Amazon May Launch Smartphone with 3D Capabilities in September

[RiddlaBronc]

They aren't threatened, they just have no concept of reality and think anything that isn't Apple is literally the worst thing on earth. If Apple EVER does a 3D thing 90% of these people will be praising Apple for doing something new and revolutionary and magical. But since Apple isn't the company doing it, they may as well kill themselves for being worthless idiots.

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If you honestly think Apple is still using that motto you are out of your mind.

Agreed, these people are the ones I dont want to be associated with just for having an iphone.
Who cares what amazon does? They might hot it big or they dont. It is interesting what they will bring to the table. Keeps companies like apple on their toes.

 

[wxman2003]

I already have a 3D phone. My iphone 5s has length, height and width.

 

[MacMikePro]

Unlimited texts have been out for years; why would that be a selling point?

I think that joke just flew way over your head lol

 

[iTycho]

How is it different?

Apple diversified into markets they had never been present in.
Just like when the "Google Phone" was announced all those years ago.

What about the example someone gave regarding Nokia? They originally sold boots but moved onto become the mobile giant back in the early 00's.

Lol, are you SERIOUSLY asking how your ludicrous example of a coffe serving company (Starbucks) deciding to manufacture a phone differs from Apple (an actual ELECTRONICS company) branching slightly into the electronic music player industry??
If you seriously can't see the difference on your own, I doubt anybody here can help you.
Also, the Nokia anecdote would be more convincing if it were actually true. They made rubber products (boots, tires...) under a completely different company name back in the 1800s. They've been a mobile electronics company since the 1970s. They didn't become an overnight success in the mobile arena from an entirely different industry as you portray it, lol.

 

[TallManNY]

Anyone think there is a chance that Apple will make another flagship phone in the 4" form factor? I'd be curious to see the demand difference for different size phones if they came with the same high-end components. If the only difference was screen size and battery size, would the 4.7" phone be more popular than a 4" phone? The 4.7" phone would presumably have more room for a bigger battery, so it would last longer. But would some people want the more pocketable phone?

Ideally, for me, is if they came out with another top of the line 3.5" phone. I'd like the 4S just with modern components. On the other hand, a big screen does work well. I've got much bigger than average hands, so even a big phone is going to something I can use one handed. And they won't look funny up against my big noggin.

 

[iTycho]

I'm not trying to convince anyone. Just saying that you don't know how they'll implement it, and that it could be something good.
Just like previous implementation of fingerprint sensors were bad (and in the case of the GS5, apparently still is!), and Apple made something good from it. Who knows what Amazon could do? Maybe they have a good idea with it and it'll change the experience - in good.

I could see it providing a compelling multimedia experience in the tablet size - phone, not so much. I'm reserving final judgement however.

 

[Dave.UK]

Lol, are you SERIOUSLY asking how your ludicrous example of a coffe serving company (Starbucks) deciding to manufacture a phone differs from Apple (an actual ELECTRONICS company) branching slightly into the electronic music player industry??
If you seriously can't see the difference on your own, I doubt anybody here can help you.
Also, the Nokia anecdote would be more convincing if it were actually true. They made rubber products (boots, tires...) under a completely different company name back in the 1800s. They've been a mobile electronics company since the 1970s. They didn't become an overnight success in the mobile arena from an entirely different industry as you portray it, lol.

I take it you have failed to follow the conversation. One of your fellow Apple fans made the comparison to Starbucks releasing a tablet, not myself.

Like I said, next up, the Starbucks tablet!!!!!

Also, I didnt originally mention the Nokia making boots scenario.

And Nokia started by producing rubber boots.

Might help if you follow the conversation, rather then jumping in blind.

 

[LostSoul80]

Yeah I use it daily, what about it?

Oh nothing, other than it being a useless gimmick used by you.

 

[Yvan256]

Oh, a 3D display

I was hoping for a smartphone with a built-in 3D printer.

 

[brewcitywi]

great

i'm going to buy one, just so i can call someone and say, "Dude, I'm calling you from the Amazon!"

Then, I'm going to hang up and throw the phone into the ocean.

 

[wikiverse]

Amazon has as much business making a phone as Dell does making music production software.

Stick to what you know.

Could have said the same about apple, pre iPod.

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What is described here is just a parallax effect.

A parallax effect isn't the same as 3D, no matter how sophisticated the eye tracking is. The illusion only works when you're moving the phone around, otherwise it's just a regular 2D image, and both your eyes perceive the same thing (unlike true 3D where your left and right eyes perceive differently).

Unless there are details we don't know, this seems to only do what the iPhone does with homescreen icons, albeit with more precision.

No. This is a stereoscopic screen. Objects appear to be 3d.

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3d didn't sell TVs, didn't sell game boys, and won't sell this phone. A non-starter.

The Nintendo 3ds was one of the best selling game devices of all time.

 

[richman555]

I think its most interesting that Apple is quiet and mum keeping to their schedule. I think the competition is good and hopefully will light a fire at Cupertino. This is a big year for them in my opinion as they face increased competition on all fronts.

 

[SlCKB0Y]

Amazon has as much business making a phone as Dell does making music production software.

Stick to what you know.

I wonder where we would be if Apple had taken your advice before making the iPod, or the iPhone, or the iPad, or opening the iTunes music store...

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Boy, you're pretty thick, aren't you? Apple started that way. They were founded as a hardware/software company. It's their inherent nature. Amazon didn't/wasn't/it isn't.

Maybe these guys should have stuck to what they knew too...

Your advice is completely nonsensical.

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Lol, are you SERIOUSLY asking how your ludicrous example of a coffe serving company (Starbucks) deciding to manufacture a phone differs from Apple (an actual ELECTRONICS company) branching slightly into the electronic music player industry??
If you seriously can't see the difference on your own, I doubt anybody here can help you.

Apple is now a media distribution and cloud services company - that a very far from being a "hardware" company.

 

[KdParker]

I promise you this is going to be Amazon's demise. To suddenly compete in an area you have no clue in, with global financial markets on the brink, only the big ones will survive, and this category will only drag Amazon down to the gutter.

I promise you. Such a bummer. I love to shop on Amazon, and thats it! Shop! Nother more, no Kindle crap, no Streaming crap, just shopping for what its made for.

Be smart Amazon, stay focused on what u do best. Invest in faster shipping times instead.

1up if u agree.

I kinda agree, but we should wait and see what could show up. Never know what the next quantum leap in smart phone technology will be.

Before the iPhone Apple was just computer company moving into a market that was new to them and look what happened.

 

[wikiverse]

I promise you this is going to be Amazon's demise. To suddenly compete in an area you have no clue in, with global financial markets on the brink, only the big ones will survive, and this category will only drag Amazon down to the gutter.

I promise you. Such a bummer. I love to shop on Amazon, and thats it! Shop! Nother more, no Kindle crap, no Streaming crap, just shopping for what its made for.

Be smart Amazon, stay focused on what u do best. Invest in faster shipping times instead.

1up if u agree.

I tell you, the iPod will be the death of apple. They should stick to what they know, expensive desktop computers aimed at graphics designers.

Yep. Apple have no place in the music industry or in portable devices.

I promise you, the iPod will be the death of apple.

 

[B...]

Why don't you take one of your eyes out if you think 3D is a gimmic?

What a dumb thing to say!

3D is what we want and what we will have.
It's just that tech needs to grow to a point when it's actually possible to offer 3D in a manner we will enjoy.

So, if someone built a real working Star Trek Holodeck, you'd say pah, gimmic, and dismiss it as junk huh?

Same with films and all else.
If the technology was there to just sit there and see characters coming out or into the screen (like looking out a real window) then we'd all want it.

Perhaps even in time we shall have an interactive character walking around the room with us.

3D and such things are not junk, it just needs time to get there, and, as with all things we are doing the best we can, and trying the best we can with what we have.

I guess you would of been standing next to your horse, looking at the 1st cars to be made and said, pah junk, no one wants one.

Just have to give it time.

I just don't think 3D is useful for phones because it wouldn't provide any tactile feedback that we require to make use of inherently useful technology. Forcing features that the masses do not require, aren't cognizant of or will use after the novelty wears off isn't the way to proceed into the future of technology.

 

[Ericstephen]

The problem Amazon will have with a phone is branding? Eg, why call their new set-top box Fire TV...absolutely horrible.

Just imagine walking into an ATT store and the sales guy says "on this wall, we have our Amazon phones." When most people hear the word Amazon, they think of online shopping, not a phone. They need to come up with a brand name for their devices (not Fire) to even sell a million of these. That's if they don't release them off-contract for $250 to prime members. That's what worries me about Amazon. They're willingness to sell hardware at a loss. While they won't sell tens of millions, I could foresee them selling 10 million phones a year down the road. Not good for Apple. Even though their tablet sales have been mediocre, they still take away millions of unit sales from Apple every year.

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3d on a phone is a gimmick, with today's tech. On a tablet, done right, it could be a selling point.

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Anyone think there is a chance that Apple will make another flagship phone in the 4" form factor? I'd be curious to see the demand difference for different size phones if they came with the same high-end components. If the only difference was screen size and battery size, would the 4.7" phone be more popular than a 4" phone? The 4.7" phone would presumably have more room for a bigger battery, so it would last longer. But would some people want the more pocketable phone?

Ideally, for me, is if they came out with another top of the line 3.5" phone. I'd like the 4S just with modern components. On the other hand, a big screen does work well. I've got much bigger than average hands, so even a big phone is going to something I can use one handed. And they won't look funny up against my big noggin.

We are about to find out in a few months. Consumers will have the choice between a $200 4.7" iphone6 or a $100 4" iPhone5s. I believe the iPhone 6 will sell 3x for every one 5s sold. I don't think those numbers would differ if they also upgrade the 4" to the iphone6 internals and form factor.

 

[Ericstephen]

I'm merely trying to differentiate between the two sentences.. that have the same words but different meanings..

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No deceit.. I have no agenda. I honestly thought I'd read that u can load non Amazon apps onto the kindle.. it must have been sideloading apk's... My bad... As.they say in parts of the world.that are .. how do I put this.. a.bit slow...

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Actually, the Fire HD has been a flop relative to the iPad. I'd imagine that the sales have been half of what Amazon execs had projected. There are numerous reports that come out on a regular basis that report on tablet internet traffic, and Apple commands, I believe 85-90% of that. So,(like Cook said) if people are buying these other tablets, I don't know what they're using them for. Amazon still has sold millions of tablets, but the numbers pale in comparison, especially in the context of market share, to that of the iPad.



tablet sold millions.. how do you know no one wants.the phone.. the fire hd is a fine bit of kit..

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They spent a massive ammount of their profit on R@D and accusitions to make the business better, not the balance sheet... So at the end of the yr it looks like they have broke even, but in truth. The company has grown.. the day they stop growing, they will make large profits..

g

 

[mikefla]

Huh? There is plenty of Android junk out there already. Why bother, it will be as successful as Microsoft's Surface and their POS Windows-8 OS which nowadays they are literally trying to give away because nobody wants to pay so much for junk.


-Mike

 

[Ericstephen]

In the late '90s, Apple decided to consolidate operations to those that it could do best. Apple stopped making PDAs, printers, cameras, and everything but computers, monitors, and some software.

Then rumors came out about Apple making an MP3 player and most everybody belittled the concept. Why would Apple go back into the same non-essential businesses that cost Apple so much money and reputation before? The rest is history.

So with Amazon turning Prime into a streaming business, they compete with Apple in the "digital content delivery" market. Apple complements its market with devices such as iPhones and iPads. Right now Amazon has tablets covered, but is missing a cellphone. Right now Kindles and iPads serve separate markets anyway. If you want a new, $400+ tablet, you get an iPad. If you want a new, $200- tablet, you get a Kindle. The Amazon cellphone, likewise, will probably be priced 1/2 the iPhone 5C, and serve a market the 5C does not serve.

Nonetheless, so many people here attack Amazon, even though a new cellphone is so much more related to Amazon's core business than an iPod ever was for Apple 12 years ago. In fact, I would even wager, as a share of profit, Amazon's new cellphone and tablet ecosystem in 2014 will be greater than Apple's entire computer ecosystem is to Apple's profit.

Amazon's core business is internet shopping (shipped free and quick). How is an Amazon phone related to shopping. Every smartphone out there can download an Amazon shopping app or Amazon music player/movie player. People will NOT buy an Amazon phone for shopping or so they can stream their content, as it can already be done on other devices.

If Amazon's profit from their hardware and the revenue their hardware is so great, as you theorize, why don't they disclose it in their earnings. It's because 90% of their revenue is generated from purchases from I devices and other Android machines.

The only way they sell close to a million phones a qtr is if the price is in the $350 range. Amazon can't even compete with the iPad, and they sell the Fire at half, that's right, at half the price of the iPad. Amazon has sales nearly every month on the Fire, in the $169 price range. Sales must be brisk, huh?

Amazon is a bubble waiting to burst.

 

[DVDRAMMER]

How is an Amazon phone related to shopping.

You're not serious, right? Do the words "walled garden" ring a bell?

 

[Macist]

This will take the world by storm like the Facebook phone.

 

[DVDRAMMER]

This will take the world by storm like the Facebook phone.

Depends on the hardware. There's always room for a great-performing, low-priced phone. I never considered buying a new Android phone until I read about the Moto G. I bought two so far and am looking at an X.

 

[WilliamLondon]

The more competition the better!

People say this all the time, but what I think is that more competition is really about these companies grabbing at each other's slices of the profit pie.

Rather than have these guys build the same thing as already exists (multiple times over usually), imagine a world where they built new and cool things that weren't the same as what's already out there, that the things they offered us in a new product wasn't the same device wrapped in a different logo, but something totally new, totally different, where choice meant options in different, not options in same.

 

[DVDRAMMER]

People say this all the time, but what I think is that more competition is really about these companies grabbing at each other's slices of the profit pie.

Wild guess: you're not an economics major.