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Some of us feel like we know exactly what the iPhone "5" will be like:

iPhone 4S (N94)
- iPhone 4 case design (3.5" Screen), but improved internals
- CDMA and GSM in one phone, "World Phone"
- HSPA+ (at least 14.4mbps)
- 1GB RAM
- A5 Processor
- SGX 543MP2 GPU (Same as iPad 2)
- Assistant Voice Recognition

I expect some down clocking as the CPU in the iPhone 4 is not the same as the original iPad (most say it runs at around 800Mhz compared to 1Ghz on the iPad).

And I have a theory as to why the iPhone always has more RAM than the iPad: since it's a device that always has 3G but MUST last all day, any chance to reduce data requests over a 3G network saves battery. The iPad also has a more sensitive price point since it's not subsidized, so "extra" RAM is one of things that can be reduced to save some money.
 
Are you sure about that?

https://www.macrumors.com/2011/04/2...el-gaming-developers-with-a5-based-iphone-4s/

Yes, that is an article from April when the big time developers started their development for an A5 chip.

Yes, I'm very confident that few developers (if any) will make an A5 chip a requirement for their software/apps to run. They would be closing out too many potential buyers running legacy tech.

Once the iP4 users start coming eligible for upgrades next summer and start transitioning to A5 devices, you'll start seeing more A5-only apps. Until then, apps will continue to be written where the most money is.
 
I'm a 3GS owner -- I've been eligible to upgrade for over a year. I passed on the iP4 because of shoddy materials (fragile glass is not durable enough for a tech item I handle over 100 times per day) and signal issues.

Your 3gs has the same signal issues, just no "touch here" line. I know because I have one and have tested it.

Also, get a case. The phone looks awesome
 
Man, I wish we had some way to see if that was how it worked out in a similar scenario... Oh right. When the iPad 2 came out, apps took advantage of this right away.

Yup.

And I'd be shocked if any of the apps written in the near future (read: 8-12 months) will take advantage of this so as to not to alienate the legacy hardware in the iP4.

Big speed increase that you won't see any real benefit from for some time.

Oh, and good luck enjoying your fast graphics with a shattered glass back or glass screen because the iPhone 4S continued to use fragile build materials and refused to put a protective bezel around the phone to protect the edges from direct shattering impacts.

Yeah, I purchased mine on day one and I didn't have a case or protector or anything... That's because I don't drop things that can break.
 
Yup.
Oh, and good luck enjoying your fast graphics with a shattered glass back or glass screen because the iPhone 4S continued to use fragile build materials and refused to put a protective bezel around the phone to protect the edges from direct shattering impacts.

this argument is starting to annoy me. Replacement parts can be bought very cheaply on ebay and installed at home. If you have any sort of saavy, you can find someone like the guy in my area that will come to your house and replace the screen for 30 dollars.

The signal issue is also non-existent as my iphone 4 and 3gs drop calls only in the same blackout areas near my house.
 
Some of us feel like we know exactly what the iPhone "5" will be like:

iPhone 4S (N94)
- iPhone 4 case design (3.5" Screen), but improved internals
- CDMA and GSM in one phone, "World Phone"
- HSPA+ (at least 14.4mbps)
- 1GB RAM
- A5 Processor
- SGX 543MP2 GPU (Same as iPad 2)
- Assistant Voice Recognition

I am not sure we have any indication that A5 for iPhone 5/4S will have SGX 543MP2 GPU. I am actually inclined to think that the main reason for the late release of this phone might be related to the delays in the design of a version of A5 for the phone. I have absolutely no sources for that but all other upgrades seem to be too trivial to cause such a long delay (and I do not buy a theory that the phone was delayed because of iOS 5).
 
Yup.

And I'd be shocked if any of the apps written in the near future (read: 8-12 months) will take advantage of this so as to not to alienate the legacy hardware in the iP4.

Big speed increase that you won't see any real benefit from for some time.

Oh, and good luck enjoying your fast graphics with a shattered glass back or glass screen because the iPhone 4S continued to use fragile build materials and refused to put a protective bezel around the phone to protect the edges from direct shattering impacts.

Fascinating how the iPhone 4 is still the #1 one selling phone with the highest customer satisfaction rating. Clearly between the Antenna never working and the glass always being broken , all of those people are delusional with really, really tough skin.
 
My brother in law just got that phone a couple of weeks ago after he decided to take a swim in the ocean with his 3GS. He likes the bigger screen but now he's thinking of returning it and getting an iPhone 4. He should have listened to me about waiting and borrow my old flip phone.

if he cant return it tell him ill buy it from him............ i have an iphone 4 but im going overseas... and dont want to be seen so frequently with it.... plus i do like huge screens... LOL...

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Sucks to be you. Maybe we can set up a paypal account and get donations for an iPhone.


i have one... LOL want a picture?

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Good luck with that!!

Bloatware that runs all the time, kills your battery and you can't delete it. The only way to get rid of it is to Root the Phone, then you void the warranty.

But, don't tell us we didn't warn you.

But, when buy that, it means more IPhones for us that actually want a Performing Phone, not an accessory.

for the third time... LOL.... guess no one looks at signatures these days...
 
this argument is starting to annoy me. Replacement parts can be bought very cheaply on ebay and installed at home. If you have any sort of saavy, you can find someone like the guy in my area that will come to your house and replace the screen for 30 dollars.

It's not half as annoying as trying to fathom why Apple continues to build phones out of glass (or, if they're going to insist on using glass, why they don't at least use a bezel to protect the edges -- the most vulnerable part of tempered glass -- from direct impacts that cause shattering).

It's $30 to replace glass (which, while cheap-ish, is still money out of your pocket), but the issue is that there's no good reason to use glass in the first place.
 
totally off topic, but for Tim Cooks first "by the way"...he should first say it is powerbook G5s, complete with a slide, before he gets to the real thing. I think everyone would think that was funny.
 
Performance with the iPhone 4 has never been a problem. Screen size has.

THANK YOU.................................. i could care less about the specs of the iphone 4.... its all i need except the screen.... thats whats making me want a infuse 4g on the side.....
 
Yeah, I purchased mine on day one and I didn't have a case or protector or anything... That's because I don't drop things that can break.

I call shenanigans on ANY person who has owned a mobile phone for more than a year and claims that he / she has never once dropped it (or had it fall of a table, chair, or out of a pocket etc.).
 
70 million iPhone 4 users have no complaints.

Not true at all. I complain about my iPhone 4 all the time. Screen size isn't big enough. Battery doesn't last long enough. Home button never $*#%ing works.

I've heard these complaints from many others, though overall I like my phone a lot, and that's the general sentiment I get too.
 
I call shenanigans on ANY person who has owned a mobile phone for more than a year and claims that he / she has never once dropped it (or had it fall of a table, chair, or out of a pocket etc.).

yeah i dropped mine... i almost died for a second.... then i realized i had otterbox on... LOL... didnt even scratch the case... HA. 20 dollars still goes a long way!
 
Disappointing to see the galaxy s II is still half the benchmark of the ipad2.
 
It's not half as annoying as trying to fathom why Apple continues to build phones out of glass (or, if they're going to insist on using glass, why they don't at least use a bezel to protect the edges -- the most vulnerable part of tempered glass -- from direct impacts that cause shattering).

It's $30 to replace glass (which, while cheap-ish, is still money out of your pocket), but the issue is that there's no good reason to use glass in the first place.

I'd say there is a good reason to use glass: its harder to scratch than plastic, doesn't get all weird feeling, is easy to clean, always clear and feels much nicer. Its not very hard to NOT drop your phone. Accidents happen, but still...I just don't talk on my phone while holding two hands worth of groceries anymore. I will say that I liked the first iphone design the best, though. I agree about the bezel but still...my iphone has broken twice since I got it at launch: once when I dropped it on concrete while my hands were full, and another when it rode in my bike bag for a 100mile ride with my keys and bike tools. Both times I was not surprised. Both were things my iphone had done may times before without breaking. I have never had a case, by the way.
 
I have the Infuse 4g... It's nice. But having a dual-core iphone would kill the infuse. Especially with the CPU and the GPU that iOS devices have now. I only got Android because I stopped playing games on my iPhone. I got an iPod touch instead. I can't kick iOS out of my life at all. haha.

yeah im sure of it.... plus its comparing new with old technology... i just want the infuse as a secondary... i would rather pay 650 total for two phones then buy the new iphone unlocked for 650..atleast would have some leway..
 
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arn said:
Wow, we're only one day away from the official announcement, and still NO ONE really knows what the iPhone 5 is going to be like.

Sometimes Apple managed to leak every little detail about their new products, and then sometimes like this time they don't give us a single crumb of information.

Some of us feel like we know exactly what the iPhone "5" will be like:

iPhone 4S (N94)
- iPhone 4 case design (3.5" Screen), but improved internals
- CDMA and GSM in one phone, "World Phone"
- HSPA+ (at least 14.4mbps)
- 1GB RAM
- A5 Processor
- SGX 543MP2 GPU (Same as iPad 2)
- Assistant Voice Recognition

I feel like arnsman today. That is my expectation as well and it will likely be the 1st or 2nd top selling smartphone in 2012.
 
Yup.

And I'd be shocked if any of the apps written in the near future (read: 8-12 months) will take advantage of this so as to not to alienate the legacy hardware in the iP4.

Big speed increase that you won't see any real benefit from for some time.

Oh, and good luck enjoying your fast graphics with a shattered glass back or glass screen because the iPhone 4S continued to use fragile build materials and refused to put a protective bezel around the phone to protect the edges from direct shattering impacts.

There are a few apps that are iPad 2 only. More to come toward Christmas. Who knows how many will launch with the new iPhone!!
 
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