It is Apples fault that their is not a Prime App on the apple device. Amazon tries to work with apple. Apples sticks its head up its own ass.
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Amazon to Cease Selling Apple TV, Google Chromecast Over 'Prime Video' Incompatibility
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It is Apples fault that their is not a Prime App on the apple device. Amazon tries to work with apple. Apples sticks its head up its own ass.
I have a Fire and a Roku, but I don't like their UI as much as I like Apple TV's, so I tend to watch a lot more Hulu and Netflix these days, simply because they're already in front of me. I fire up the Fire when I think a new season of Alpha House (Amazon's excellent exclusive show starring John Goodman) might be coming out, and then, if it's there, I mainline the episodes and return to Apple TV. If the Amazon app were on my main viewing device, I'd probably watch a lot more of it.
In short, I just want to watch Alpha House on my Apple TV.
In short, I just want to watch Alpha House on my Apple TV.
That can't be true - Netflix has an app, and Apple said that these services will be able to integrate their catalogues with the new AppleTV and Siri.
Amazon actually already have an app for iOS - https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/amazon-video/id545519333?mt=8
It seems they may try to hold out on porting it to the AppleTV for purely business reasons - to try and put pressure on Apple and the device and to stop it succeeding. I don't think Prime Video is big enough for them to have that kind of power.
I'm on the Apple website right now and I see several products by Bose. Apple sells many different companies head phones but they aren't an online market place that will sell anything and everything under the sun like Amazon. So not even close to being the samething. Apple doesn't have to sell anyone elses products because they are a Manufacturer that sells their own products. They have a store and sell other items as a convenience to their customers but it's not what Apple does to make money. Amazon on the other hand makes their money by selling mostly other peoples crap. Only recently they decided to start making their own phones, devices, etc... so they could promote their own crap.
Amazon has the right to sell (or not sell) whatever the hell it wants (within legally binding considerations). I am VERY much looking forward to the new AppleTV but I won't buy one UNTIL there is an Amazon Instant Video app for it. Period.
If, for some reason, Apple isn't allowing/won't allow an Amazon Instant Video app on the AppleTV (which I feel is unlikely to be the case), then Apple deserves to get sued over it.
Apple, you've got until the end of the year! If there's no Amazon Instant Video app for the new AppleTV by December 31, I'll be buying a Roku. Once I buy a Roku, I'll have ZERO interest in an AppleTV.
Mark
If, for some reason, Apple isn't allowing/won't allow an Amazon Instant Video app on the AppleTV (which I feel is unlikely to be the case), then Apple deserves to get sued over it.
Apple, you've got until the end of the year! If there's no Amazon Instant Video app for the new AppleTV by December 31, I'll be buying a Roku. Once I buy a Roku, I'll have ZERO interest in an AppleTV.
Mark
I love Amazon and shopping through them... but honestly I don't watch Amazon Prime as much as I should considering I have been paying their subscription for years. Now that I think of it I never have watched a movie in Amazon Prime.
I think this is hizzy fit and a great way to extrapolate massive advertising... they announce first Apple TV won't be sold on Amazon anymore, because of blah blah blah... then they release the app on the new apple tv, and it rebounds 10x louder because now amazon has an apple TV app...
Well it doesn't matter. I was going to pick up the new apple TV from an apple store anyways...
I think this is hizzy fit and a great way to extrapolate massive advertising... they announce first Apple TV won't be sold on Amazon anymore, because of blah blah blah... then they release the app on the new apple tv, and it rebounds 10x louder because now amazon has an apple TV app...
Well it doesn't matter. I was going to pick up the new apple TV from an apple store anyways...
You're saying Amazon has the right to sell or not sell whatever but Apple should get sued if they don't allow Amazon on THEIR product! You're wrong on so many levels it boggles the mind.
You can always stream it from your iPad or iPhone to the AppleTV and eventually Amazon will have an App.
Well, that's a good point, I guess, but what I was talking about is something that's built into the OS itself, the design of the home screen, the way the overall product works. What you're talking about is something that I would again need to delve into a discreet app for. If the iPhone and iPad (which I both use daily) are any indication, Apple has no intentions of ever letting us install apps on Apple TV that will have that sort of customization power over the device's UI/UX. When Apple stated at their recent event that "the future of TV is apps," I thought, gee, I really hope not. I want a device where these streaming services (Netflix, Amazon Prime, Showtime, etc.) are more or less just content pipes that feed a well thought-out, integrated UI/UX. Beyond the voice-controlled Siri search, I really saw nothing in the new Apple TV that moves us closer to that ideal and I believe there's very little any company other than Apple can do to further move the Apple TV in that direction. That said, there are some who believe that a radically overhauled UI was originally planned for the new Apple TV to coincide with the launch of a new Apple subscription video service (their answer to Sing TV or PlayStation Vue) and that once that service finally rolls out (if it ever does), we'll see that new UI.
Of all the thing that Siri seems to get wrong is TV show names, Movie names and actress/actor names. With Siri in the AppleTV, it'll have a context for that movie name (the one I'm currently watching) and for the peoples names in that movie.
I'm guessing I'll even be able to ask who plays a character by first name while watching a show and it'll figure it out.
I hope!
Gary
Rainbows are real, you know?
A necessary but not sufficient condition for creating a successful smart device is a modern mobile OS with a viable developer community. The only other option is Android and Google has no interest in helping Amazon (or Samsung for that matter) to fork it. No one but Apple has control over its own software, hardware and services.
Yes it is, but then why do you own three of them? For any kind of multiplayer gaming you would need at least two of those stupid remotes. So even TV 4 doesn't try to be a low-end gaming console. Instead it offers an even bigger screen for classic iPhone gaming like Angry Birds. Which may be a good idea. Apple isn't Nintendo, Sega or Sony and neither is Amazon. They both don't have the expertise to be a worthy competitor in real gaming. But the iPhone is the master of casual gaming. With their own custom designed chips and graphics language, Apple can still innovate in TV gaming, even without a classical D-Pad and Fire buttons.
A failed attempt at mobile gaming.
Apple will offer 4K when they (and everybody else) are ready. Today only the iMac with Retina Display has enough resolution and UHDTV is a niche accounting for less than 1% of the TV market.
Isn't it funny that even an 80% market share can't convince developers to jump ship? BMW's global market share of passenger cars is 3%, up from 2% at the beginning of the century. Being in a niche doesn't mean you're dead. Having the biggest market share doesn't mean you're safe. Ask Nokia.
The iPhone never dominated in market share, yet it formed the best developer community.
It's all the same. When I say biggest company, I don't mean the average employer body size. Revenue and profit make a company big and valuable.Ah, I see your corrected yourself to "profitable" rather than biggest or most valuable.
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If the new AppleTV was a "closed" system, like the old AppleTV, I'd see your point. But the new AppleTV will eventually have apps from hundreds of different developers made available through a tvOS app store.
With the old AppleTV you had to "hack" it to get PLEX to run on it. With the new AppleTV you'll simply download the PLEX app.
The two devices are VERY different in that regard.
Therefore, if Apple were to prevent Amazon from adding a Amazon Instant Video app to the tvOS app store, you are darn tooting that Apple will get sued, and rightfully so.
I think Amazon's gripe is not being included in the "default" apps that get searched by SIRI. THAT is something that Apple has control over.
Mark
Apple did pull all Bose products from the store shortly after purchasing Beats but bought a limited range back two months later.
Nothing stops them... they simply want people buying their own competing hardware instead. Putting Prime on AppleTV just gets them a video customer. On the other hand every Fire device is essentially relocating you to Amazon's store.
Back in the day, Apple used to be the only real game in town for whole house audio/video off a computer hard drive. That changed over time. I do like Airplay options, but the lack of an Amazon Prime viewer makes the new device unappealing even without 4K or gaming. The App Store was supposed to fix the things Apple refused to fix (like supporting non-Apple video formats like AVI and MKV). Those might get support from KODI or someone else (VLC), but based on Amazon's recent moves, I find an Amazon Prime player unlikely.
Why would I need/want mulitplayer gaming? I'd just like the option to play actual real games on the thing, even if they're older games. That remote it comes with doesn't cut it. If they allowed Bluetooth controllers like the PS3/PS4 to work iwthout requiring the game to run with just the remote, there might be a limited game market for it. By requiring the remote to play the games, they killed any chance of any real games ever appearing.
If Angry Birds is the only game this can ever play, it's a waste of time.
And two years from now that number will look quite different and you'll either have to do without if you own a 4K TV, buy from someone else or wait indefinitely for some future vaporware Apple product.
No because the healthiest the Mac software share EVER was in all of history was about 20% and it had big software support back then. Then the share dropped and dropped and when it went below 10% the software support got harder to find. When it dropped below 5%, it all but disappeared.
I think Apple is hesitant to ask its customers to internalize too many UI changes at once. Without being able to achieve their real goal, which is to build the set top box for live TV viewing through their subscription service, they probably didn't have enough to offer people to get them to learn the new UI and learn to use Siri.
The other content providers are going to really resist being just content pipes though. And that is going to hurt our eventual UI. If you look at how much time and effort the TV stations put into their network brand you can see how serious this is. Heck they will even sometimes cover their content with a little picture of their logo during a show. Personally, I couldn't tell you the difference between CBS, NBC and ABC or at all what shows are on any of those channels. Partly that is because I don't watch live TV. But even when I did I couldn't tell you. I know Fox as a brand for its political views though. But I just go where the content is not to any particular brand. The Networks hate that. And I suspect so will the other providers like Netflix and HBO. And you are probably right that an App won't be able to do aggregate things any better either due to limitations imposed by Apple and the other content providers.
Personally when I turn on my new Apple TV I want the top line to be five shows that Apple TV thinks I want to watch. It is generally obvious. If I haven't watched the latest Walking Dead or Game of Thrones, I generally want to watch that. If I'm caught up there, then suggest Last Week Tonight or the Daily Show. Looking at what I watched last and predicting is easy and I'd rather that was on the top screen than anything else.
Neither company is good! Most, if not all corps are garbage. Apple and Amazon both have a lot of employees in the US that work and get paid below the poverty level.
1. Apple allowing ad blockers? It most likely is an assault on one of Google's main sources of revenue "ads".
2. Apple has removed many competing products from its stores (Software and non software) and replaced them with its own products.
1. Apple allowing ad blockers? It most likely is an assault on one of Google's main sources of revenue "ads".
2. Apple has removed many competing products from its stores (Software and non software) and replaced them with its own products.
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