Let's nip this one in the bud. Both of the Nexus S and Galaxy S II have larger screens and they are still "phones" barely larger than the iPhone 4.
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Let's nip this one in the bud. Both of the Nexus S and Galaxy S II have larger screens and they are still "phones" barely larger than the iPhone 4.
Mr. Negative,
This will be an awesome device. My brother and many of my friends have IP4s and they take drops very well, which is amazing with all of that glass. I personally have a Droid X which I have dropped many times, even once onto a large rock directly onto the screen. All of these modern devices are amazing in almost every way. I get frustrated with my X but I do not hate it. Why do you hate the iPhone so much?
This will be an awesome device. My brother and many of my friends have IP4s and they take drops very well, which is amazing with all of that glass. I personally have a Droid X which I have dropped many times, even once onto a large rock directly onto the screen. All of these modern devices are amazing in almost every way. I get frustrated with my X but I do not hate it. Why do you hate the iPhone so much?
As I wrote in the other iPhone articles the worlds media in all genres are going to have a field day around Tim Cook if all they launch is, even if most of us know differently, new insides into a floored item in the eyes of the mainstream media!
Remember that dedicated consoles and handhelds perform a generation beyond comparably specced PCs and phones because they have lower level APIs. - John Carmack.
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I wouldn't go as far as dropping it on purpose but I can testify that I dropped my iPhone 3GS not long back from the fourth floor in the stair well. It took a couple of knocks from stairs on the way down based on the noise. I fumbled it when I got it out of my pocket. I was devastated. But when I seen it I couldn't believe it! Not a scratch!!!
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I wouldn't go as far as dropping it on purpose but I can testify that I dropped my iPhone 3GS not long back from the fourth floor in the stair well. It took a couple of knocks from stairs on the way down based on the noise. I fumbled it when I got it out of my pocket. I was devastated. But when I seen it I couldn't believe it! Not a scratch!!!
I really like the iPhone 4 design, so I don't mind if there's no change to the case.
That said, I have an iPhone 4 with 2.5 months contract left on it and when I'm contract free, I'll get a cheaper tariff for however long before the next iPhone after this comes out, mainly because I can't imagine tomorrow's unveil is going to be as big a product evolution as the 3GS -> iPhone 4 was.
Also, the iPhone 4 is an amazing phone still....Mine is 15 months old and looks brand new, the battery is still in great shape and it does so much. I actually get a kick out of using Apple products for a long time....They're designed to last. Makes it all the more sweet when you do actually upgrade as well....My last phone before this was the original iPhone.
That said, I have an iPhone 4 with 2.5 months contract left on it and when I'm contract free, I'll get a cheaper tariff for however long before the next iPhone after this comes out, mainly because I can't imagine tomorrow's unveil is going to be as big a product evolution as the 3GS -> iPhone 4 was.
Also, the iPhone 4 is an amazing phone still....Mine is 15 months old and looks brand new, the battery is still in great shape and it does so much. I actually get a kick out of using Apple products for a long time....They're designed to last. Makes it all the more sweet when you do actually upgrade as well....My last phone before this was the original iPhone.
Dont believe that
If you not dare, explain how can a dual core 1.2 Ghz be slower than a 1Ghz Dual core, its just not logic tome, i don't believe in that benchmark!
If you not dare, explain how can a dual core 1.2 Ghz be slower than a 1Ghz Dual core, its just not logic tome, i don't believe in that benchmark!
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What is the chances of the iPhone 4 processor being turned up to its potential 1ghz?
This said, ios5 beta 7 on ip4 here and it's very fast, I don't see how it could run faster, not on day to day tasks anyway! I suppose the benchmark numbers might show its quicker but will we actually notice it when for example, sending a text message or checking Facebook?
What is the chances of the iPhone 4 processor being turned up to its potential 1ghz?
This said, ios5 beta 7 on ip4 here and it's very fast, I don't see how it could run faster, not on day to day tasks anyway! I suppose the benchmark numbers might show its quicker but will we actually notice it when for example, sending a text message or checking Facebook?
Even if you believe that light travels with 30.000 km/s, it still travels with 300.000 km/s. So it does not matter what you "think".
And the GHz are not very important in todays processors, because each newer generation has more load/store units, which load data from the RAM in the processor cache, and which store data from the processor cache to the RAM. This is what makes modern processors much faster. Sandy Bridge is such an example. x264 developers needed more parallel memory access, and they got it. The result is that x264 is dramatically faster on Sandy Bridge CPUs. The same applies to non-Intel ARM-CPUs. The lower nanometer structures allow more memory load/store units, without increasing the temperature of the semiconductor material.
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Oh no, poor you. Did you lose your job or your sanity?
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Oh no, poor you. Did you lose your job or your sanity?
I'm really hoping not but... it's quite possible the iPhone 4S will only have one SGX543. The iPad 2 has a significantly larger battery compared to the iPad 1, and it only outperforms the iPad 1 by an hour or so.
The A5 shouldn't be a problem CPU-wise, but having an SGX543MP2 might kill the battery too quickly.
How much power does a single SGX543 use compared to the SGX535? I know it has about twice the performance.
The A5 shouldn't be a problem CPU-wise, but having an SGX543MP2 might kill the battery too quickly.
How much power does a single SGX543 use compared to the SGX535? I know it has about twice the performance.
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/laptops/ipa...ry-512mb-of-ram-and-ninja-grade-gpu-50003127/
Bigger battery? Yes. But not much bigger. From the article linked: " the iPad 2's battery is a 3.8V 25W-hour unit -- "just a hair more than the original iPad's 24.8W-hours".
First of all i don't know what this has todo with lightspeed now, but its ok. Thz for the reasonable explaination and a good one too.
It's possible that one of the reasons for the delay with the next iPhone was due to Apple doing a die shrink for just the reasons you mention. I speculated about this a few weeks ago here: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1228143/
It's also true that the clock speed might need to be lowered more than some people are expecting and/or the GPU down-speced a bit. With the current market expectations set by the competition though, I find it hard to imagine that the CPU won't be a dual core Cortex-A9 based design, i.e. an A5 as far as the CPU is concerned.
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Ah, I see. The iFixit tear-down shows the iPad 2's battery taking up more space, but it must be thinner. Thanks for that!
Looks like Arn is trying to get out ahead of the inevitable disappointment come Tuesday when the Jesusphone doesn't have every far-fetched expectation that the drones here have heaped on it. Personally I think an A5 upgrade with a better camera is perfectly acceptable, but maybe that's not enough "pizazz" for everyone.
I highly doubt that the A5 they shoehorn into the iPhone is going to run at the same clocks as the iPad. Same as it was with the A4. So the performance tests of the iPad2 are most likely not the level of performance you'll see from an A5 in an iPhone. It'll probably have the same 20% or so underclock that was in the iPhone4 in comparison to the iPad.
Performance will still be good, but all posting a bunch of graphs from the iPad2 is going to do is convince all the drones that it's the same performance as the iPad2, which is exactly what happened the last time around with the iPhone4/iPad.
I highly doubt that the A5 they shoehorn into the iPhone is going to run at the same clocks as the iPad. Same as it was with the A4. So the performance tests of the iPad2 are most likely not the level of performance you'll see from an A5 in an iPhone. It'll probably have the same 20% or so underclock that was in the iPhone4 in comparison to the iPad.
Performance will still be good, but all posting a bunch of graphs from the iPad2 is going to do is convince all the drones that it's the same performance as the iPad2, which is exactly what happened the last time around with the iPhone4/iPad.
Honestly, anyone who would abandon an entire platform just because of phone hardware is really just in the market for a phone. So, good luck to you.
Personally, I don't really care for mobile phones, but since we pretty much have to have one these days, it doesn't matter what the hardware looks like as far as I'm concerned... What matters is that it won't become obsolete before the contract expires and that it works well with my iMac and iPad.
Furthermore, why would you make a stupid statement like that without waiting until the product is actually released... Do you really want people to know you're an idiot before you even get the chance to actually prove how stupid you are?
I dropped mine twice and it broke both times. Both at waist level. A case is a must because the little thing is slippery.