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Software update? Doesn't the ATV have an A5 and 512MB of RAM? This thing is quad core and 2 GBs. The ATV is not fit for gaming in it's current state. It's gonna need a hardware and software overhaul.

In comparison of GPU: Apple TV kick Fire TV ass. (Consider it's a three years old CPU vs a new CPU)
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Qualcomm-S4-Pro-Adreno-320-arm,16414.html
Besides, Apple is looking for rendering everything on your phone, then push it to Apple TV by Airplay Mirror. (Why else would they try to fuse an Apple TV with Airport Express? )

It is the same argument and math in CarPlay <=> Android on car:
For a product with a longer lifetime then the technology improvement cycle, and the technology only affect a partial of your user experience:
Should you buy a product that need you to replace the whole product to get upgrade (Android), or the product that upgrade whenever you upgrade your iPhone?

P.S. Given what I got from iPad 2 gaming, 512MB is enough to play light weight game
And for hardware monster games, please left it for game consoles.
2xApple A7 is only close to Xbox 360, it's a long way to complete with Xbox One or PS4.
 
I guess people aren't allowed to like and purchase Apple products nor are they allowed to celebrate Apple on an a dedicated Apple enthusiasts board without being labeled an iSheep. :rolleyes:

Sure people are allowed to do so...BUT...when doing so with blind religious zeal some other beings may object.

As someone being somewhere in the middle, I do like lots of apple products but that does not make me close my eyes to some of teir shortcomings. (for example I like my iPhone as it (currently) gives me the best overall experience, but I still realize that the notification center is sub par at best, Safari can not keep 2 pages in memory and audiobook handling has become more and more useless with each change made to the music app)

Maybe, what you perceive as Apple hatred is just the frustration of some people on this forum, that a company that traditionaly is very good at taking existing tech and recombining it to a superior user experience, is loosing that edge by changing it's attitude from "well, you may have heard of it but we made it soooooo much better" to "this is new, no one has ever done anything like it...ah, and we invented fire and the wheel too".

Again, I realy realy like some if not most Apple products, but somehow the current way of doing business and developing products somehow seems to show negative effects on those products (more bugs in iOS and OSX, Form over Function Designs [I guess no iPhone user would have minded if it did not get 2mm thinner and instead got a bigger battery so heavy use would not create the necessity to load that thing during lunchbreak)

To sum it up in one sentence: I only pick on Apple because I know in my guts that with just a little bit less self-centeredness they could deliver products that are so much better then they already are.
 
Amazon doesn't care about the money, so they just buy the copyright and give you for free. (Since their money is from the Prime subscription. )
And that's why you got this: http://www.amazon.com/s?rh=n:2864549011,p_85:2470955011

I never cared about Amazon Prime, since it is not available where I am from. But damn, that's some **** content...

Thanks for your breakdown. You've put a real thought into this and it sounds about right!
 
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I don't get the hype. Whichever way you look at it, whether you're streaming from a handheld device or accessing apps on a set-top box, you're still dipping in and out of apps.
The only thing that will move this forward will be a centralised hub where content from a whole host of providers is available.
This is not that device.
I'll continue to Airplay content from pretty much any app I like to my "archaically slow" ATV2 while I wait for that to come.
 
You know its high time for Apple to come up with something new when most Macrumors posts are about non-apple stuff.
 
Plex is a big one for me, something Apple TV doesn't do. We're looking for a set-top box for the bedroom, but it would have to run Plex (as well as Netflix, etc).
It's something this user demands before buying an Apple TV.

It isn't too much work to setup PlexConnect with the current Apple TV. No jailbreaking required. Not for everyone but I love it. Would be amazing as out of the box functionality but probably too much to hope for.
 
Day by day I keep forgetting this is an Apple Enthusiast forum because most of what I see are people showing so much hatred towards Apple and praise for their competition, especially when the competition hasn't really done much in the past to earn so much adulation from the people here. Apple's competition does one or two decent things and all of a sudden the usual Apple sucks one liners roll out while calling other people sheep for liking what Apple offers. My mistake, I guess people aren't allowed to like and purchase Apple products nor are they allowed to celebrate Apple on an a dedicated Apple enthusiasts board without being labeled an iSheep. :rolleyes:
Not sure I agree. I lurk around here and am pretty bored of the threads/comments that bring Samsung in to the discussion in a negative way when the original post has nothing to do with them
 
Voice search is handy. I've been using that for a while with the iOS Remote app for AppleTV. Whenever there's a text field and you get a keyboard, just tap the mic and talk into the phone.

The benefit with using the iOS Remote app is of course the voice recognition software is adapted to my voice (from using it on the phone in general). I wonder how Amazon's box will cope with having multiple people using it?

Amazon's clearly building out their media "ecosystem", and it's nice to see some viable alternatives to iTunes.

For anyone who hasn't ever seen or used an AppleTV, I guess this Amazon box will look pretty amazing. But for those who are familiar with AppleTV, it's hard to see how this isn't just a copy?
 
It did seem like Apple got beat to the punch, stole some of their thunder.

Hey! Give Tim Cook time. It took 3 years to upgrade the MacPro. He'll have an AppleTV out in a couple years. The guy has a lot of work going on, like covering up where he spends his corporation's money, etc.
 
Plex is not something the average Apple user is going to use.

The average Apple user. I don't think there is such a thing and even if there is, since when has it been a metric for creating an app?

Plex (as far as I remember) started as an OS X app and that's where they built their audience. They slowly added other platforms but the early adopters and power users were OS X users.

Possibly, Plex isn't something the 'average' Apple user would use, but I think the average Plex user may well be an Apple user.

As for the fire, it's a nice device. I run an old Mac Mini in my bedroom, primarily for Plex alongside my Apple TV. I'd consider picking up a Fire when it gets a UK release and selling my Mini.
 
Precisely!! This is why the iPod, iPhone and iPad were remarkable successes as apple was first to market for each of the MP3 player, touch screen smart phone and tablet products!

What?.. is this a late April.fools? Lol... Surely even the most loyal and blinkered ifans don't believe this to be true...
 
I think your wrong on all counts

Precisely!! This is why the iPod, iPhone and iPad were remarkable successes as apple was first to market for each of the MP3 player, touch screen smart phone and tablet products!

Loads of MP3 players before iPod
Several touch screen smart phones before iPhone
Plenty of tablets before iPad

Apple are (with exception of Mac) successful because they are not first to market, they are first to market doing the job properly.

Or were you being sarcastic?
 
Yes... Yes... Because Apple patented... better yet: INVENTED!!! the concept of a little, black, shiny plastic box. Nobody else had envisioned that before. And I think the same goes to all rectangular objets of any color, if so they choose.

:rolleyes:

Release the Lawyers!
 
All this talk of who brings what out first to market brought to mind my old EyeHome (still in my garage somewhere) which integrated pretty well with iLife and allowed wireless streaming of video content as well as music and photos. I used this for a year or two before the ATV1 was launched. A benefit of the AVT1 over EyeHome was HDMI which was then becoming the norm on TV sets in the UK.
 
The trick for Amazon is going be if they van get developers on board. Even if their hardware is much better than the Apple TV if all the games suck then it won't help them much.
 
Just bought one. I've been waiting far too long for a low cost, high performance device that would readily allow me to stream MKV's across my local network. I really wanted it to be the next apple TV but I can't wait any longer, sorry apple.

The next AppleTV won't support MKV either, so, I don't think you would have wanted to prefer waiting for it...

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I can't tell if you guys are joking but Apple wasn't the first in any of those categories.

He meant success and the ability to make even the technically unsavvy use their products. Of course, there have been, for the time, decent(!) tablets and smartphones before (I've owned almost all of them - tablet-wise, starting with the venerable HP TC1100), but they were just too complicated-to-use for casual folks.
 
AppleTV will be better!

I think Apple will blow everybody away with their next AppleTV because of the massive amount of games that will be available!
 
This looks good but I think the new Apple TV will be worth waiting for.

Seriously doubt it, Apple will fall short as they do with all there product's , people still buy them, but then they bitch and moan that it should have this and they should have done that.

JMO
 
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