The 470 and 480 are suitable for laptop use? What's their power dissipation?
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The 470 and 480 are suitable for laptop use? What's their power dissipation?
In what parallel universe did you slip into to think that the only viable option for a laptop GPU is bottom tier? Have you never heard of or seen other laptops in this price range? They all have much more powerful GPUs and do quite fine with both power and heat.
I posed a simple question. Are you not able to answer it?
If Gordon Moore was in his grave he'd be spinning in it. But like us he lives to see this very sad day for computing. I knew it was going to suck sonkaft week I took a 2006 Pro Mac 1,1 and put 8 core x5365s, new video, maxed the ram, second Cinema Display and loaded El Capitan on it and this 10 year old Mac is almost as fast as this pathetic machine Apple dumped on us today. Long live Low End Macs!!!
Exactly. It's all par for the course.
Apple has a vision - Apple innovates - Apple removes what they consider to be outdated tech - Apple charges a premium - a bunch people whine and complain because they're too myopic to get the vision - and a bunch more people than the whiners buy lots of Apple products, because they appreciate the vision and the progress of technological growth.
And the revenues continue to be the fuel for further technological growth.
Nothing new to see here, folks... move along...
It's honestly ridiculous. If I'm going to be charged exorbitant amounts of money for a product I expect more from it. Their laptops were already expensive. This is just a slap in the face to all their customers. And I was truly hoping Apple would put more powerful GPUs in their laptops this time since the AMD rumor started. I was genuinely excited. But not only did they put the bottom tier comparable 460 in their laptops, they have a custom even-lower-than-bottom-tier GPU in the 450 offering, which aren't even available as desktop counterparts. They're exclusively underpowered just for the MBP line. Unbelievable. And you can't even get the 450 until you spend 2400 on the base 15". It's actually become hysterical.
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I did. You don't like the answer.
DDR3 when DDR4 is the standard is the glaring and obvious mis-step. The other specs are just lack-luster
I am pretty sure you are right. This round of Mac Book Pros has really cemented the concept in my brain. I thought I was being critical because the Mac Pro had drifted so far away from my use case. But it's not just me, it's happening to everybody who has dealt with Apple as a vendor. Final Cut and Logic are their only real two concerns as far as heavy load goes; and we've been watching them become more simple with each iteration. Now both pro lines have been neutered and turned into nothing more than marketing facades. The end isn't near....the end is now.
We're getting back to the world where the PC market has much better GPU options & CPU options (high end Skylake CPU's were available in laptops way before Xmas last year) for much better prices.
After the transition to x86 Apple had the best CPU's often before PC vendors, now we're falling back to wanting Apple stuff in spite of the hardware options. And the GPU's have to be low end because we're putting them in these cookie sheet computers. This is the way it was in the 6800 & PowerPC days (buy the Mac in spite of the hardware value proposition) and isn't a good thing.
To those wishing Tim Cook good riddance, be careful what you wish for, he's the only major hardware CEO in the the world (let that sink in) who cares about customers privacy...his replacement could be so much worse in so many ways.
After the transition to x86 Apple had the best CPU's often before PC vendors, now we're falling back to wanting Apple stuff in spite of the hardware options. And the GPU's have to be low end because we're putting them in these cookie sheet computers. This is the way it was in the 6800 & PowerPC days (buy the Mac in spite of the hardware value proposition) and isn't a good thing.
To those wishing Tim Cook good riddance, be careful what you wish for, he's the only major hardware CEO in the the world (let that sink in) who cares about customers privacy...his replacement could be so much worse in so many ways.
No, you didn't. I asked what is the power dissipation for the 470 and 480. Simple question.
I don't see how those will work given the limited space you have to work with in this MacBook Pro. Those other laptops are significantly larger, heavier and use power bricks. You gotta give and take some here. Were you hoping for a gaming laptop?
LOL
Yes, requires eGPU, which aren't cheap.
But no support out the box
I have a 2010 Mac Pro, I cascaded my GTX 970 into it (after I upgraded my "gaming" PC) and Steam VR thinks the machine is just fine for VR
(Havent tried any actual Vive stuff in it, but it runs DK2 stuff fine).
Sorry, just a bit annoyed by some of the responses. Yours got lost in the fray. They're 120 and 150, respectively, but those are for the full desktop GPUs. Scaled mobile versions would be less.
A bit annoyed you claimed the screen was on the surface studio was innovative and, when asked to name a single way, you couldn't name one. Not even one.
I know the mobile versions would be less. The question still stands. How many watts?
ISo we've gone from
To "DDR3"
No, we've gone to them staying behind a whole generation in ram and using middling to inferior graphics at a price only a jackass would pay. How long do you want to play semantics? Without fail this guys always takes up space in a thread with their overbearing desire to talk about word usage. Now we need one reference to Cook being Hitler and this thread is complete. But please do go on, nobody has heard this angle before....I'm sure you've got something new to add.So we've gone from
To "DDR3"
How many watts do the mobile versions of the 470 and 480 GPUs dissipate. Are you saying it's 120 and 150 watts?
Yes, but when Nvidia's mid range Pascal is so much more powerful and slightly more efficient you have to think as to why AMD, regardless of relative Open CL performance.
Hate to keep piling on, but integrated graphics on a system that now starts at $1799 is just depressing.
Oh. I'm not sure what the mobile versions are. I'm not even sure there are mobile versions yet except for what's in the MBP. I think NVIDIA was the first to the laptop race for this new gen so far.
