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Amazon.com Took The Specs Down
Amazon.com Took The Specs Down.
What's the point of delaying such an insignificant refresh? This means old dual 2's are a lot better than the "new" ones - more ram slots, faster PCI slots. What a bust. Well at least they'll ship with Tiger...
Amazon.com Took The Specs Down.
What's the point of delaying such an insignificant refresh? This means old dual 2's are a lot better than the "new" ones - more ram slots, faster PCI slots. What a bust. Well at least they'll ship with Tiger...
lewchenko said:Man, you need to change your brand of crack. Ive never heard such a crock of $*!@
Brain Washed indeed!!
LOL. That really made me laugh. Cheered me right up
lewchenko said:Man, you need to change your brand of crack. Ive never heard such a crock of $*!@
Brain Washed indeed!!
No S**T! Get over it folks this is it for now and It is what it is, a nice speed bump. You know what... It doesn't matter because when they do release the machine everyone wants now, people will bitch about those too.
Cooling solution for 3ghz found!
Not sure if this is real but i think IBM/apple found a way to cool the G5 with dual 3ghz
Not sure if this is real but i think IBM/apple found a way to cool the G5 with dual 3ghz
crpchristian said:Not sure if this is real but i think IBM/apple found a way to cool the G5 with dual 3ghz
Awesome. Now all they gotta do is hook that baby up to the super-ultra-thin-n-light Powerbook G5 12".
Waiting on parts
YEAH, now they're just waiting on parts from Frigidaire!!!
LOL.
crpchristian said:Not sure if this is real but i think IBM/apple found a way to cool the G5 with dual 3ghz
YEAH, now they're just waiting on parts from Frigidaire!!!
LOL.
disapointing to say the least.. im just hoping that they have been putting forth most of their effort towards a g5 powerbook!
I dont care about speed, i dont do any hardcore stuff that leaves me twiddling my thumbs. I am looking at getting a desktop mac to complement my ibook (bought as an OS X tester - it passed), but i dont like having a dedicated display, and have got used to dual screen desktops, so the imacs are out, and powermacs are in.
But after this much time how on earth havent they dropped in price? You can look at every component in that box and just KNOW it costs less now than it did at intro. Thats the way of the tech market - prices drop with time, with PCs like a rock. I appreciate the premium attached to macs as quality devices, but my instinct is that i am being fleeced paying those prices for what has been around for ages.
The powermacs are obviously priced from a marketing point of view - no bunch of components + profit % comes out at 2000/2500/3000. Apple have got to come up with the grunt/features to justify these prices, or drop them. Or they would if there was competition and it wasnt a monopoly, with used prices defined in reference to new which are in turn defined by the marketing bods (insert bill hicks quote here).
But after this much time how on earth havent they dropped in price? You can look at every component in that box and just KNOW it costs less now than it did at intro. Thats the way of the tech market - prices drop with time, with PCs like a rock. I appreciate the premium attached to macs as quality devices, but my instinct is that i am being fleeced paying those prices for what has been around for ages.
The powermacs are obviously priced from a marketing point of view - no bunch of components + profit % comes out at 2000/2500/3000. Apple have got to come up with the grunt/features to justify these prices, or drop them. Or they would if there was competition and it wasnt a monopoly, with used prices defined in reference to new which are in turn defined by the marketing bods (insert bill hicks quote here).
For some of us, the update isn't so bad. I'm using a 1st-gen single 1.8 ghz G5. I would love to have the dual 2.7, or even the dual 2.0! I do admit that the updates are comparitively lame to other companies' postings, but MAYBE WE WILL SEE A NEW CHRISTMAS PRESENT of multi-core processors and
even MAYBE, MAYBE, MAYBE EVEN THOSE HIGH DEF DVD BURNERS THAT WERE MENTIONED EARLIER....maybe
even MAYBE, MAYBE, MAYBE EVEN THOSE HIGH DEF DVD BURNERS THAT WERE MENTIONED EARLIER....maybe
Maybe it's time to dump IBM and go back to Freescale (Moto).
The G4 did make it from a high start of 450Mhz to a current 1.67Ghz. That is a 1220Mhz (1.22Ghz) improvement over the years. Of course, the G4 has been out around 6 years? The G5 is going on 2 years in June. By the time the G5 is 6 years old I can only imagine the speed and technology that will be in it. We probably will have a G6 by then, unless General Motors has G6 trademarked now since they have a car by that name.
The G4 did make it from a high start of 450Mhz to a current 1.67Ghz. That is a 1220Mhz (1.22Ghz) improvement over the years. Of course, the G4 has been out around 6 years? The G5 is going on 2 years in June. By the time the G5 is 6 years old I can only imagine the speed and technology that will be in it. We probably will have a G6 by then, unless General Motors has G6 trademarked now since they have a car by that name.
Funny how Apple on their own PowerMac page apple.com/powermac still call the old 2.5 GHz PM "The new Power Mac G5". A day before it's being made obsolete.
And I thought they're talking about the real "new" ones at first...
And I thought they're talking about the real "new" ones at first...
ShnikeJSB said:
And where are these vastly faster dual-core Dell systems anyway? I don't see them currently for sale on their website. All I can find is a dual-core 3.2GHz gaming rig that is coming later next month. When I look at Dell's website, I see their top end non gaming systems coming in with single core 3.8GHz processors, which is exactly 740MHz higher than what they were offering on there 2 full years ago. Hmm, that sounds a lot like the same progress that the Power Mac G5s have made over the same time period to me. So tell me how their PCs are "so much better" please?
Good summaryguez said:
True, but how much of this uninformed world is actually rushing out this week to buy a dual-core anything? And how many of THEM were truly going to get a Mac this week instead?ShnikeJSB said:
I think this fuss is 98% about bragging rights and egos, and 2% about people who actually have dire need for more speed than a dual-2.7 G5. Don't get me wrong--for my $2k-$3k I'd enjoy having the maximum bragging rights too
But not as much as I'd enjoy getting stuff DONE on my new Tiger box.Apple will keep on using the best of what BOTH have to offer. Someday that may be Freescale again, but now now--except for portables.Abercrombieboy said:
That is indeed odd, if these machines are what they seem. Apple has dropped prices for similar reasons in the past.mannybianco said:
I'd certainly recommend waiting if you don't need a PowerMac (or PowerBook) now. If you do--they're the best Macs that have ever existed, so go for it!
Another Sign For A Wednesday Release?
There is truth in that - we are never
Amazon.com Sales Rank: None
ASIN: B0007OW502
Date first available at Amazon: April 27, 2005
Although the info on the new 2.7 has been removed from the link (along with pic and price), the notation at the bottom probably reveals that Wednesday is the day. I've been holding out for this one, so I'll probably have to buy tomorrow, I'd be happy if the 23" would drop in price - why doesn't anyone rant about how expensive the displays are?
stealthrocket said:
There is truth in that - we are never
Amazon.com Sales Rank: None
ASIN: B0007OW502
Date first available at Amazon: April 27, 2005
Although the info on the new 2.7 has been removed from the link (along with pic and price), the notation at the bottom probably reveals that Wednesday is the day. I've been holding out for this one, so I'll probably have to buy tomorrow, I'd be happy if the 23" would drop in price - why doesn't anyone rant about how expensive the displays are?
Very disappointed.
This latest update is exceptionally disappointing. These incremental updates have to stop. The basic PowerMac G5 was released in mid-2003 and the architecture hasn't changed one iota since then. Same chassis, same motherboard, same chipset, same bus, same system controller (the awful and much maligned U3).
Where are the dual-core chips? One year later and we're nowhere near the famous 3 GHz mark. What about PCI Express? Has Bluetooth been update to 2.0 (like the PowerBooks)?
A couple of months ago we experienced an exceptionally disappointing PowerBook update, and now we're faced with an equally disappointing PowerMac update. Where's the revolution? When will we see something new?
I'm sure many of you will comment about how 2.7 GHz is really cool, or how the new DVD burner is wonderful, yada yada yada. But personally I'm starting to worry that Apple may be stuck in a quagmire, tentatively improving its products in fits and starts (once yearly!) rather than staying at the forefront of technology.
I was saving up some cash, but I won't be buying one of these toys. I hope Jobs has something up his sleeve to awe me at WWDC.
This latest update is exceptionally disappointing. These incremental updates have to stop. The basic PowerMac G5 was released in mid-2003 and the architecture hasn't changed one iota since then. Same chassis, same motherboard, same chipset, same bus, same system controller (the awful and much maligned U3).
Where are the dual-core chips? One year later and we're nowhere near the famous 3 GHz mark. What about PCI Express? Has Bluetooth been update to 2.0 (like the PowerBooks)?
A couple of months ago we experienced an exceptionally disappointing PowerBook update, and now we're faced with an equally disappointing PowerMac update. Where's the revolution? When will we see something new?
I'm sure many of you will comment about how 2.7 GHz is really cool, or how the new DVD burner is wonderful, yada yada yada. But personally I'm starting to worry that Apple may be stuck in a quagmire, tentatively improving its products in fits and starts (once yearly!) rather than staying at the forefront of technology.
I was saving up some cash, but I won't be buying one of these toys. I hope Jobs has something up his sleeve to awe me at WWDC.
WHOOOOOAH THERE HOSS!!!
Calm down man, I never said they were "vastly faster" or anything! I said that to "THE UNINFORMED", meaning some random Joe Shmoe PC-using @$$-face who doesn't gather any of his facts before defacing Apple, and have only used his/her school's/work's 3+ year-old single-G4 733MHz computers running 10.1.1 for their point of view, bases their entire Apple experience from crappily managed ancient Macs, will see this as a bad thing. Alright? Geez... -JB
Lancetx said:
Calm down man, I never said they were "vastly faster" or anything! I said that to "THE UNINFORMED", meaning some random Joe Shmoe PC-using @$$-face who doesn't gather any of his facts before defacing Apple, and have only used his/her school's/work's 3+ year-old single-G4 733MHz computers running 10.1.1 for their point of view, bases their entire Apple experience from crappily managed ancient Macs, will see this as a bad thing. Alright? Geez... -JB
Frobozz said:
Exactly, and that was my point when asking...apart from gaming, no PCs handily beat the G5 Dual (Athlon FX and Dual Xeons come close or match it)...even 5k or 10k beasts are at the same league as the "personal" G5 dual desktop.
Nothing new here; move along, citizens...