Of course they want to. They want to make an app for Chromecast too. Apple and Google will not let them.
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Amazon to Cease Selling Apple TV, Google Chromecast Over 'Prime Video' Incompatibility
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We don't know whether Apple has approved or denied an Amazon app for the new Apple TV. Apps haven't even been submitted yet.
What we do know is that Amazon seems to be very unhappy with Apple today. Personally I take this to mean that they were shot down by Apple.
Kind of lame if you ask me, since Amazon sells just about every commodity in existence from every possible category. I don't think there is any customer confusion whatsoever over "Prime". This is Amazon being petty. The new AppleTV is open for developers - Amazon could easily write an App for their service.
On the other hand, Apple has done the same kind of s%$t in their stores - discontinuing 3rd party products when Apple comes out with one of their own. I've always thought that was pretty petty too.
On the other hand, Apple has done the same kind of s%$t in their stores - discontinuing 3rd party products when Apple comes out with one of their own. I've always thought that was pretty petty too.
Do you really think Amazon would invest tons of money in a brand new app for Apple TV without checking first to find out whether it would be allowed in the store? I'm sure they already know the answer that none of us do.
The only way to check is to build the app and submit it. How do people not understand that the iPhone app and the iPad app, which are already in the store, are essentially proof that a Prime Video app is possible on tvOS and would be allowed.
Amazon is just butt-hurt that Google and Apple require a cut of the revenue if Amazon also includes the ability to purchase content on the app. That ability is completely optional though, as we see it is not present on the iPhone and iPad apps.
Hundreds of millions? We're talking about the Apple TV here, not some international crisis. Get a grip on your first world problems.
Your logic can just as easily be reversed. Amazon made an app for iPhone and iPad, so clearly they are willing to make an app for Apple TV too.
In actuality, I think Apple is not eager to introduce more competitors on their *main* TV streaming device. On iOS it doesn't matter as much, since fewer people will watch movies on their phone than on their TV.
I have to say this is a very stupid move for Amazon. Why would a retail company stop selling anything they make money off of? The second side of this is I have sold stuff myself on Amazon and they make a ton of money off of that! Once again why are they directing their customers to eBay. Stupid. As for the folks saying they don't sell Amazon products you folks are not all there. Try getting Guess jeans in a Polo store. This is one high up person at Amazon making a decision followed by a bunch of group think. It is really a slippery slope. You have to remember these apple and Google customers are pretty darn loyal. Amazon will figure this out quick.
As for the decision not to make an app for the Apple TV comes down to them not wanting to give 30% of income to apple on every customer it brings. This in my mind is a negotiating ploy that is way off. They should continue the model were customer just log in on the apple devise and don't sign up.
As for the decision not to make an app for the Apple TV comes down to them not wanting to give 30% of income to apple on every customer it brings. This in my mind is a negotiating ploy that is way off. They should continue the model were customer just log in on the apple devise and don't sign up.
I don't think you understand what Apple makes money from. Apple is a hardware company primarily. They make the vast bulk of their revenue from hardware sales. Look at any of their earnings reports for this. The money Apple makes from appstore cuts is relatively small compared to their hardware revenue.
On the flip side, Amazon is a services company. They make the vast bulk of their revenue from selling services - hosting, storefront, and Prime subscriptions. Again, this is supported in their earnings reports. Their hardware (kindle tablets, firetv, etc.) are pretty much loss leaders designed to get more people to buy Prime. It's all about Prime for them indeed. They don't make much money selling hardware.
Thus, while there is certainly overlap, Amazon and Apple aren't really competitors. Just like Netflix and Apple aren't really competitors. Thus, it's silly to say Apple would block Amazon to prevent a competitor.
Moreover, while Apple has been heavy handed in the past with app denials, it has been much better the past few years. The guidelines and rules are now thorough and clear. There is no reason for Apple to deny an amazon app in their guidelines.
Other blogs that wrote about this are right: this isn't about Apple not wanting an Amazon app. This is about Amazon not wanting to give Apple a cut of their sales made inside the app, and refusing to release an app that does streaming only.
Why would i be confused over this ??
Apple is Apple, ChromeCast is Chrome..
Just because the ban is not in place for apps from Roku, customers know that when they purchase don't they ?
Maybe its an indication to say "will won't let u refund if u make a mistake"
(I still like the Amazon remote better than Apple TV 4)
Apple is Apple, ChromeCast is Chrome..
Just because the ban is not in place for apps from Roku, customers know that when they purchase don't they ?
Maybe its an indication to say "will won't let u refund if u make a mistake"
(I still like the Amazon remote better than Apple TV 4)
Why not? They are often up to 20-25% cheaper. My late 2013 Retina MacBook Pro should have cost £1599 and thanks to Amazon I got it for £1199.
I have a Roku next to my AppleTV just so I can get Amazon Prime.....just add it already, Apple.
I really don't think that is the case. Why would apple and Google let the instant video app into their handheld devices store but not their TV store? I heavily wager it is Amazon that doesn't want to make it available. They went through lengths to stop a workaround people were using to get it to work on android Tvs by side loading as well.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...devices-because-they-hate-you-and-your-money/
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This is as much of a great idea as to develop a fire phone and hope it gains market share against iPhones or android phones... oh wait.
Two completely different business models. Apple's not in the retail business to make money selling 3rd party goods. The stores exist to promote and sell Apple gear, and any 3rd party products they sell exist to do the same.
I think this makes totally perfect sense, I mean after all why would you sell your direct competitors product, promoting them and their services as well as your own, and then why would you place your own services on these devices from your competitors and directly give 30% of your sales revenue directly to your direct competitors?
A fact most people seem to have ignored, you know, that condition of having apps on Google or Apple devices that means you HAVE to use in app purchases only and give 30% of the sales from those purchases to Google and Apple...
So well done Amazon for sticking up for yourselves.
A fact most people seem to have ignored, you know, that condition of having apps on Google or Apple devices that means you HAVE to use in app purchases only and give 30% of the sales from those purchases to Google and Apple...
So well done Amazon for sticking up for yourselves.
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Heh. I don't give a ****. They're welcome to continue delivering my stuff to me within hours. How often do you buy an Apple product on Amazon to begin with? Apple doesn't pay my rent, so I have no dog in the fight.
Not the same at all. Apple sells Apple stuff and select accessories. Amazon (is supposed to) sell everything.
TV 2 and 4 are like featurephone versus smartphone. With opening an AppStore the TV could become an open computing platform for all kinds of things. Just like a smartphone. A real computer in the shape of a TV screen. Unlike the watch, which is probably to small to be a real computer, a tv box is at least big enough for a smart device. Which doesn't mean that everything advertised as smart actually deserves to be called smart. With tvOS and watchOS Apple introduced two new development platforms. If one of them succeeds remains to be seen. The TV 2 not even tried, it had a menu not an operating system.
lolwut? Just use AirPlay. I've been doing this all the time lately to watch Transparent: load it up on an iPhone or iPad in the Amazon Video app, turn on AirPlay to AppleTV. Done.
ur a moron if you think people will ditch amazon royalty for something as trivial as this.
ROTFLMAO. Wow. The Kool-Aid pours like waterfalls sometimes. What a joke. AppleTV hasn't done SQUAT for sales for the past decade and now all the sudden Amazon is missing the "REVOLUTION". I'm sorry, but I own three AppleTV units and that is still the funniest thing I've ever read. That must be one damn SLOW "revolution" there.
Given Amazon's own new FireTV has 4K support and Apple has well...nothing. I think it's Apple that is in trouble and it's their own damn fault for being followers playing catch-up instead of leaders. Why would I want to pay 50% more for a 1080p device when Amazon already supports 4K?
Even so, I do think it's incredibly crappy of Amazon to not provide a Prime player for the new AppleTV, though. I thought they wanted to sign up as many people for Prime as possible seeing it's quite possibly thing that ever made them an actual profit up to this point. A few possible extra one time $99 hardware sales aren't going to make up for the loss of YEARLY renewal fees from those that would have otherwise bought their service and as this post shows, they clearly underestimate the power of fanaticism on the Apple platform which will cost them customers all around (Apple users are incredibly stubborn and hateful towards anything non-Apple, it seems).
You totally underestimate the utterly irrational stubbornness of Apple fanatics (perhaps about 25-40% of the Apple MAC market from my observations on places like these forums). I don't think iPhone users care about Apple the same way Mac users seem to so I doubt they as a whole would care that much to boycott Amazon. Given the Apple Macintosh market in general is only about 8% of the overall PC market and many Mac and iPhone users don't care about AppleTV period anyway, though, we're talking about less than 2% of all users out there. I doubt Amazon has all that much to worry about regardless.
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