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Amazon Inks Deal to Sell New Apple Products Like iPhone XR, iPhone XS, and 2018 iPad Pro
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Personally, I’m really disappointed by this arrangement. I had been occasionally selling my used Apple gear on Amazon Marketplace as a way to upgrade to a newer product. Posting them on Amazon always ensured a quick sale and as easy path to moving my older gear so I could use the proceeds to offset the cost of a newer replacement. I’m guessing that eBay will be picking up a lot more listings come January...
What about Australia? We now have a new Amazon store here.
Also can someone tell me if Apple fixes prices? Or in otherwords how much margin does Apple give shops?
Yeah but supply constraints are still supply constraints, I won't be able to get products any faster than I can from Apple
Hmm it seems this path had an underlying plan all along, as for those deal Amazon will now ban third parties from selling refurbished Apple computers from the Amazon store.
Apple still has a war on self repair it seems. Great for their revenue stream, bad for the consumer.
Apple still has a war on self repair it seems. Great for their revenue stream, bad for the consumer.
Amazon works in many countries, has Prime and etc. Apple might not delivering in some Amazon markets. Anyway, nothing bad.
The “reduced” XR reports are the usual fake news from Nikkei, proven wrong basically every time they say something. They said the same thing with iPhone 7 and iPhone 8 and were proven wrong in sales data reported the subsequent quarter.
Secondly, unit sales are not relevant when you’re growing revenue at 20% but these worthless analysts can only focus on 0.5M units sales “miss” that no one at Apple ever mentioned or committed to. Unit sales projections are PURELY made up by analysts, so there is no such thing as a “miss.” There are only 2 numbers: Revenue and EPS. 20% and 40% growth, respectively.
Lastly, Amazon selling Apple products at full retail says nothing other than it is a long time coming for the biggest online retailer to sell Apple gear. If you recall, they used to, so this is likely a mutually beneficial agreement and not one of desperation by either party.
Do people actually think this is a good thing? How did the Americans end up in a situation where one retailer (AMZN) has this much market power and is affecting entire markets at the micro and meso levels? They have their AWS profits to compensate their price dumping of products on their retail store, destroying the competition that relies on hard profits off their products, unless they sell through AMZN.
In the meanwhile Bezos makes deals with the intelligence agencies, ICE and Palantir (Peter Thiel owns that, remember them?) to collect as much data as they can on their 'customers' and be a good ol' boy for Uncle Sam. They do a better job than facebook as they actually get paid for it.
It kinda surprises me they're going to sell the Apple hardware for retail prices, and something tells me this is more about the removing of third party resellers than it is about having Apple products back in the catalog. I think they're effectively circumventing the right of first sale doctrine with this, by basically requiring you have permission from (and pay!) Apple to sell your used products on the biggest US marketplace.
Strange times, these times.
In the meanwhile Bezos makes deals with the intelligence agencies, ICE and Palantir (Peter Thiel owns that, remember them?) to collect as much data as they can on their 'customers' and be a good ol' boy for Uncle Sam. They do a better job than facebook as they actually get paid for it.
It kinda surprises me they're going to sell the Apple hardware for retail prices, and something tells me this is more about the removing of third party resellers than it is about having Apple products back in the catalog. I think they're effectively circumventing the right of first sale doctrine with this, by basically requiring you have permission from (and pay!) Apple to sell your used products on the biggest US marketplace.
Strange times, these times.
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Personally though I friggin love Amazon, more then Apple probably. Great price and fast great service.
Shame this is nothing more then a shady business deal really to increase those profits.
Shame this is nothing more then a shady business deal really to increase those profits.
I never liked them, and I am glad they don't have such a big foothold on my country as they have in the states. Monopolies are only beneficial for the monopolists, not us consumers.
You know those great prices come at a cost right? Everything you ever bought, looked at, where you shipped it, what medium you used to pay, what bank (all the prime extras if you got it) is up for grabs by just about any intelligence agency, immigrations, and (anonymized, maybe, but once you have enough datapoints in one profile, it becomes easy) used to bettter target you for yet more purchases.
I never really thought of Amazon being the datamonster we all know Google and Facebook to be, but with their AWS cloud hosting, they've really got the hang of it. I think the only thing I still like about Apple is that datamining isn't their core business and they aren't good at it. I hope that stays that way at least.
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No, Amazon just offers great price, it's cheaper as it has no stores. And I doubt they doubt they collect data like you imply. But you can believe what ever conspiracy you like.
This is shocking and simply another example of Apple exerting its monopoly over Apple products.
Apple should not be able to dictate who can sell Apple devices on the Amazon market place.
Its a shame that Amazon have chosen to accept Apples demands.
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Apple is doing this to be a control freak.
Why should Apple dictate who can sell their products on the Amazon marketplace?
No company should be able to dictate who can sell their products. It is another example of a company abusing its power.
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Does anyone know how much margin Apple gives sellers? It would be nice to see how much meat was on the bone to determine what discounts could be available.
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Any sketchy third party won't be able to build a reputation.
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So you think it is great that people not be allowed to sell their used phones on an open Amazon marketplace?
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Apple fanbois will applaud anything that Apple do. They don't care about peoples rights.
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Or in otherwords:
Dear Seller,
Amazon has capitulated to the demands of Apple. We think that we can make more money selling more Apple products in Amazon. One consequence of this is that Apple HAVE DEMANDED that we stop you the little guy from selling Apple products on our OPEN MARKETPLACE. While we disagree with this practice, Apple are such a big monopoly that we have no other choice.
Here’s the funny thing.
It wasn’t so long ago that people were cheering when social media platforms such as Facebook and YouTube were blocking alt-right trolls from their platform. Their retort was “Facebook is a private platform, so they have the right to choose who gets to use their platform, and what rules they want to implement and enforce”.
Isn’t amazon doing the same thing here? It’s their platform, so amazon has every right to decide who gets to sell, as well as the terms and conditions they wish to impose on their users.
Likewise, Apple wants to address the concerns of fake Apple products being sold on amazon, amazon likely had a similar concern, and so it was a simple matter of inking a deal between both of them.
At the end of the day, neither company owes third party sellers anything, not least because they have effectively been commoditised.
I do agree 100% with Louis Rossman’s closing words though. If your entire business model is predicated on a platform you do not own or control, you are really asking for trouble.
That's really on the buyer—years ago, I bought two different used iphones (4S and 5) used from reputable SMALL sellers at half the price of new models. Those phones worked perfectly, and I likewise sold them when I moved on to a new model each time. I'm not saying it's a buyer's 'fault', just that if you are buying from a smaller seller, you need to research the person's selling history and complaints. I have also bought used or barely used tech on ebay, and I have never had a problem, for similar reasons. I'll only make purchases from sellers with a positive history and feedback. And I usually write to them to ask about the particular item. I know, sounds like a lot of effort—but if I'm making a second-hand purchase, I'm looking to save a significant amount, so I consider it worth the extra effort.
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Just so you know, there are other places for you to sell your old tech. Reputable and easy to do. Just do a search online and you'll find them.
Just checking - does this mean Amazon will be limiting only device sales, or will this also have an impact on the accessories market, such as cables?
Not me, I said that Alex Jones should not have been banned by Apple without going through the courts.
I don't think any platform should be able to put users off that platform. Sellers rights on platforms should be protected in law.
Restricting sellers is not the right way to restrict fakes.
Which is why users on platforms should be protected by law.
