Apple stopped selling fitbit after they made the watch. Amazon is not a monopoly, they are free to compete.
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Amazon to Cease Selling Apple TV, Google Chromecast Over 'Prime Video' Incompatibility
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Apple stopped selling fitbit after they made the watch. Amazon is not a monopoly, they are free to compete.
So much for playing catch-up.
You can optimize an ARM CPU only for so much. One kind of video format (MP4 H.264 AAC) must be enough. Its outright amazing how little battery the iPad uses, when you play video. Even the illegal file sharing community has adopted Apples video standard. To reduce options makes for a better more optimized product.
You mean older games from other platfroms? Apple doesn't own them and can't provide them legally.
Only as long you define gaming by a certain type of controller. I loved gaming with a joystick, but more and more PC games used mouse and keyboard controls only. Only when every iPhone, iPad and TV comes with a gamepad included, iOS gaming will develop in that direction.
All gaming is a waste of time and no iOS device is primary meant for that purpose. For real gaming please buy a complete PS4, not just the controller.
In two years from now there will be a much faster TV 5 that supports 4K.
In that case the shrinking market share was a symptom not the problem that caused the developer interest to vanish. Today Objective-C and Swift are among the 10 most sought after programming languages in the world. Pencil, Pay, 3D Touch and other new technologies only create more and more reasons to develop for iOS. That wasn't the case when Apple got into trouble.
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Unless I'm missing something blindingly obvious, wouldn't it have to be down to Amazon to write a Prime application for Chromecast? This is why I like Netflix. Their only vested interest is selling Netflix subscriptions, hence the massive cross-platform compatibility.
I think the revolution already happened and Apple weren't there.
There are much better offerings than ATV nowadays. ATV is seen as fringe product outside the U.S.
Makes total sense...to prevent the competition from winning the race, Amazon is going to commit suicide.
Apple is not a marketplace with multiple sellers. Apple is a company that sells their products and third party products that complement their products.
Amazon is a marketplace. Huge difference!
Get it?
I think you just sit there and look for some snappy response (I'm sure you love me saying snappy too), but don't think about it logically at all. The POINT that you seem to have missed is that they USED to innovate to some extent or at least vastly improve on something, but after Jobs it seems they have been playing CATCH UP most of the time. Yeah so much for playing catch-up....
That has to be the most ridiculous statement I've ever read. WTF do you think I have XBMC on my AppleTV? It's so I can watch those formats. They WORK JUST FINE. Optmize? Optmize has NOTHING to do with it. It's Apple trying to force you to use their preferred format and nothing else. You can't preview those formats in OS X anymore with the space bar and it has nothing to do with the fastest CPUs ever made not being able to handle them in OS X (in case you wanted to apply the same logic there).
There you go talking about other mobile products again... WTF is wrong with you? I'm talking about AppleTV. It does not and has NEVER run on batteries! (face-palm)
No, I do not mean from other platforms. I mean older games. I have Wolfenstein right here and it runs fine on my 2008 Macbook Pro. I have Half-Life and Half-Life 2, etc. etc. etc. and they all would run fine on the new AppleTV if they wanted to release them for it, but they won't ever run on it because Apple won't let them release controller-only games.
Are you from another planet or something??? I'm talking about the App Store and developers being able to release games with actual real controls, not a magic wand with all of 2 buttons and a rocker switch.
I don't care if the game uses a controller or a keyboard and mouse. Both games use more than a moving wand and 4 total buttons! Or are you supposed to ask Siri to press the other buttons and move you in any direction? Siri, go southwest! Go faster! Now throw a grendade! No, not that way Siri!
Do you know the difference between a phone and a console? They're advertising the new AppleTV as home console for entertainment including games. You don't need a controller on a phone. It makes no sense. But gaming in the living room DOES make sense. The new FireTV has a game controller mode. Why doesn't Apple?
Oh, there you go. Gaming is a waste of time.... no crap. That's what it's for! Wasting time! (face-palm)
I can say that texting is a waste of time, so Apple shouldn't support that either.
It would probably save a lot of lives on the road an that is no joke.
Too bad for those with a 4K set now. Oh wait. They can go buy a FireTV right now that has 4K on it. We're not back to my original point. The new AppleTV SUCKS. They missed an oppportunity to get out front with the other media players and they said, "No, let's let them take the market first and play catch-up as usual." You don't get it because you're too busy ranting about how awesome Apple is and telling me things like iPhones need controllers first and gaming is a waste of time (the usual excuse Mac users always made to explain why Apple's support for gaming in OS X itself sucks so bad but when Steam comes out for OS X they go all excited. We'll show those PC users now! Yeah, fanatical hypocrisy knows no bounds.
Honestly, you're wasting my time and my time is valuable to me.
As others have probably said, Apple did not refuse to allow Apple Music on Audio. They simply haven't utilized that API. Big difference. One implies anticompetitiveness. The other, simple disregard.
Apple is innovating like crazy. watch, tv, iPad Pro, new MacBook, 3D Touch. All in one year! They are firing on all canons. Steve Jobs would be a proud father. I can hear him saying: Isn't that cool?
Sure it does. CPU, GPU, Motion Co-Processor. These are all compute units, just optimized for different task of computation. Your ARM chip is optimized for H.264 video decoding. This is the best quality, smallest file size, lowest energy, lowest heat, video you can possibly get. It's an industry standard. Especially when binch-watching hours of video you should use this format for heat concerns alone.
Be a nice kid and let them force you. It's for your own good. Now go brush your teeth!
As I told you before, all these smart devices in the end are little ARM computers. And the biggest most profitable segment of the market are smartphones. The development of ARM hardware and software will always be driven by what works best in a phone. Last years iPhone chip is your new this years tv chip. The same is true for games. Only the most succesful iPhone games will be ported to the tv. So even if you don't care about battery life, developers do.
But Intel-based Mac is another plattform. You can't just run OS X apps on iOS, you know that??
No they won't run, not even with a controller. They were made for a very different kind of computer.
A smart television is by definition a computer controled with a remote not keyboard and mouse. What you want is to sit on a couch and control a wall-mounted iMac with a wireless keyboard. I'd do that, but that's not the standard living room experience for everyone and his mother. One tv with one remote - that's how it's got to be - period.
Given the keynote that is exactly what they expect you to do. Voice control enables a whole other kind of games, but so did touchscreens.Or are you supposed to ask Siri to press the other buttons and move you in any direction? Siri, go southwest! Go faster! Now throw a grendade! No, not that way Siri!
Because Apple doesn't want to make another console for the kids. They want to figure out the future of TV for mom and dad.
You're not supposed to use your iPhone while driving a car, that's what CarPlay is for. And Messages in CarPlay is purely audio. You never see or read a text, neither incoming nor outgoing.
Early adopters will end up buying all kinds of trash. Like three tv's that don't do what they want. There were a bunch of HDTVs before a standard emerged. HD ready, Full HD, Full HD Ready, HD ready 1080p. Who knows what kind of 4K interface will become the industry standard? It's a perfect Betamax oportunity to waste some money. Smart customers wait.
How would copying the FireTV create an opportunity? Amazon is famous for making almost no profit per revenue and Apple became the richest tech company on earth by not doing what you expected. Maybe thinking different™ is profitable! You should try.
If there is an opportunity in the TV sector, it's not running old games.
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there is no clear definition on what the word marketplace means. for your obviously it means everything must be sold on amazon even though there are lots of things you cant buy on amazon.
also there is no clear definition on what the world complement means. obviously for you bose and fitbit somehow dont complement iphones anymore.
i dont recall amazon ever having decent prices for iphones and think their ipad offerings got worse after the fire was released.
amazon has just as much right as apple to make these decisions no matter how much you want to paint them as polar opposites.
still i think its lousy decision for consumers.
with all the accessories (thousands probably) they make and the fire tv, tablets and the ever so popular fire phone they are certainly getting more and more into the hardware business.
this is no different than apple throwing out other products from its stores and their recent privacy model (which to me is nothing but a pr move). both have millions of customers come to them and they want to severely limit a) the customers choices and b) that other business can reach them.
this free market competition is becoming like bull fighting.
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This's makes Iva bone headed move on Amazon! Like others have said sense Amazom Prime apps are on the iPhone & IPad so why would it be so hard to put that same App on the TVOS App Store? So this move by a bad PR move will case more Apple and Google customers to OverStock.com app.
If Overstock is on the on the all they will have their App on TVOS store right at the start.
If Overstock is on the on the all they will have their App on TVOS store right at the start.
This's makes Iva bone headed move on Amazon! Like others have said sense Amazom Prime apps are on the iPhone & IPad so why would it be so hard to put that same App on the TVOS App Store? So this move by a bad PR move will case more Apple and Google customers to OverStock.com app.
If Overstock is on the on the all they will have their App on TVOS store right at the start.
Because they want to keep 100% of their profits and want to kill Apple's and Netflix's marketshare. I hate this move because I use Netflix and Prime for video/music and they've now made the decision for me to keep using my XBONE as my streaming portal. The issue is on secondary tv's the apple tv is not an option for me which is frustrating.
I think the point is that Apple is actively blocking Amazon. Kind of a dick move in my opinion. They certainly to be interested in the best user experience for their customers.
How is Apple blocking Amazon? I can get Amazon Prime on my iPad! Your argument goes up in smoke! Amazon could easily recompile that app for TVOS if they wanted too!
i said stores which i wrote in plural to try and indicate the physical stores. but anyway i searched the online store and found 4 bose items (actually have no idea how many there were 2 years ago), 1 nest camera and nothing from fitbit. amazon also stopping/banning the sales of all apple goods.
but what point are you trying to make?
The lack of an app on Apple TV made me cancel my Amazon Prime subscription. I don't want another device under the TV and watching via a laptop is a hassle.
Instead of pushing people to buy their hardware, Amazon should have just added Prine TV to Aplle TV.
Instead of pushing people to buy their hardware, Amazon should have just added Prine TV to Aplle TV.
The point is Apple has limited space in their physical stores so obviously they're going to give priority to their own products. Apple stores were created to showcase Apple products, not other people's stuff. If they need more room for Watch or Beats headphones something else is going to go. Amazon wasn't created to sell Amazon products. Amazon doesn't have the limitations of physical retail space. People have an expectation that they can get just about anything on amazon.com. I don't think anyone has the same expectation when going to an Apple store.
Amazon was created to sell physical books. But what a company was meant to be can change over time and it's not the problem. This move indicates that Amazon wants to win the competition not based on the merits of their product itself, but by reduced visibility and availability of FireTV alternatives in the market. That's an almost Microsoft-like shabby business practice. Imagine Apple would (ab)use it's power over WebKit to hide all webpages in Safari which let you buy competing products from Amazon and Google. There would still be other browsers to buy FireTVs with and no-one could blame Apple for not being too happy about that there own software is used to support a direct competitors business. You don't need to be happy about competition, but you're not allowed to hinder competition either.
does it matter what amazon was created to do? as gudi says that has changed dramatically over the years and the apple stores have as well. i cant see how one has more right to change (although the motives for both is obvious) than the other one no matter how much it infuriates us. my expectations for an apple store would be obviously their products and the best accessories but they take a slightly different route.
btw that other peoples stuff as you put it was immensely beneficial to apple but just like amazon when they decide to enter the market that means nothing.