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Analyst Believes iPhone 12 Pricing Will Start $50 Higher Even Without EarPods or Charger in Box
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Interesting -- I always like getting more headphones but never need another charger. I wonder what the breakdown is on this issue.
This makes sense.
If Apple are trying to save the environment by not including charger bricks and headsets, they can save the environment even more by not needing to produce as many iPhones due to less demand caused by higher cost.
Save the environment by not upgrading, especially for unimaginative, incremental upgrades. Force the manufacturers to innovate, or don't give them your business.
We should have week-long battery life in all phones, but instead this is limited only to niche phones.
If Apple are trying to save the environment by not including charger bricks and headsets, they can save the environment even more by not needing to produce as many iPhones due to less demand caused by higher cost.
Save the environment by not upgrading, especially for unimaginative, incremental upgrades. Force the manufacturers to innovate, or don't give them your business.
We should have week-long battery life in all phones, but instead this is limited only to niche phones.
Don’t upgrade then. Cars come out every year but do you buy a new car every year? Come on people just because they make it doesn’t mean you have to buy it
Why is it a big deal? I bought a first ten Motorola Moto G back in 2014, it had only usb cable in box. No YouTube reviewer ever complained about it, I then bought the headphones I wanted (not the ones manufacturer decides for you) and charger I needed (two ports, four ports, eight ports, red, green, yellow, you name it).
In the end everyone still complains how slow stock iPhone Charger is, now you don’t have to deal with it, just get any PD charger you like.
In the end everyone still complains how slow stock iPhone Charger is, now you don’t have to deal with it, just get any PD charger you like.
If they raise prices they'll sell less phones, at least here in the EU.
In many countries, including mine, they don't even have the iPhone upgrade program. If they need to increase prices, it would be a good time to start the IUP. They could easily rise the price by 1 o 2 EUR per month and people will barely notice, while another price increase on a model that is already very expensive will likely decrease sales.
In many countries, including mine, they don't even have the iPhone upgrade program. If they need to increase prices, it would be a good time to start the IUP. They could easily rise the price by 1 o 2 EUR per month and people will barely notice, while another price increase on a model that is already very expensive will likely decrease sales.
Why does anyone care about 5G, I don't get it. What advantage does it bring to a mobile device that I can't get with 300mbps 4G?
Doesn't it have worse signal attenuation, to the point where walls cripple it? I don't understand what the use cases are for such speed, either.
I am willing to be educated here.
Doesn't it have worse signal attenuation, to the point where walls cripple it? I don't understand what the use cases are for such speed, either.
I am willing to be educated here.
Jony Ive will be pleased to see that the boxes and packaging will now be thinner, like how he was obsessed with shaving every possible millimeter off every Apple product. He must be over the moon with joy. I'm sure this decision was made by Jony Ive
It has an enormous advantage of being able to dry your whole data plan in mere seconds
Jokes aside: unless we have affordable plans with 50Gb and more per month 5G is pretty useless
Did you think the 4th camera would be free?
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5G will be faster than broadband internet and allow you to stream 8K on phones. Sounds like a good deal to me as long as they get huge data plans.
Yeah I will buy it but that doesn't mean I can't complain about it. A total dick move by Apple to do this if they do in fact charge more.
IMHO, considering the current extraordinary economic circumstances and the rumour that Apple will no longer be including the charger and EarPods with their iPhones, it would be a good gesture on Apple’s part to keep the prices the same, as their minimal contribution to the common load.
Sure, they may be gaining less by doing so, but so will their competitors, as the economic downturn due to the pandemic is affecting the whole world.
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Because of Apple’s supposedly better business ethos and caring about their customers kind of thing?
Job’s vision was also to get Apple’s products in the hands of as many people as possible worldwide. Remember him saying, while introducing Apple Maps, something like “the more people use it, the better it will get”. Ok, they might lose some money now, but will gain it again in the future by improving their services (Maps, Music, Apple TV, iCloud storage plans, etc.)
Sure, they may be gaining less by doing so, but so will their competitors, as the economic downturn due to the pandemic is affecting the whole world.
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Because of Apple’s supposedly better business ethos and caring about their customers kind of thing?
Job’s vision was also to get Apple’s products in the hands of as many people as possible worldwide. Remember him saying, while introducing Apple Maps, something like “the more people use it, the better it will get”. Ok, they might lose some money now, but will gain it again in the future by improving their services (Maps, Music, Apple TV, iCloud storage plans, etc.)
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Economic downturn is coming, high end phones will get the bypass if perceived value is going down. Now is the time to include more in the box not less and also to lower the price.
Some of the responses here have me scratching my head.
Could one not argue that not including the accessories would result in Apple increasing the price of the iPhone less than they otherwise would have?
We have seen how much Samsung increased the prices of their phones when they introduced their 5g models.
In Apple’s case, offering 5G, moving to a whole new phone design, testing it, paying for the new manufacturing tools are all things that eat up their profit margins. Maybe, by removing the charger and the headphones, they will be able to raise the price by $50 instead of $100.
Yes, I know that the cost of a charger is less than $50, but I put that number assuming that they wouldn’t ask a price like $1072. Instead, they will likely save some cost by removing the charger, some by removing the headphones, and some by lowering the shipping costs, and the rest would eat up some of their profits.
The net result is that even after raising the price and removing the accessories, Apple's margins still fall, and it will have to be something they have to eat up, and it actually comes across and being pretty reasonable.
Could one not argue that not including the accessories would result in Apple increasing the price of the iPhone less than they otherwise would have?
We have seen how much Samsung increased the prices of their phones when they introduced their 5g models.
In Apple’s case, offering 5G, moving to a whole new phone design, testing it, paying for the new manufacturing tools are all things that eat up their profit margins. Maybe, by removing the charger and the headphones, they will be able to raise the price by $50 instead of $100.
Yes, I know that the cost of a charger is less than $50, but I put that number assuming that they wouldn’t ask a price like $1072. Instead, they will likely save some cost by removing the charger, some by removing the headphones, and some by lowering the shipping costs, and the rest would eat up some of their profits.
The net result is that even after raising the price and removing the accessories, Apple's margins still fall, and it will have to be something they have to eat up, and it actually comes across and being pretty reasonable.
I actually don't see Apple doing that. Apple is putting more tech in the phones. Those who want the iphone 12 pro max (or whatever) are going to pay the going rate.
There may be sales, but I can't see Apple not charging what they believe the phones are worth. Actually the same with other consumer electronics, cars as well. So there is plenty of precedent to charge what they believe the market research shows them. (If Apple lowers prices, they won't be able to recover them that easily, so imo, it's better for them to charge what they believe they should be charging)
Care about the customer as in "love" or understand the requirements of the customer base?
Is that why the first iphone was release at a $799 price point? Because he wanted to get the iphone 1 into as many hands as possible?
Each individual has a different definition of perceived value. IMO, Apple, probably, did the math and figured out there is a net gain between customers lost due to perceived value and savings across hundreds of millions of iphone by not including a charger or earpods.
I’m not upgrading this time and will wait until next generation iPhones with a different design.
Well, if you were wondering how companies are going to recoup loses due to COVID-19, here's their template.
They should at least give $50 off for the ear pods if u buy em with a new phone.
Must say though I didn’t use the headphones much, my kids always did though.
The charger, i figured they’d make a bigger charger like the iPad pros and would need a bigger box. So I get it, they can be had from anywhere or use your computer.
Better have a USB-c cable damnit
Must say though I didn’t use the headphones much, my kids always did though.
The charger, i figured they’d make a bigger charger like the iPad pros and would need a bigger box. So I get it, they can be had from anywhere or use your computer.
Better have a USB-c cable damnit
I think that is a small minority of those looking in the $500 price range. Most of them are looking for a budget phone and bang/buck.
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serious question, what redesign are you looking for? This is about as "radical" as you can get without the phone being folding. They are rectangle shells.
Know body knows the final price till it’s unveiled but removing something essential out the box is a no from me for the Reasons above.