a cheap external Blu-Ray drive for $120 and suddenly I have a blu-ray player for my home theatre now!

It'd be really nice if Apple put HDMI onto one of their laptops.....REAAALLLY nice.
 
In an effort to further reduce the notebook footprint, the new MacBook Pro is said to be eliminating the Firewire 400 port and the 28-pin DVI-I (Dual Link) port. Instead, the cases will contain the smaller (but still backward compatible) Firewire 800 port and "what appears to be" a mini-DVI port.

Does not sound like a professional device. In fact, they should add an extra USB and Firewire port to the notebook.
 
am I the only one that likes the older keyboards better than the macbook air (and proposed speculation picture of new mbp)?

and i was really hoping the new pro would have more speculation about an hdmi port
 
Colrath said:
ur really bad. If you're missing anything for a presentation you're unorganized. If you have FW400 either get FW800 BECAUSE ITS BETTER or stick with the adapter, because it's still better than anything else out there.
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You don't get it, do you? We ALREADY HAVE FW800 on the MBP in ADDITION to FW400. Nixing the fw400 connector is in no way "better".

Optical is "sort" of important to me, considering I do use my MBP for gaming, but with considering Daemon tools to run it without, and FW to install it from iMac... What's the reason for an optical?
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Exactly. Optical aren't really "pro" either. Neither is gaming, for that matter.

We got iTunes to get the movies we want, and if you have them in DVD format digitalize that crap and throw it on your Time Machine, get it when you need it.
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I'm sorry, but iTunes? Seriously? We're talking a supposedly "pro" computer here, discussing the nixing of ports.
 
skinnylegs said:
I am torn between the MB and the MBP. If I'm not mistaken, the MB will port out to a 24" monitor which is large enough for me. I *like* the 17" screen on the MBP but it's a give-and-take because with that extra screen size comes additional weight and girth.
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Yeah, the 17" MBP is a behemoth, but it's quite thin... sadly, Apple insists on putting relatively low-res screens on their machines, so you have to go to the 17" MBP to get a decent amount of pixels.

The 15.4" MBP has 1440x900 resolution. My 15.4" PC notebook has 1680x1050, and sometimes I wish I would've chosen the 1920x1200 option instead. It sounds like these pixels should be microscopic and the text would be impossible to read, but it's actually not a problem.

Tosser said:
Again I agree. I thought thought you implied that it would be alright to nix ports if only one could buy a docking station.
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Well, honestly I was kinda sorta supporting that idea, but it all depends on what they nix. I welcome any initiatives to make laptops a little more modular than they are today. They always have too much or too little. My Dell notebook from 2006 has an analog VGA port, a 9-pin serial port, a modem port and a PS/2 port. I stopped using all that stuff in the previous millennium. I'd be willing to bet that only a couple of % of the customer base used these ports in 2006, let alone today.

Let's say Apple came up with a system where you have two different docks. One for your office desk, one that has all the bells & whistles and also doubles as a stand that raises the screen to eye-level. Then there could be a portable dock that's more like a thin strip along the back (the MBP has all the ports on the sides anyway), with all the stuff like full sized DVI, FW400/800, couple of extra USB ports etc. That way the 'naked' notebook could be made very light and thin so that the majority who only use one or two USB ports wouldn't have to carry around stuff they don't need. Not that a few extra grams added by a FW port breaks anyone's back, but I don't think the portable 'strip' dock would kill anyone either.
 
HDMI for new Macbook Pro ?????

Why a DVI port when a HDMI port would be better. Technically HDMI and DVI are the same except HDMI adds sound - wouldn't that be better, and an HDMI port is about the size of the smaller DVI port - heck all the newer laptops on the PC side have HDMI - what gives?
 
MugsyMD said:
Why a DVI port when a HDMI port would be better. Technically HDMI and DVI are the same except HDMI adds sound - wouldn't that be better, and an HDMI port is about the size of the smaller DVI port - heck all the newer laptops on the PC side have HDMI - what gives?
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My guess? The new MBP will be Air-shaped, so they will taper the sides nix numeral ports, nix the expresscard slot, and reuse this:

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I also fear they will make the MBP glossy-only.
 
And, Yes, this WILL be my first Mac

I am looking forward to the MacBook Pro coming out in a little over 2 weeks (I hope) - as this will also be my first Mac - my last Apple product I bought was the Newton 2100 - and I still have it for nostaglia reasons and it still works - altough I don't really use it - it really is a very interesting piece of hardware.
So, get on board Apple - I am hoping you are smart enough to put HDMI vice just plain 'ol DVI into your computer and adding Blue-Ray - now that would be an awesome laptop! Oh, a 500gb drive would work with 4gb of RAM, all for about $2,000 - now that sounds perfect!
 
Anuba said:
My Dell notebook from 2006 has an analog VGA port, a 9-pin serial port, a modem port and a PS/2 port. I stopped using all that stuff in the previous millennium. I'd be willing to bet that only a couple of % of the customer base used these ports in 2006, let alone today.
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I could see most customers dumping the serial port and modem (though I still need the former, since I'm too cheap to buy the USB replacement for my one remaining serial device). And the VGA port, if they shipped a DVI adapter, but there's still a significant number of legacy CRTs and older VGA-only LCDs out there that it can't be discounted entirely yet.

But dropping the PS/2 port would be problematic on a PC; USB keyboards, last I checked when buying a replacement six months ago or so, still hadn't caught on for your cheap, everyday, <$10 keyboard.
 
Tosser said:
My guess? The new MBP will be Air-shaped, so they will taper the sides nix numeral ports, nix the expresscard slot, and reuse this:

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I also fear they will make the MBP glossy-only.
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They won't ditch the express port, again this is something that shows it up from the MB line AND I use the thing for eSATA HDs, removing it would mean I don't buy a new MBP.

And I bloody hope not glossy only *shudder*
 
Concorde Rules said:
They won't ditch the express port, again this is something that shows it up from the MB line AND I use the thing for eSATA HDs, removing it would mean I don't buy a new MBP.
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Well, they're not targeting people who bought recently. They're catering to switchers and "iPod users".
Also, rumours has it that there will be no more MB/MBP line, but the laptop lines will be merged into one, completely negating the need for any differentiation.

I do hope I'm as wrong as wrong can be in this area. But they already tried nixing FW800 earlier.

And I bloody hope not glossy only *shudder*
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Haha, my feelings exactly. :p
 
Tosser said:
From what you say, you most likely need "a laptop", not an MBP.
;)
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I'm a computer science major. The regular MacBook's don't meet the suggested requirements by the department, so MBP it is. (I will not use a PC).
 
MugsyMD said:
Why a DVI port when a HDMI port would be better. Technically HDMI and DVI are the same except HDMI adds sound - wouldn't that be better, and an HDMI port is about the size of the smaller DVI port - heck all the newer laptops on the PC side have HDMI - what gives?
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No one is mentioning licensing fees. I tried to google this, had read it (on RoughlyDrafted maybe?) but I can't find it now, but apparently part of the problem of replacing a dvi port (or as supposed the mini-dvi port) with HDMI or DIsplayPort is the licensing fee for the newer types of ports. I thought Apple had purposely avoided those kinds of ports as a result. Anyone have more info on this?
 
MB spotted

The more i consider this thread and it's implications the more i believe it was the macbooks that were spotted. I am confident that apple will surprise and astound us all with the new mbp design (if it is new). The core and longest customers in this market are the pro users they surely will not be forgotten. Sure apple is changing and its market is changing with it they will just offer more BTO options within the range i hope to cater for this new diversity. The mbp is their flagship model and must be all singing and dancing. This thinness obsession is the only problem i cannot dispel at some point perhaps the current model is thin enough surely. Of course this could all be a false rumour we only have weeks to find out. I wonder if other sites have this kind of speculation and devotion to tech that apple has it really is a compliment to them in the end that so many people care and worry !
 
MugsyMD said:
Why a DVI port when a HDMI port would be better. Technically HDMI and DVI are the same except HDMI adds sound - wouldn't that be better, and an HDMI port is about the size of the smaller DVI port - heck all the newer laptops on the PC side have HDMI - what gives?
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Not quite. HDMI doesn't support dual-link, ok, well, it does according to the spec, but nobody uses it. It does not support VGA output either, the way DVI-I does. So you'd need another port anyhow to work with older projectors and such, which kinda defeats the purpose. And you still couldn't use a 30in monitor, as there's no dual link. And the HDMI connector is notorious for falling out of the port at nothing, as opposed to DVI, which screws in place.
 
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