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An A5 Powered iPhone Will Have Much Faster Graphics Performance
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That's because of the retina screen mate, a lot more pixels more densely packed in a smaller display. But the iPad 3 should improve on it if it gets a retina screen and even more so with the rumoured A6 processor.
This is pointless news about the A5 as everybody expected it. The iPhone A5 will be underclocked and have more RAM then the iPad 2 A5, the exact same as they did with the iPad A4 and iPhone 4 A4.
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Take a look at the PSVITA graphics to get an idea, it's GPU and CPU are quad core high speed versions of mobile phone chips. But computers are always going to advance too so in theory never.
Actually, the A4 is the same size (same sized process used) in both the original iPad and iPhone 4.
Apple/Samsung could have moved the A5 to a smaller process - they actually would have to to get the SoC to even fit in the iPhone. This would result in cooler and more efficient chips. So in theory, they could still run just as fast as the iPad 2 and I suspect it's one reason why we've had to wait so long for this next iPhone update.
This is also one possible reason why Apple is moving A6 production to TSMC, they are already at a 28nm process.
Maybe you missed the part that said you own AND use it?
Simply using your friends phone for 5 minutes does not mean you can tell how 'fragile' it supposedly is nor how well it keeps a call.
Have you seen Shadowgun or Infinity Blade or any of the other UDK or Unity engine games? Check them out, very good graphics, see if you think they match PS2 levels?
What are you talking about?
Right now most of the people in blogosphere knows about tomorrow's iPhone(read iPhone 4S). Apple is good at keeping secrets but they can't control leaks.
It all depends on the architecture and design of the chip in question.
Work completed per clock cycle is more important than the Megahertz rating.
Judging computer performance by GHz alone is a common misconception.
There are a lot of other factors that affect performance in computers.
Processor speed is only one of them. Memory speed and architecture, internal bus speeds, storage technology, and software (OS and application) all contribute heavily to the perceived speed of a computer.
The clock speed of a CPU (the GHz) has nothing to do with relative performance of the processor... except when comparing it to other processors in the same product line.
A processor that can execute more instructions per clock cycle can run "slower" and provide the same or better performance as a processor that executes fewer instructions per clock cycle running "faster".
The idea here is that it doesn't matter how fast the processor is, if the processor is sitting around twiddling it's thumbs while it waits for data from the hard drive/network/memory etc.
In simple terms, a system with processors and motherboard that implement a better architecture, such as:
4x to 6x larger level 1 caches
Faster cpu to memory controller bus or a processor integrated FSB,
Wider FSB and memory bus - 128 bits
An Exclusive NON-shared FSB on each Processor
An Exclusive NON-shared memory bank on each processor
Can easily execute many more instructions per clock cycle.
How much can the processor do per Ghz or Mhz? That is what you should be asking yourself. You mean to tell me you don't know that a Sandybridge processor is faster than a Core 2 duo even it they are running at the same Ghz?
And yes the A5 is faster than the Samsung Exynos processor. And even the new Qualcomm processor running at 1.5Ghz.
No no the iPhone 5 WILL have the A6 chip as the iPhone 5 won't be launched until next year
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Faster in an iPad 2, we will have to see with test results how much faster the iPhone model will be as no doubt it WILL be underclocked, saves burning our hands and killing the battery in a couple of hours haha. If the iPhone launched tomorrow has the same design as the iPone 4 then the battery can only support so much processing power.
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Hahaha, I didn't realize not not being able to hold onto a phone was such an epidemic I guess I'd recommend: some kind of bumper/case, staying away from the Vaseline and maybe avoid using it while intoxicated.
The thing about this benchmark that kind of makes me chuckle, is Apple always avoids the "speeds and feeds" spin on products - yet, they're still very competitive on just that metric (combined with the overall effective performance, even more so I'd say).
Also, about A4 vs. A5 and optimization. A faster CPU/GPU has inherent performance increases, especially around the core apps. The optimization being mentioned is generally adding additional features, improved graphics, etc., that would have reduced the app on an A4 to a sub-optimal experience.
Bottom line: the A5 powered iPhone will be faster OOTB, and in the near future have apps optimized for the A5 that will improve the user experience.
I guess I'd recommend: some kind of bumper/case, staying away from the Vaseline and maybe avoid using it while intoxicated.The thing about this benchmark that kind of makes me chuckle, is Apple always avoids the "speeds and feeds" spin on products - yet, they're still very competitive on just that metric (combined with the overall effective performance, even more so I'd say).
Also, about A4 vs. A5 and optimization. A faster CPU/GPU has inherent performance increases, especially around the core apps. The optimization being mentioned is generally adding additional features, improved graphics, etc., that would have reduced the app on an A4 to a sub-optimal experience.
Bottom line: the A5 powered iPhone will be faster OOTB, and in the near future have apps optimized for the A5 that will improve the user experience.
I would expect a die shrink at the very least.
The flip side are the long standing rumors that PA Semi was split into two teams one designing processors for phones and one team for tablet or higher power devices. Considering Apples volumes it would make a lot of sense to optimize for the platform.
If Apple delivers a processor built on a 22 to 28 nm process, that chip would be much smaller even if additional capability was added.
Exactly! However it is completely possible to shrink the die for the iPhone to lower power.
The flip side are the long standing rumors that PA Semi was split into two teams one designing processors for phones and one team for tablet or higher power devices. Considering Apples volumes it would make a lot of sense to optimize for the platform.
If Apple delivers a processor built on a 22 to 28 nm process, that chip would be much smaller even if additional capability was added.
Pot>kettle and all that. I am a day one 3GS owner who has never used or held an iPhone 4. I've seen plenty of them around but never felt the need to ask someone if I could hold their phone. I am on a two year upgrade cycle and perfectly content to enjoy what I own without coveting the next iteration. Never tried a 3G model either.
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?????? what are you implying here?
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dude for the 4th time......I have an iphone 4... im not selling it any time soon... it was a joke... but i would like tO have a secondary phone... because i travel.... and the infuse 4g is cheaper than the galaxy 2 and has the siize screen i want...
i wish you had read all of my comments in this thread,..... i wont get the iphone 5 now no matter what it has... 600 is just to much for me....since i am going to be traveling soon i cant go under a two year contract.....???? make sense... LOL.
Here's a thought I just saw on a You Tube video. What if we get an iPhone 4S tomorrow, a cheaper iPhone 4, BUT the 4S is alos lowered in price with the 8meg camera, A5 processor and then Apple ANNOUNCE an iPhone 5 for launch next year? And the iPhone 5 is a totally new design with the A6 processor?
Apple will keep people happy then and increase sales and make the competition sweat all in one go.
Apple will keep people happy then and increase sales and make the competition sweat all in one go.
why does the iphone have to have a redesign to be the iphone 5 anyway???? was the iphone 3g a resign of the iphone 2g????
Because everyone is assuming the iPhone 5 will be the tear drop design with a 4" or bigger screen. It will be a totally new design, and yes the iPhone 3 was a redesign from the iPhone. iPhone 4 a redesign from the iPhone 3GS
Yep. Weather its in the iPhone 4 case or a redesign. I don't really care at this point. I had this 3gs for 2 years now and i want/need to treat myself.
If it's not going to do Adobe Flash or real gaming, what's the point of even faster graphics?
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"OMGz!!!!111 Teh Angry Birds r s000 much fastArz n0w."
You're correct in believing that. I would definitely get a new form factor than the one I have already used. I need to experience something different; I need a better feel my hand. iPhone4 doesn't do it at all.
Sorry if that hurts someone but 3G/3GS was very comfortable to hold.
But I already know that A5 is a beast and the next iPhone will have >768MB of RAM; so I am really not bothered about that.
Puff!
