the kindle fire is well built device, and much as i love my iPad, the kindle is more rugged and still sleek. I'd hand a kid a kindle fire to play with without worry, but kind flinch a bit with an iPad
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the kindle fire is well built device, and much as i love my iPad, the kindle is more rugged and still sleek. I'd hand a kid a kindle fire to play with without worry, but kind flinch a bit with an iPad
Really, I count 7 Kindle Fire Models
Fire
Fire HD 7 16/32GB
Fire HD 9 16/32GB
Fire HD 9 4G 32/64
Apple has 12 current iPad Models + 4 iPad 2 models, and that's not counting any rumored iPad Mini models
Black or White in 16/32/64 configurations with Wifi or Wifi+4G
Having said all of that, unless the iPad Mini is $149, I'm thinking about picking up one non-HD Fire. At $160, it's a great little tablet for the kids to play on, and the parental controls look outstanding.
Yes, there has been tablet versions of Windows since 2002. What is your point? And no, i really dont see that big of a need for Pro tablets either, as i would prefer an ultrabook any day. Then again, i am not most, and most would probably opt for the reverse. Wouldnt be surprised if it ends up being cheaper for the company too. Slam a display at the desk, hook up a docking station, and you are good to go. Desktop, laptop, tablet, whatever you want, you have it.
What is the fundamental issue here? And more importantly, and once more, what is the argument for not buying Windows, from an IT-department point of view. I honestly cannot think of one; one! At least not one that would win an IT-department over. Make them go non-default.
Also, out of curiosity: why would you want to change how a desktop OS works? Same there, if you want it, its there. If you dont need it, dont ever open it. What is the fundamental issue here? Choice?!
And that's why it will probably sell very well. My little one isn't old enough to use a tablet. But when she is - I wouldn't hesitate to buy one for her own use. Not only is the price great - but the parental controls just announced go well beyond they yay/nay access. I'm also pretty sure my eventual toddler won't care about how "slick" the OS is. She'll just want to play and experiment on the device.
First, i'd say that it does not have all of the same functionality. Office alone, proves my point. (Yes, there are productivity tools for the iPad, but Office is the gold standard).
Second, no matter how many ipads people have at home (fewer than most people around here would think, even though i can forgive some of you on the basis that you are american, Apples stronghold), owning an ipad wont convince your IT-department not to replace your laptop and desktop with a Windows tablet.
Fourth, im certainly not saying that people will abandon Apple products. There is really no reason to. They are good. It has nothing to do with that.
Last, your point is moot. The argument was that MSFT can leverage their dominance in enterprise to gain a strong hold on the user, the very same user that will later on consume IT in his home, and then quite often so a MSFT product, as it is what he or she has grown accustomed too (it happened with PC:s, so the scenario is hardly implausible). Once more, im not expecting average joe to ditch his iPad the day the Surface is released. Its not about that. There are, however, still hundreds of millions - if not billions - of tablets left to sell in the upcoming years. I think MSFT have a great chance at snagging a substantial share of those sales.
And they are quick ways of replacing laptops and desktops, with the added benefit of being tablet computers when needed (which for some would mean tablet first, and for others tablet second).
Absolutely incorrect. That's not the android model at all. And if you've ever really used ICS or JB, you'd realize how ridiculous your comment is.
Since Apple fans love the #apps/ecosystem argument - since the x86 ecosystem is the single largest, single most supported, single most dominant ecosystem ever built. Since it would allow you to run close to every single damn application created since the dawn of time (ok, not quite, and not without hassle, but you get the point).
And, because it can be a tablet by day, PC by night. Get to the office, dock it. Desktop right there on your 27" display. Heading out to a meeting? There you go, just take it. Out selling? Perfect. Etc.
1) The old kindles had ads. You can pay to get rid of them. What is the problem?
2) Like Apple never lied in a commercial.
3) No one in their right mind thinks that a 7" 16:10 device comes with a 1920x1200 resolution. Especially not at that price point.
I am an Apple fan, have been for a long time, but I have to say my Kindle is one of my most favourite devices. I'm an avid reader, and this little device is something I take everywhere and is a joy to use (simple, one task device). I couldn't be happier... unless the iPad Mini becomes a real product and lives up to expectations, then my poor Kindle may suffer from neglect. I never expected to enjoy an Amazon product so much, it's quite a surprise I'm the first to admit, but it happened.
Actually he is not far off on that comment. The same comment made by a Google Android developer. Well, not in the same words, but to the effect that using more powerful hardware would make those type of problems a non-issue.
Do you have confirmation that we can pay to get rid of the ads on the new Fires? I haven't seen that anywhere yet.
First, Office for iPad is not far away.
Second, tablets should only replace laptops for users that request them - forcing tablets is a horrible idea. The consumerization of IT means that users will be bringing phones from home, and tablets will certainly follow. If a device can't join a domain, you shouldn't care where it came from, really.
Never said people would abandon Apple products.
Consumerization of IT works in the other direction, not Enterprise to Home.
When I made my post it wasn't announced it was coming to the UK. But now that it is, hmmmm, 16GB for the price of an 8GB Nexus 7...
Since I'm not an "Apple fan" and primarily use a desktop and laptop, I should agree. But I don't fully agree. There's nothing that should tie me to a desktop aside from games and very demanding applications - and there's certainly nothing my ThinkPad can do that a Surface or iPad can't aside from playing some old games or current games at minimal settings. Yes, I use Office, but that's going to be on every tablet platform in the near future.
Android 4.0 is confirmed:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/06/amazon-confirms-kindle-fire-hd-models-use-android-4-0/
And I believe in the US all the models are ad supported, but they are not in the UK:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/06/new-kindle-fire-hd-ad-supported/
Seems to me Google and other Android OEM's should be worried about the new Kindles as much if not more so than Apple. On some of the tech sites I'm already seeing comments from people who were planning to buy a Nexus 7 and but now are going to wait and get the Fire HD.