AMC- The Walking Dead (TV Spoilers!)

[Huntn]

Season 6, Episode 1: First Time Again- Mega action! Outstanding flashback-present story telling, yes artistic. Survival morality opposite sides of the coin, mercy vs pragmatic. Holy crap, cliff hanger ending! Superb!! They do not Fear The Walking Dead. Get it?

The Walking Dead, season 6 episode 1, First Time Again, review: Chaos unfolds in bold series opener

 

[AlliFlowers]

I gotta say, the first 40 minutes confused me. I wasn't sure what was then and what was now. I didn't appreciate the artistic effort of filming in b&w. The action was great, though. I like meeting new characters every season and then trying to figure out who will make it for any length of time.

 

[Plutonius]

I think I'm skipping this season and I'll wait till "Fear the Walking Dead" next season. Not that "Fear the Walking Dead" is better, but I'm tired of the "Walking Dead".

I would be much more interested in the "Walking Dead" if they announced it was ending this season. The writers should end the show similar to how Blake's 7 ended (best last episode ever) .

 

[rhett7660]

I liked it and it setup some nice little conflicts for the season. I have a feeling we will be getting close to some major deaths this season.

I know I didn't, but did anybody catch the comment by Maggie? It seems she might be pregnant or at least there was a hint of it. If that is the case, I am so looking forward to what "might" be coming!

 

[CaptMarvel]

Did anyone notice Glenn nor Nicholas returned with the one guy in their trio that came back to Alexandria? Or maybe I confused the time jumps and that was before the massive walker herd genocide attempt?

 

[joepunk]

I also was confused at first by the b&w flashbacks vs. colour. And yep, we might have a hint at Maggie being pregnant. I just hope Glenn doesn't get the same fate as in the comics.

Should have watched some of the season 5 episodes. Especially the ending. Needed some reminders.

 

[CaptMarvel]

I also was confused at first by the b&w flashbacks vs. colour. And yep, we might have a hint at Maggie being pregnant. I just hope Glenn doesn't get the same fate as in the comics.

Should have watched some of the season 5 episodes. Especially the ending. Needed some reminders.

I felt the same way, then kicked myself twice as hard for not watching the Marathon on AMC or the recently added Season 5 on Netflix. Ah well, the latter is still a viable option.

 

[Mac'nCheese]

One question and my usual load of complaints about this show: A couple of characters, including Eugene, walked into that room were they were bringing injured people. Whatsherface (she's gay, had a sister who's daughter was bit by the pond) was laying in a bed and everyone including E seemed surprised to see her. They were like you're ok, oh thank goodness. What happened to her? I kind of remember that she was with Eugene and she got hurt and he was the one who saved her... Can anyone clear this up for me? TY.

BUT: I am totally addicted to this show but how dumb do the characters have to get before we get better writers. So much fail in this episode. How these guys survived this long is a mystery. Take glenn and what's his face and the walkers they had to let out of the store and kill. Do they all kill the walkers when they first find them. No, their plan is to leave and have just three people come back to do it. and let's see what should we do then. Should Glenn stand closer to the door, with the other guy a few feet behind him, unload his clip into as many walkers as he can and then run behind the other guy, who then starts to fire as Glenn reloads or the third guy hands him a full weapon, then they switch again OR should they at least be walking backwards as they shoot, so the walkers can't get to them. NO! They stand there and empty both weapons and then just stand there as the walkers grab them! Its ok because the walkers are so old they are easy to push away without getting bit UNLESS you are that guy who loved JLH in that movie, then a walker who is trapped by a tree can grab you, pull you towards it and bite you before you can get away.

There's a pit full of walkers and their plan is to lead them out of town? Derp much? How about first lighting the pit on fire or throw in some hand grenades or molotov cocktails, anything to hurt some of them? How about driving an rv or a semi down the road at 100 MPH and crush them all? How about honking your own car after that horn goes off or fire your guns or just show yourselves and run away? No, we should just walk a few feet from them cause no walker would happen to look in their directions when they hear or smell them.

And of course, Rick just knows that guy is going to die. He knows the future and sure enough, he's dead by the end of the episode (although they tried to mix it up by showing his death before they showed Rick saying that). And rick really doesn't understand that he isn't the right person to mentor the boy WHOSE FATHER HE MURDERED IN COLD BLOOD AFTER AN ACCIDENTAL DEATH!!!!

Jesus.

 

[Mac'nCheese]

I also was confused at first by the b&w flashbacks vs. colour. And yep, we might have a hint at Maggie being pregnant. I just hope Glenn doesn't get the same fate as in the comics.

Well I think that part has already passed. Not that he still can't die but didn't Glenn get killed at terminus in the comics?

 

[AlliFlowers]

I thought they had established this towards the end of last season.

I liked it and it setup some nice little conflicts for the season. I have a feeling we will be getting close to some major deaths this season.

I know I didn't, but did anybody catch the comment by Maggie? It seems she might be pregnant or at least there was a hint of it. If that is the case, I am so looking forward to what "might" be coming!

I also was confused at first by the b&w flashbacks vs. colour. And yep, we might have a hint at Maggie being pregnant. I just hope Glenn doesn't get the same fate as in the comics.

 

[rhett7660]

I thought they had established this towards the end of last season.

When? I do not remember it last season......

 

[Huntn]

I gotta say, the first 40 minutes confused me. I wasn't sure what was then and what was now. I didn't appreciate the artistic effort of filming in b&w. The action was great, though. I like meeting new characters every season and then trying to figure out who will make it for any length of time.

I also was confused at first by the b&w flashbacks vs. colour. And yep, we might have a hint at Maggie being pregnant. I just hope Glenn doesn't get the same fate as in the comics.

Should have watched some of the season 5 episodes. Especially the ending. Needed some reminders.

The only confusion I momentarily had was this gravel pit full of walkers, but the story filled in the blanks over the 90 min episode. It quickly became apparent that b&w was before and they did not have to put labels on it like 10 days ago. It was nice because the entire time you were watching b&w there was no doubt which time period you were in.

I don't want to speculate about characters as the show as all ready shown it has no reverence for the survival of TWD comic characters.

 

[C DM]

One question and my usual load of complaints about this show: A couple of characters, including Eugene, walked into that room were they were bringing injured people. Whatsherface (she's gay, had a sister who's daughter was bit by the pond) was laying in a bed and everyone including E seemed surprised to see her. They were like you're ok, oh thank goodness. What happened to her? I kind of remember that she was with Eugene and she got hurt and he was the one who saved her... Can anyone clear this up for me? TY.

BUT: I am totally addicted to this show but how dumb do the characters have to get before we get better writers. So much fail in this episode. How these guys survived this long is a mystery. Take glenn and what's his face and the walkers they had to let out of the store and kill. Do they all kill the walkers when they first find them. No, their plan is to leave and have just three people come back to do it. and let's see what should we do then. Should Glenn stand closer to the door, with the other guy a few feet behind him, unload his clip into as many walkers as he can and then run behind the other guy, who then starts to fire as Glenn reloads or the third guy hands him a full weapon, then they switch again OR should they at least be walking backwards as they shoot, so the walkers can't get to them. NO! They stand there and empty both weapons and then just stand there as the walkers grab them! Its ok because the walkers are so old they are easy to push away without getting bit UNLESS you are that guy who loved JLH in that movie, then a walker who is trapped by a tree can grab you, pull you towards it and bite you before you can get away.

There's a pit full of walkers and their plan is to lead them out of town? Derp much? How about first lighting the pit on fire or throw in some hand grenades or molotov cocktails, anything to hurt some of them? How about driving an rv or a semi down the road at 100 MPH and crush them all? How about honking your own car after that horn goes off or fire your guns or just show yourselves and run away? No, we should just walk a few feet from them cause no walker would happen to look in their directions when they hear or smell them.

And of course, Rick just knows that guy is going to die. He knows the future and sure enough, he's dead by the end of the episode (although they tried to mix it up by showing his death before they showed Rick saying that). And rick really doesn't understand that he isn't the right person to mentor the boy WHOSE FATHER HE MURDERED IN COLD BLOOD AFTER AN ACCIDENTAL DEATH!!!!

Jesus.

Well, they were going to deal with those locked in walkers together on the way back from the dry run, but their dry run turned into the real thing when one of the trucks fell down and walkers started to come out of the pit, that's why everything had to be done quickly and some things differently from the plan (like only having a few people to deal with those locked in walkers). The part about them organizing better to deal with the walkers that are coming out once they broke the window, yeah, they could have done it better--I guess in the sense of it all going down somewhat unplanned and with the rush of things happening quickly perhaps they didn't quite work through it (which can be the case even if they really should have known better).

As far as the pit goes, it's likely they have limited weapons/supplies and while they might come up with something that could help they would still have to deal with a ton of walkers one way or another, so as an overall strategy, leading them out without the need to really take them on, assuming it all works out--as it actually did until that last moment--seems like that was a fairly good alternative.

As far as that horn, it seems like it was loud enough and distracting enough that even if they could shout and shoot they would only get some walkers distracted from it, while the line of those walkers was very long and many would still go toward the horn, so there's really not much of a realistic way to get most of them turned away from it (especially when you only have a handful of people in just a few spots along the long line of a huge crowd of walkers).

 

[CaptMarvel]

One question and my usual load of complaints about this show: A couple of characters, including Eugene, walked into that room were they were bringing injured people. Whatsherface (she's gay, had a sister who's daughter was bit by the pond) was laying in a bed and everyone including E seemed surprised to see her. They were like you're ok, oh thank goodness. What happened to her? I kind of remember that she was with Eugene and she got hurt and he was the one who saved her... Can anyone clear this up for me? TY.

There was a supply run where Glenn, Tara, Eugene, Noah, Aiden and Nicholas went on. They went inside a dark building and we're looking for batteries if I remember correctly. Walkers were inside, of course they managed to get a few, but something fell on Tara and knocked her unconcious. Eugene had to grow a pair and carry her out and kill walkers in the process.

 

[Mac'nCheese]

There was a supply run where Glenn, Tara, Eugene, Noah, Aiden and Nicholas went on. They went inside a dark building and we're looking for batteries if I remember correctly. Walkers were inside, of course they managed to get a few, but something fell on Tara and knocked her unconcious. Eugene had to grow a pair and carry her out and kill walkers in the process.

I remember that. I was confused why everyone seemed surprised to see her. Like she escaped on her own. Maybe it was more like she was hurt bad and this was the first time people saw her sitting up and talking.

 

[C DM]

I remember that. I was confused why everyone seemed surprised to see her. Like she escaped on her own. Maybe it was more like she was hurt bad and this was the first time people saw her sitting up and talking.

Yeah, it was more that.

 

[CaptMarvel]

I remember that. I was confused why everyone seemed surprised to see her. Like she escaped on her own. Maybe it was more like she was hurt bad and this was the first time people saw her sitting up and talking.

I thought that's how people normally act when someone they're acquainted with wakes up from a coma?

 

[Mac'nCheese]

I thought that's how people normally act when someone they're acquainted with wakes up from a coma?

Haha. I guess so. I totally missed that.

Does anyone here watch Fargo? It is a great show. You don't need to see the first season to watch this one but you really should go back and watch season one. It's soooo good.

 

[mscriv]

I enjoyed the season opener, pretty intense. Like other posters have mentioned I question the ultimate safety of just trying to lead a herd away and hope they never come back. I remember at the prison how they would send teams to clear the fence from any and all "walkers" who were building up. It seemed to me that they could have tried some kind of mass clearing with as many people as possible to cut down the numbers, but I get that time and resources were a factor and that most of the people at Alexandria are not experienced with how to kill the undead.

I sometimes get confused about the varying nature of the "walkers". At times the show has presented that when they are not around a food source and are trapped in some way they seem to go into a dormant like state. Then there are times where they show seemingly trapped "walkers" being very active as if they are in a frenzy of sorts trying to escape their confines. I guess I'm looking for some kind of pattern or consistency that could be relied on, but that's surely foolish as the state of the zombie apocalypse is unpredictable at all times. It also sometimes bothers me how the "walkers" strength and body density seem to vary tremendously. At times zombies have no strength and their bodies are falling apart while at other times they are stronger than the living and their bodies show no sign of weak constitution. I initially thought it was a matter of decay, but they have showed walkers that are completely decayed who still seem to be strong and "knit together" tightly.

 

[CaptMarvel]

I sometimes get confused about the varying nature of the "walkers". At times the show has presented that when they are not around a food source and are trapped in some way they seem to go into a dormant like state. Then there are times where they show seemingly trapped "walkers" being very active as if they are in a frenzy of sorts trying to escape their confines. I guess I'm looking for some kind of pattern or consistency that could be relied on, but that's surely foolish as the state of the zombie apocalypse is unpredictable at all times. It also sometimes bothers me how the "walkers" strength and body density seem to vary tremendously. At times zombies have no strength and their bodies are falling apart while at other times they are stronger than the living and their bodies show no sign of weak constitution. I initially thought it was a matter of decay, but they have showed walkers that are completely decayed who still seem to be strong and "knit together" tightly.

I would think what you mentioned depends on how long a walker has been dead or turned. A freshly turned walker would have a similar build to their living state, while lets say a walker who turned 6 months ago but has been randomly wandering has started to decay. Or maybe it's just feral state upon awareness of a potential tasty meal? NOM NOM NOM

 

[Tilpots]

Decent start. Hoping the horn blowing signals the official beginning of the season. Felt like a lot of cleaning up old and creating new story arcs. Confident ep 2 will set the events of this season in motion.

I'm thinking the horn has two likely blowers; the lady in charge and the guy who goes out with Daryl. He was noticeably absent from the story. Those two also seem like the only residents with the gusto to blow it. We'll see...

 

[CaptMarvel]

S6 E2: JSS was intense!

I liked the wind up with Enid's backstory.

If Rick had made it back to Alexandria, the Wolves would have gotten it worse than they did! Great thinking on Rick's part to send Morgan back during E1, though it didn't seem as if he was needed with Carol holding down the fort.

A cold, yet calculating strike by The Wolves on Alexandria.

RIP to some of the Alexandrians. I'd guess those taken hostage may be converted to wolves or tortured for more intel then slaughtered. However I couldn't decipher the Wolves' strategy when determining to kill or capture the Alexandrians.

The internal struggles that Morgan and Carol suffer were intense and seemed to portray that now both have views of the opposite end of the spectrum than their current or previous ways. Carol finally cracked and Morgan now sees that it's kill or be killed, even though he let more Wolves escape, but without a warning from him. (Don't forget, one of the Wolves grabbed a gun before they left fleeing from Morgan...I'm sure that will be an integral part somewhere down the line. I keep seeing Daryl in trailers chained up with a gun at his temple.)

I thought it was a powerful scene when Carol and Morgan crossed paths after the bloodbath but say not a word to each other.

Where's Enid now? (Probably chasing after Ronald)

What are everyone else's thoughts?

 

[Mac'nCheese]

Pretty good episode. Not sure if I buy the whole wolves don't have any guns thing. And Morgan letting people go who were committing horrible acts of murder....even if they don't come back, they can find other people to chop up. At least lock them up.
As for the flight mini show, knitting needles on a plane in post 9/11 America? Come on. Like we are going to gasp when they are used to kill a walker. What a shock!

 

[CaptMarvel]

Pretty good episode. Not sure if I buy the whole wolves don't have any guns thing. And Morgan letting people go who were committing horrible acts of murder....even if they don't come back, they can find other people to chop up. At least lock them up.
As for the flight mini show, knitting needles on a plane in post 9/11 America? Come on. Like we are going to gasp when they are used to kill a walker. What a shock!

well you piqued my interest in the webisodes...after watching I must say, I wish the were just a little longer...like 5min!

 

[Huntn]

Outstanding episode, stark contrast between many of the Alexandria sheep and Rick's Group.

S6 E2: JSS was intense!

I liked the wind up with Enid's backstory.

If Rick had made it back to Alexandria, the Wolves would have gotten it worse than they did! Great thinking on Rick's part to send Morgan back during E1, though it didn't seem as if he was needed with Carol holding down the fort.

A cold, yet calculating strike by The Wolves on Alexandria.

RIP to some of the Alexandrians. I'd guess those taken hostage may be converted to wolves or tortured for more intel then slaughtered. However I couldn't decipher the Wolves' strategy when determining to kill or capture the Alexandrians.

The internal struggles that Morgan and Carol suffer were intense and seemed to portray that now both have views of the opposite end of the spectrum than their current or previous ways. Carol finally cracked and Morgan now sees that it's kill or be killed, even though he let more Wolves escape, but without a warning from him. (Don't forget, one of the Wolves grabbed a gun before they left fleeing from Morgan...I'm sure that will be an integral part somewhere down the line. I keep seeing Daryl in trailers chained up with a gun at his temple.)

I thought it was a powerful scene when Carol and Morgan crossed paths after the bloodbath but say not a word to each other.

Where's Enid now? (Probably chasing after Ronald)

What are everyone else's thoughts?

18Oct15 Episode
I don't view Caroll as having "cracked". This was bad-assed Carroll The Survivor. Morgan's standard of not killing was misplaced under the circumstances. The wolves represent a deadly kill or be killed threat. Of interest, the prominent Wolf told Morgan they had no choice as they high tailed it out of there.