That's scary when you read this quote from ATT:
AT&Ts pricing has taken current usage into consideration, with the carrier claiming that 98 percent of its users consume less than 2 GB per month, while 65 percent consume less than 200 MB.
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That's scary when you read this quote from ATT:
AT&Ts pricing has taken current usage into consideration, with the carrier claiming that 98 percent of its users consume less than 2 GB per month, while 65 percent consume less than 200 MB.
your smartphone market share reasoning is flawed
I think you completely forgot about the iPod Touch, the iPad and the fact that the average iPhone user downloads/buys way more music and Apps then the average Android user
in other words market share doesn't matter as much when iPhone users are more valuable than Android users
iPhone users browse the web more than any other smartphone user on average as well making them more significant in reguards to web development as well
Android might gain more than a few new developers but iOS wont lose many I can assure you
Totally Agree with that part
WOW ... and I'm guessing all of them (carriers) are the same. My neighbor is in the UK and said a relative got a throw away for them while they are there. That sounds like the better route to go.
So much misinformation in this thread.
-Verizon already handles more data on its network than AT&T does. Verizon sells lots of aircards and mifi type devices which just eats up data like a redneck at a buffet.
-CDMA is "old" like GSM is "old". LTE is not compatible with either GSM or CDMA, so all carriers will have to have some sort of backwards compatibility by running two networks. When AT&T decides to turn off their GSM network your current iPhones will be useless paperweights. Ditto when Verizon turns off their CDMA network. It will not happen soon, but it will happen.
-GSM is more popular across the world so if you do a lot of international traveling get a GSM phone. Many people don't travel much overseas so big who cares on what Europe is using.
-If you are using data on CDMA your call will NOT go to voicemail like you are on dialup in the 1990s. Your data will be paused, and the call will go through normally. You can not use data and voice at the same time using current technologies. CDMA offers the feature but Verizon or Sprint has chosen not to implement it. Funny enough if you are on AT&T's EDGE network and you are using data your calls will be routed to voicemail. You'll have no idea that hot chick called you while your phone was downloading that email message unless she left you a voicemail.
-Verizon does not force their market place on their smartphones. I use Android's market all I want and I'm billed through Google and not Verizon.
-Judging by Verizons low church, high amounts of growth, and record profits I doubt they're begging Apple for anything. Apple has a lot more to gain (tapping into an additional market of over 70 million customers) than Verizon does. Most Verizon subscribers are stubborn. They won't leave Verizon, but they'd get an iPhone if it was offered on their network.
-Verizon already handles more data on its network than AT&T does. Verizon sells lots of aircards and mifi type devices which just eats up data like a redneck at a buffet.
-CDMA is "old" like GSM is "old". LTE is not compatible with either GSM or CDMA, so all carriers will have to have some sort of backwards compatibility by running two networks. When AT&T decides to turn off their GSM network your current iPhones will be useless paperweights. Ditto when Verizon turns off their CDMA network. It will not happen soon, but it will happen.
-GSM is more popular across the world so if you do a lot of international traveling get a GSM phone. Many people don't travel much overseas so big who cares on what Europe is using.
-If you are using data on CDMA your call will NOT go to voicemail like you are on dialup in the 1990s. Your data will be paused, and the call will go through normally. You can not use data and voice at the same time using current technologies. CDMA offers the feature but Verizon or Sprint has chosen not to implement it. Funny enough if you are on AT&T's EDGE network and you are using data your calls will be routed to voicemail. You'll have no idea that hot chick called you while your phone was downloading that email message unless she left you a voicemail.
-Verizon does not force their market place on their smartphones. I use Android's market all I want and I'm billed through Google and not Verizon.
-Judging by Verizons low church, high amounts of growth, and record profits I doubt they're begging Apple for anything. Apple has a lot more to gain (tapping into an additional market of over 70 million customers) than Verizon does. Most Verizon subscribers are stubborn. They won't leave Verizon, but they'd get an iPhone if it was offered on their network.
NOT TRUE BECAUSE: Apple wouldn't launch the phone AFTER the holiday season. That single point is a HUGE downside to all of these "verizon iphone" rumors.
Anyone think that maybe its a verizon iPad? Not sure why this hasn;t come up more often.
Agreed - but apple could still make the cdma phone, and keep its release offset from the gsm iphone
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woops - missed the post just above me:
Anyone think that maybe its a verizon iPad? Not sure why this hasn;t come up more often.
Agreed - but apple could still make the cdma phone, and keep its release offset from the gsm iphone
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woops - missed the post just above me:
I can't WAIT to dump my Droid phone!
After owning 2 generations of iPhones with AT&T, I gave up on them. I LOVED the iPhone but HATED AT&T's excuse for service in my area. Plus, their pricing is just too high.... After paying out the monthly fee they want to keep an iPhone active on their network, they're really going to charge me separately for a text messaging package?! That's just insulting.
So I went with Cricket and saved a bunch of money, but this Sanyo "Zio" Android phone I bought to use with their service? Pathetic... Not only is the touch-screen so bad, it's nearly unusable -- but Android OS itself is pathetic too. I don't know who all the Droid fanboys were, but they apparently didn't value many of the same things I did in a smartphone!
EG. You can't set up a proxy server to use over a wi-fi connection in Android OS?! Really?! That means I can't use the wi-fi at my work with it at all! Lame!
After owning 2 generations of iPhones with AT&T, I gave up on them. I LOVED the iPhone but HATED AT&T's excuse for service in my area. Plus, their pricing is just too high.... After paying out the monthly fee they want to keep an iPhone active on their network, they're really going to charge me separately for a text messaging package?! That's just insulting.
So I went with Cricket and saved a bunch of money, but this Sanyo "Zio" Android phone I bought to use with their service? Pathetic... Not only is the touch-screen so bad, it's nearly unusable -- but Android OS itself is pathetic too. I don't know who all the Droid fanboys were, but they apparently didn't value many of the same things I did in a smartphone!
EG. You can't set up a proxy server to use over a wi-fi connection in Android OS?! Really?! That means I can't use the wi-fi at my work with it at all! Lame!
Wish they would fix my part of the Balto area. Then I could stop carrying my phone and ipod everywhere.
Exactly what I thought when I read that !!!
Ah, I'm so happy someone else got that Abbott and Costello reference.
Qualcomm also makes GSM chipsets, so it seems foolish to say "oh, look at that big qualcomm order, must be CDMA!!".
If this rumor ever comes to fruition (and it hasn't over the past several years) I would expect this to be an LTE/CDMA hybrid phone. Especially since not only are LTE smart phones already exist, but Android will be running on at least one LTE/CDMA phone Q1 2011.
Or better yet, how about Gobi? Software configurable for GSM/CDMA/LTE. Might as well. It would make even more sense.
If this rumor ever comes to fruition (and it hasn't over the past several years) I would expect this to be an LTE/CDMA hybrid phone. Especially since not only are LTE smart phones already exist, but Android will be running on at least one LTE/CDMA phone Q1 2011.
Or better yet, how about Gobi? Software configurable for GSM/CDMA/LTE. Might as well. It would make even more sense.
Lol what? At&t will continue to have problems. With the iPhone, Att still has less customers than Verizon. Verizon doesn't have THE problems like ATT does. Also, it all depends on the area. SO...your post is irrelevant. GG
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3GPP_Long_Term_Evolution
I guess that you not only don't give a damn about the rest of the world but you don't care about facts either. LTE is related to HSPA (3G) used by the GSM networks. It is "NOT" related to CDMA2000 EVDO.
I am sick and tired of people on here confusing CDMA with WCDMA (HSPA/UMTS) used by GSM network for their 3G networks. The air interface shares some features from the air interface from CDMA but the network stack is based on GSM, not EVDO.
Given that LTE is an evolution of HSPA/UMTS, it makes more sense to have HSPA+ as a fallback rather than CDMA which is why every other carrier outside of the US is going HSPA+ (including CDMA ones) before going LTE. Canada's CDMA carriers are all now on HSPA+ with the plan to move to LTE once the voice standard is complete. Don't go crying to us because Verizon and Sprint are run by a bunch of clueless hicks.
You know what I really could care less about what all of you that are defending AT&T are saying. I know for a fact that in my area if you put a Verizon phone on the table and an AT&T phone down on the table the Verizon one will ALWAYS have 3 bars more of signal than the AT&T phone. Second I have put my Droid X and my friends iPhone 4 to the speed test and again the Droid X ALWAYS wins. (Most of the time by a mile) So what am I getting at here? Well it's really quite simple. Apple is a smart company and they know that Verizon is a HUGE carrier here in the U.S. And as any company would with half a brain they are out to make money so why would they turn down the 83 million subscribers that Verizon has ready to go. The iPhone on Verizon is going to happen next January weather you like it or not. Get used to it.
I have the WORST memory. I forgot about that with GSM phones, and was baffled by an annoying interference on some speaker systems, then I remembered my old AT&T days.
That interference was my biggest pet-peave back when I had AT&T and my old GPRS enabled Siemens S46 phone. Now almost a decade later, and back on AT&T, I hear that annoying digital equivalent of morris code on amplified devices sitting near my phone all too often.
It is the one regret I have switching back to GSM.
I hope it comes true soon. I am a Verizon user, I want move up to a smartphone, and I want it to be an IPhone.
Abbott and Costello Reference
Wow, digging up an Abbott and Costello reference. Very nice. Who's on first...?
Wow, digging up an Abbott and Costello reference. Very nice. Who's on first...?
I really hope Verizon comes into the iPhone.
That will be great. AT&T needs some competition. I hope this will help drives the plan prices down a bit.
That will be great. AT&T needs some competition. I hope this will help drives the plan prices down a bit.
Phones don't necessarily make good Christmas presents, as most people that buy them are getting them for themselves. iPods and iPads make much better presents (no 2 year contract).
Considering that Apple announced the iPad in January of last year, I don't think you can really argue that Apple wouldn't launch the iPhone after the holiday season. Not that I believe any Verizon iPhone rumors.
This has been done like this for years. The reason people have forgotten this fact is because Apple was exclusive to AT&T. Blackberry releases a Bold on AT&T and then 6 months later releases it on Verizon. Palm used to do the same thing. No one on VZ seems to mind. So what will happen, and to appease AT&T, they will release a IP4 CDMA version in Jan, and then you will see the IP5 on ATT in June. So you will have a 6 month lag. It's not a killer, plus it gives Apple a chance to beta test on ATT
I won't be "jumping ship to Verizon". I'm already there because AT&T doesn't have decent coverage in my area regardless of the phone being used. I will jump ship to iPhone from my 'Driod Incredible. Who knew that "Incredible" could also mean "really bad."
I've asked this once and didn't get an answer, so I'll try again.
With the Droid X, Droid Incredible, Droid, Droid 2, Samung Fascinate--why do people seem so content in thinking that an iPhone will clog up the network?
How can the network survive 5 (if not more) very heavy data-using phones, yet people claim that the introduction of one phone is going to slow the network down beyond belief?
I just don't get it.
Do you have some numbers to show that each carrier is seeing the same kind of traffic that AT&T is with the iPhone? I have an iPhone and my wife has an Android-based phone and I find that she's more likely to pick up my iPhone to use it for some given function--especially web surfing--than to use her own phone. The reason is that the web experience on the iPhone is lot more user-friendly and for a non-techie like her, it's a little less frustration just to grab my iPhone and do what she needs to do.
I realize that's anecdotal, but even I hate using her phone and can easily see why lots of casual users would avoid it. The UI is very clunky by comparison and things are generally not very intuitive.