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An A5 Powered iPhone Will Have Much Faster Graphics Performance
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What if it had a 4.5" screen with a 333mhz CPU. That would be funny.
GregAndonian said:New processor outperforms old one- Film at 11!
What if it had a 4.5" screen with a 333mhz CPU. That would be funny.
While it's fun to see some people write about Android should've, could've, would've phones and tablets (most of whom finally show up in markets ages after Apple has been pushing tons worth of devices ^^ like Tegra and Kalel devices) I remember seeing those benchmark and the explication given for the poor iPhone 4 performances was the fact that the GPU didn't handle the entire OpenGL ES 2.0, which is what has being improved with the current generation of mobile GPU.
Still I would love to see "real life" benchmark testing workload balance on multiple cores, that would be a better indicator of where each platform is at in the proper use of their processing power.
Apple should be far ahead since they have been pushing GCD to devs for a few years while developing multi thread softs in java (android) is still a mess.
Even better is the fact that this generation GPU implement OpenCL, that Apple uses to improve hardware usage even in their frameworks (so users get a few benefits without having to have the devs work on their soft).
This is important since we can all see that it took years for desktop computers softwares start to properly use their multi-core CPUs to the point that Intel developed a way to shut down unused cores so they could push higher frequencies so people would still feel CPU upgrades.
On mobile platform it's even more important, seeing how even unused cores consume energy, generate heat etc.
Still I would love to see "real life" benchmark testing workload balance on multiple cores, that would be a better indicator of where each platform is at in the proper use of their processing power.
Apple should be far ahead since they have been pushing GCD to devs for a few years while developing multi thread softs in java (android) is still a mess.
Even better is the fact that this generation GPU implement OpenCL, that Apple uses to improve hardware usage even in their frameworks (so users get a few benefits without having to have the devs work on their soft).
This is important since we can all see that it took years for desktop computers softwares start to properly use their multi-core CPUs to the point that Intel developed a way to shut down unused cores so they could push higher frequencies so people would still feel CPU upgrades.
On mobile platform it's even more important, seeing how even unused cores consume energy, generate heat etc.
I know anything that's anti iPhone is rated down straight away but ahh... For men with large hands (like me) I find the screen that's on current iPhones too small to handle... Tried many times for extended periods but still make mistakes often - perfect size would be 4".... That's the main selling factor for me - if it's anything less than 3.9" then I prob won't buy it.....
I'll wait and see what the Nexus Prime's like
I'll wait and see what the Nexus Prime's like
From what I've read, the Qualcomm powered SGSII has the weaker Adreno 200 GPU:
http://www.extremetech.com/mobile/9...hange-up-affects-the-t-mobile-galaxy-s2?print
Raw CPU power may be a different story but the recently announced 1.5GHz Exynos 4212 may level things out a bit in that respect.
It's likely that even more people would want a smaller lighter and more pocketable mobile phone with the same screen size as the current i4. The current big screen cell phones don't even sell as well as the 3GS!
Will Apple build a device for you, or for the larger market?
More power is always a good thing, IF battery life is not compromised.
One of my anti-iPhone friends kept saying iPhones have poor battery life, and the fact that you can't swap in a spare battery on the go but to use a bulky external charger is a big no for him.
Reading the Galaxy S2 review/benchmark in the link though, I don't think other smartphones are any better than iPhone battery-wise. and I hope the next gen iPhone will be much better battery-wise to shut my friend's mouth. (he's getting a Galaxy S2 on 5th Oct)
One of my anti-iPhone friends kept saying iPhones have poor battery life, and the fact that you can't swap in a spare battery on the go but to use a bulky external charger is a big no for him.
Reading the Galaxy S2 review/benchmark in the link though, I don't think other smartphones are any better than iPhone battery-wise. and I hope the next gen iPhone will be much better battery-wise to shut my friend's mouth.
(he's getting a Galaxy S2 on 5th Oct)Who's to say the larger market would be against a larger screen? Everyone I have talked to about the next gen iPhone has loved the idea of a bigger screen.
compared to a PC graphics card?
Anyone know how these A5 numbers compare with the graphics chips they put in laptops, or even with gamer graphics cards of a few years back (before the heat sinks became larger than the CPUs)?
Anyone know how these A5 numbers compare with the graphics chips they put in laptops, or even with gamer graphics cards of a few years back (before the heat sinks became larger than the CPUs)?
Problem being that the larger market seems to be shifting towards wanting a larger screen. I have a GS2, and the screen real-estate is just wonderful, couldn't care less about the lower pixel density, I can't even tell with my eyes (I'm not aging, just have really bad eyes).
There'll be other reasons the big screen phones don't sell as well, primarily they don't have the street cred factor of iOS. That said, GS2 seems to have changed things, at least in my circle of people I know, many people have moved and are loving it... Apple really do need a wow factor phone to make up for androids gains, maybe they can do that with a nice performance boost. We'll see.
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More power is always a good thing, IF battery life is not compromised.
One of my anti-iPhone friends kept saying iPhones have poor battery life, and the fact that you can't swap in a spare battery on the go but to use a bulky external charger is a big no for him.
Reading the Galaxy S2 review/benchmark in the link though, I don't think other smartphones are any better than iPhone battery-wise. and I hope the next gen iPhone will be much better battery-wise to shut my friend's mouth.
This is quite true. I have a GS2, great phone, problem being a little service called "Wi-fi sharing" If there's a major problem with this phone it's that. It sucks up so much power and does nothing. That said, it doesn't turn itself on too often, and there are ways to get rid of it, but you need to root the phone and I don't want to do that.
That said, I make quite a few calls a day, go between wi-fi and a HSPA+ network, text, email, game, listen to music and I get decent battery life even with Wi-fi sharing. Today, for example, I've had the phone going with my normal usage patterns and I'm at 65% after 10 hours.
EDIT: Also, screen is another huge drain, and such would be the case with a large iPhone screen, advantage to an AMOLED screen there, though. Battery's also aren't a very efficient technology, and progress is unfortunately slow
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as long as the phone works, no one cares about or understands this overly complicated technical voodoo.
instead, why doesn't macrumors focus on what's truly a paramount concern among past, current and potential iphone owners and post more articles that deal with what shape the ip5 takes.
i NEED to know that it will be shaped like a teardrop and is curvy otherwise it'll be pointless to buy. i don't need another ip4
New processor outperforms old one- Film at 11!
I believe the A5 chip is about as new as the Exynos. The OMAP4 isn't that old either I don't think. I wonder how the Adreno 220 of newer Snapdragons fare here.
Regardless, I'm not really sure if there's much benefit of having a faster 3D graphics chip outside the benchmarks or some homebrew ports, especially for Android phones. My Android phone supposedly had the best 3D chip of its generation and it was utterly wasted. Even for iPhone it'll be a while before we get fully optimized games for the new chip.
Same. I know I'm careless, but anytime someone talks to me about the glass being fragile, I get my iPhone 4 out and drop it by "accident." I'm sure it'll bite me in the ass one day, but these phones are not fragile.
For me, this alone is reason enough to upgrade! If you have family and the best camera is the camera you have with you, this is HUGE!
True. As long as battery life is improved. Can't be getting more power at the expense of battery life. In real world terms, the A4 processor runs plenty fast already BUT battery life is not negotiable. I didn't get the 3G or 3GS because of battery life issues. I work, therefore I need something that stays with me for most of the day
And this is the most important point of all, if iOS 5 is done right, everyone will feel like they have a new phone and the Galaxy SII's will look even less appealing with their inadequate platform and bloatware issues.
And worldphone achievement is not to be sniffed at.
Assuming the 4S improves on the aerial (because the iPhone 4 still does not hold a candle to the Blackberry's 3G connectivity and ability to push through hundreds of emails seemingly at real-time), I couldn't care less about the form type, larger screen size is the only thing I will be disappointed for not getting.
I've dropped mine numerous (more than 5) times from 3 feet or so, onto QUARRY TILES and barely a scratch. There is one little ding (less than than 1x0.5x0.5mm chip (you really have to look to see it) and that's it.
Yeah I've dropped my IP4 a stupid amount of times on hard surfaces - tiled bathroom floors, concrete paths, stone paths, bunch of other places. And NEVER has shattered. It's tough.
You mean like that black plastic bezel that currently exists around the edge of the iPhone? I take it you either don't have one or have not looked too closely at it for some time?
EDIT: Really though, it depends on how exactly you drop it. I dropped it once on JUST the wrong spot so that the black plastic bezel chipped a little, allowing the glass to shatter. It was quite a feat, I can tell you. I have not dropped it since. What can I say? If I'm walking on concrete, I hold onto it for dear life. If I'm on a rug, I hold off a bit. It's an expensive device and should be treated like one.
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He doesn't own an iPhone 4 and knows little ahoy them. His complaints are those made up by people when the 4 was announced but were not actually problems. Apparently he has been in a block of ice for 18 months and just thawed out.
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He doesn't own an iPhone 4 and knows little ahoy them. His complaints are those made up by people when the 4 was announced but were not actually problems. Apparently he has been in a block of ice for 18 months and just thawed out.
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I wouldn't go as far as dropping it on purpose but I can testify that I dropped my iPhone 3GS not long back from the fourth floor in the stair well. It took a couple of knocks from stairs on the way down based on the noise. I fumbled it when I got it out of my pocket. I was devastated. But when I seen it I couldn't believe it! Not a scratch!!!
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I wouldn't go as far as dropping it on purpose but I can testify that I dropped my iPhone 3GS not long back from the fourth floor in the stair well. It took a couple of knocks from stairs on the way down based on the noise. I fumbled it when I got it out of my pocket. I was devastated. But when I seen it I couldn't believe it! Not a scratch!!!
i don't get people that's not happy with the iPhone 4S and will switch to android.
you really need to throw away of all your iOS apps that you bought since couple of years ago just for an android specs?
my galaxy S2 doesn't feel any faster than my iPhone 4 and the reality i feel my iPhone 4 is much more fluid, smoother experience than my non natural browser scrolling on the SGS2, never mind the jumping scrolling when i decided to tap to stop the scrolling in android browser.
you really need to throw away of all your iOS apps that you bought since couple of years ago just for an android specs?
my galaxy S2 doesn't feel any faster than my iPhone 4 and the reality i feel my iPhone 4 is much more fluid, smoother experience than my non natural browser scrolling on the SGS2, never mind the jumping scrolling when i decided to tap to stop the scrolling in android browser.
I hope it's a touch homebutton, it's nearly always the first thing to break, I've had 3 iPhones replaced from it, and now my 2nd iPhone 4 has homebutton problems, multi-tasking is a nightmare when the button only picks up 50% of presses.
The 4S is targeted at 3GS owners. iphone 4 owners looking for a new phone should buy an S2 or the up coming nexus. Hit apple were it hurts.
i'm actually quite angry at apple for taking so long to update the iphone this cycle. and now when they're finally close to doing so, all indications seem to point at a very tepid refresh.
i'm still going to buy an iphone 4s but out of spite for apple, i wont use it.
take that, apple