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Your keywords here are "They've Probably". Which says you know nothing about the situation and are making up scenarios to justify Amazon's arrogant and insecure actions.

Are you not doing the same thing by taking the opposite position?
 

Amazon Prime is on just about every device that can stream, but not the Apple TV? same thing with Vudu


you think it's random coincidence both those streaming services are on everything but Apple's setup box?


wow
 
I think this makes totally perfect sense, I mean after all why would you sell your direct competitors product, promoting them and their services as well as your own, and then why would you place your own services on these devices from your competitors and directly give 30% of your sales revenue directly to your direct competitors?
You might ask the grown-ups at Apple and Microsoft, why they shared a stage at the iPad Pro event? Surface Pro vs iPad Pro, Office vs iWork, iOS vs Windows 10. These are direct competitors. Amazon is a reseller and logistics provider, who delivers me the stuff made by Microsoft and Apple. Maybe Amazon wants to be the company that makes my phone, my tablet and my tv box, but it isn't that company. Amazon is in competition with Walmart, not with Apple. Too bad they aren't "smart" enough to understand the difference.
 
Apple should have no bones to pick, since they refused support for Apple Music with Chromecast Audio.
 
Depends on how one looks at it, doesn't it.

(Microsoft is just included for comparison).

The market cap data in the attached chart is current to 4:30 PM Pacific Time today.
 

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Do you really think Amazon would invest tons of money in a brand new app for Apple TV without checking first to find out whether it would be allowed in the store? I'm sure they already know the answer that none of us do.

Is Netflix allowed on the new AppleTV? How about HBO? Showtime? Hulu? NBA League Pass? MLB Extra Innings? YouTube? USA?

No different than Prime video. Amazon is just pissy because it doesn't want to share revenue with Apple like all other platforms/content providers do when they enter the Apple eco-system.
 
Given Amazon's own new FireTV has 4K support and Apple has well...nothing. I think it's Apple that is in trouble and it's their own damn fault for being followers playing catch-up instead of leaders. Why would I want to pay 50% more for a 1080p device when Amazon already supports 4K?

As someone who recently replaced all my televisions with 4K devices, Netflix and Amazon 4k is complete crap. The only streaming service worth using for 4k at the moment is Sony's Video Unlimited 4k service or through a Mac Mini/HTPC & downloads.
 
Morons. First their reason is BS. If their customer can set up any of the devises they understand what they need to do to play the media. But evidently they completely forgot the video game strategy. The real money is made on the media, not the player. So they are cutting out a pretty high % of the potential sales.
 
Generally speaking Apple TV on Amazon is at most five dollars less then if you purchased it at an Apple store or best buy.

With Best Buy price match and the fact that Amazon charges sales tax in most states.
It's very unlikely I would've purchased it from them to begin with.

Beyond that why would you sell your competitions stuff in your store. Do you see any Amazon products in an Apple Store?
 
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ROTFLMAO. Wow. The Kool-Aid pours like waterfalls sometimes. What a joke. AppleTV hasn't done SQUAT for sales for the past decade and now all the sudden Amazon is missing the "REVOLUTION". I'm sorry, but I own three AppleTV units and that is still the funniest thing I've ever read. That must be one damn SLOW "revolution" there. :D
And it has been a slow revolution so far. Officially described as a "hobby" by Steve Jobs himself. TV 1, 2 and 3 don't have an AppStore. They aren't even part of the revolution. Just like the Motorola ROKR with iTunes wasn't part of the coming iPhone revolution. That doesn't mean the revolution isn't real.
Given Amazon's own new FireTV has 4K support and Apple has well...nothing. I think it's Apple that is in trouble and it's their own damn fault for being followers playing catch-up instead of leaders. Why would I want to pay 50% more for a 1080p device when Amazon already supports 4K?
So how is Amazons low level compiler? Are they able to recompile bytecode in submitted apps from last year for custome designed ARM chips, which won't be available until next year? Because that is some of the innovation coming to iOS 9 and subsequently to tvOS 2. How do you think Amazon can lead in the mobile OS era, without an successful mobile phone? 4K is a specification, not a system, not a service, not a product. We had the exact same thing with Android phones, which had bigger screens and higher mega pixel cameras than the iPhone. While being the most profitable company on earth and in history, they've been accused of playing catch-up with the competition. When in fact they developed Touch ID and 3D Touch. Can you imagine to buy TV shows with your fingerprint? Apple has the technology in house to advance whenever it sees fit.
(Apple users are incredibly stubborn and hateful towards anything non-Apple, it seems).
And for a good reason. Amazon Prime is just a business model, like subsidized phones against two year contracts. The experience of Watching TV won't become any better because of that.
 
17 pages of the pot calling the kettle black. This is a classic Steve/Apple move but when the shoe is on the other foot everyone goes ape bleep. I don't see Apple making apps for Fire, Chromecast, Roku. Fair is fair, ya hypocrites. BTW I own a FireTV, Roku Stick, AppleTV3, Tivo, Xbox One and 360 and the Fire is the best of those.
 
But what stops them from making a Prime instant app for these platforms?

What stops them is that Apple insists on all apps only using their payment system for digital downloads and that Apple takes a whopping 30%. Since all the movie/tv licenses cost basically the same from the studios to Apple, Google, Netflix ... whoever. They can't really compete by giving their competitor 30% of the price.

This is the exact reason the Kindle app on iOS is so silly.


-Phil Ives
@Rain_everywhere
 
I would never buy an Apple product from Amazon.

Why not? It's not always convenient to go to an Apple store but Amazon deliver to my home quicker than Apple do. It's not an Apple/Amazon thing, I just buy from places that are the most convenient and give me the best price. Simples.
 
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This is abusive. Amazon will lose a lot of very loyal Apple customers as a result of this. I know I'll never buy another thing from Amazon now they've decided to try and hurt sales of the Apple TV. I hope hundreds of millions of other people take a similar stand.

Not sure if you are being serious. I just walked in the Apple Store and there were no Fire TVs there, or Echos for that matter. This is not gonna hurt Apple or Amazon. And it makes sense. So no drama here.
 
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I think it will be along time before the new AppleTV get's a proper Amazon Video App. Such a shame because they have a lot of good content.

Amazon would be better off working with actual TV manufactures and getting their app installed directly on smart TV's. Perhaps this has already been done?
 
So I don't understand... So Amazon why are you selling eeeevery other Apple product??? lol.. never mind smh!! Waste of time/effort
 

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Amazon would be better off working with actual TV manufactures and getting their app installed directly on smart TV's. Perhaps this has already been done?

Um, it's on like.... EVERY smart tv. The only ones it's not on are smart tv's with android TV that are not Sony made. Somehow Sony got an exclusive on Amazon Prime for their android tvs. There was a way to side load, but google had to disable it because of this stupid contract sony got Amazon to sign.
 
They allowed them to publish the iPhone/iPad version. So I don't think that's the case.
they would have to give up 30% if someone rents or buys a movie in the app. That is their entire profit margin or more. The IOS app only lets you view items you already purchased of free prime streaming.
 
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I don't think it is a matter of Amazon not wanting to make an App for the AppleTV. It is Apple not allowing them to publish it. Apple sees Amazon as a direct competitor to iTunes... and they are.

This is a good point. We may not know the details and this might be a response to Apple being retarded. But why wouldn't Google allow Prime on? I love prime video on the iPad (although prime used to allow you to edit your history and now like Netflix they don't). I hope Prime is on the Apple TV. But if not - PS3.
 
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