Analyst Predicts 2017 iPhone 8 'Mega Cycle' With OLED, Wireless Charging, and No Home Button

[I7guy]

The whole point is avoiding that. Again, until you have experienced the benefit of wireless charging on today's phones you'll never understand the convenience it offers. I used to think like you until I was able to take advantage of wireless charging, now it's hard to imagine going without it.

My business associate has a phone with wireless charging. When we are in the conference room mine is plugged in, because all conference rooms are equipped with iphone/ipad charging stations. Is my business associates android phone charging on the pad?

 

[geoff5093]

My business associate has a phone with wireless charging. When we are in the conference room mine is plugged in, because all conference rooms are equipped with iphone/ipad charging stations. Is my business associates android phone charging on the pad?

I'm not part of your business meetings so I have no idea what your associate does.

 

[Howyalikdemapls]

Whose making decisions based in rumors? I'm not, why would I decide to spend my money now until I see exactly what I'm getting.

Here's a few examples from this thread:

For the past 6 months I've already decided that I'd be skipping the iPhone 7 (been on the every other year cycle since the 3G), this only reinforces that decision

Well then no new iPhone this year for me. My 6S Plus will do it.

Ugh, I only wish all of this stuff was happening this year. It's going to be tough to pull the trigger on the iPhone 7 when I know the 8 is coming with awesome features.

I'm supposed to upgrade my iPhone 6 in February 2017. On the one hand, I don't really want to wait until September 2017, as my current phone is quite slow and I'd really appreciate faster touch ID and 3D Touch.


But it looks like the iPhone 7 will be really, really boring, and hardly an upgrade, while waiting 7 months would lead to a massive upgrade... but that's an extra 7 months after already having the 6 for two years.


I really wish Apple would keep its tick-tock cycle. I like being on the non-S cycle, while skipping to the iPhone 8 will presumably place S-upgraders on the non-S path, and vice versa.

Pretty clear I will not replace my iPhone 4 with iPhone 7 but with the iPhone 8

iPhone 8 Plus for me, please.

It sounds like the iPhone 7 will be the one to skip.

Is time to skip the iPhone 7

It looks like I'll be skipping the 7. I've upgraded every year since the 4s came out, but this phone just isn't enticing me with current rumors. Of course I'll have to wait till we see the official announcement from Apple in September, but I'll likely wait for the 2017 phone

If these rumours persist I'm not gonna get rid of my 6 Plus in September. I'll hold off.

I am eligible to upgrade mine with VZ in September. I am likely to get an iPhone SE then, and give this 6 Plus to my mom and wait for the iPhone 8 instead. Easier decision for me since it will be cheaper to get a powerful SE for nothing since now I am using my iPad Pro 9.7 instead of the phone.

Usually I buy a new iphone every two years (always on the "mega cycle"). But I think I will skip this year for the first time - only based on all these rumours

I'll definitely skip iPhone 7

looks like i am gonna keep my iPhone 6 another year. it runs perfect and just like an iPad theres no need to update every 2 years anymore

 

[I7guy]

Here's a few examples from this thread:

First- this is an enthusiast site and doesn't speak for the 50 million that already have an 6s, to use the 6s as an example.

Second- most people are going to be rational in spite of what is posted and make a decision at the appropriate time. I cannot imagine being more short sided than thinking you know exactly what the next iPhone is and making that buy or not buy decision today.
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I'm not part of your business meetings so I have no idea what your associate does.

You get the point, those pads don't move from room to room.

 

[TurboPGT!]

Tired of repeating this, but google WiTricity. I'm not linking it again. THAT is true wireless charging, not the physical contact with a charging mat-based junk. It seems to be on the verge of entering the consumer space too.

Apple has patents from years ago that put dozens of tiny solar receptors under the glass of iOS devices. THAT will be the future of wireless charging. Its not wireless "charging" at all. It is solar supplementation that could conceivably extend the life of a normal charge by hours, even days, maybe longer.

 

[576316]

Whose making decisions based in rumors?

*Guilty* If more rumours like this persist, I won't be getting an iPhone 7. I'm about to become a student so I have to be pretty selective about which iPhone I buy, seeing as I always buy my iPhone outright. I won't have that sort of money lying around again for a while.

 

[I7guy]

*Guilty* If more rumours like this persist, I won't be getting an iPhone 7. I'm about to become a student so I have to be pretty selective about which iPhone I buy, seeing as I always buy my iPhone outright. I won't have that sort of money lying around again for a while.

But you are making the decision when you get the final specs on September. You are not making the decision now you are merely projecting your potential future opinion based on rumors. So relax, you are only guilty of stating an opinion.

 

[AdonisSMU]

It charges without having to plug a wire into your phone. Wireless = you don't need a wire.

Moving the wire somewhere else isn't the same as wireless.... the only time I see wireless on Android used is to show people that it can be done. Picking up my phone and using it while its charging without being strapped to a matt is feature not a bug.

 

[geoff5093]

Moving the wire somewhere else isn't the same as wireless....

Every wireless device has a wire on both the transmitting and receiving end, if you think otherwise you truly are clueless in this matter.

 

[AdonisSMU]

Every wireless device has a wire on both the transmitting and receiving end, if you think otherwise you truly are clueless in this matter.

read it again come back. Your clueless if you think going from a wire-to-device ---> wire-to-matt-to-device is somehow wireless is better....or that its even more usable from a usability perspective.

If you want to make the argument that you can charge more than one device at a time with a larger matt then fine that is the only use case for wired matt charging....and even then its very very niche... It doesnt have the same obvious benefits as a larger display.

 

[geoff5093]

read it again come back. Your clueless if you think going from a wire-to-device ---> wire-to-matt-to-device is somehow wireless...

If you want to make the argument that you can charge more than one device at a time with a larger matt then fine that is the only use case for wired matt charging....and even then its ver very niche... It doesnt have the same obvious benefits as a larger display.

sounds like you have no idea how wireless charging works. You have a wireless transmitter thst plugs into a power source, and that wirelessly shares your phone. There into some no connection between your phone and the charging pad. How is that not wireless??

 

[AdonisSMU]

sounds like you have no idea how wireless charging works. You have a wireless transmitter thst plugs into a power source, and that wirelessly shares your phone. There into some no connection between your phone and the charging pad. How is that not wireless??

You moved the wire to the matt and now the phone is reliant on the matt that is reliant on the wire.... so that means the phone is reliant on both the matt and the wire.

 

[geoff5093]

You moved the wire to the matt and now the phone is reliant on the matt that is reliant on the wire.... so that means the phone is reliant on both the matt and the wire.

And what about anything else wireless? Wifi is reliant on a wired ethernet connection and power, so is that not wireless? There is no wire between the phone and it's power source, hence it's wireless.

 

[AdonisSMU]

And what about anything else wireless? Wifi is reliant on a wired ethernet connection and power, so is that not wireless? There is no wire between the phone and it's power source, hence it's wireless.

Ummm.... You are forgetting about one thing...the matt. My computer doesn't need to be laid on top of a matt to get wifi. It just needs to be in a wifi area.

 

[geoff5093]

Ummm.... You are forgetting about one thing...the matt. My computer doesn't need to be laid on top of a matt to get wifi. It just needs to be in a wifi area.

The mat is the antenna, it transmits to the magnetic coil inside the phone. There is no wire between the two and there does not need to be physical contact between the two.

 

[Howyalikdemapls]

Ummm.... You are forgetting about one thing...the matt. My computer doesn't need to be laid on top of a matt to get wifi. It just needs to be in a wifi area.

The mat is the antenna, it transmits to the magnetic coil inside the phone. There is no wire between the two and there does not need to be physical contact between the two.

The mat technology (inductive charging) is considered wireless. It's not the great breakthrough that we've all been dreaming of (like WattUp), but it is considered wireless. There will be huge leaps forward in upcoming wireless charging technology but that doesn't mean that inductive charging isn't considered wireless charging. Many people (myself included) don't care about inductive charging, but are pretty excited about the future of wireless charging.

Just because new wireless charging technology is going to blow inductive charging out of the water doesn't change the fact that inductive charging is considered wireless charging.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductive_charging

 

[I7guy]

The mat technology (inductive charging) is considered wireless. It's not the great breakthrough that we've all been dreaming of (like WattUp), but it is considered wireless. There will be huge leaps forward in upcoming wireless charging technology but that doesn't mean that inductive charging isn't considered wireless charging. Many people (myself included) don't care about inductive charging, but are pretty excited about the future of wireless charging.

Just because new wireless charging technology is going to blow inductive charging out of the water doesn't change the fact that inductive charging is considered wireless charging.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductive_charging

Arguing semantics , the phone needs to be on top of the Matt.

 

[Jax44]

This is true, I didn't think about waterproofing as the reason for wireless charging in the place on the mat sense. That would at least justify the switch. Don't most of these phones with wireless charging still have the ports though? In which case I feel like I would still opt for a dock. I'm just not too sold on it unless it's truly wireless. If I could step into a general area and my phone automatically starts charging in my pocket, that's what I would consider wireless charging and that's what I would want from it.

Also, I'd be willing to bet next years iPhone will be named something other than iPhone 7 or 8. Maybe iPhone X or just iPhone with us using the year to identify or something. It would seem a bit odd to me to name it the 7 or 8 if it's truly as big of a redesign and they give us more or less the 6SS this year. Then again, I've never really been able to understand why Apple names their products the way they do, they're extremely messy with it.

Wireless charging won't eliminate the port. The mat charging makes more sense in a car then at home, if the vehicle has a built in area.

My son just got a new Toyota Tacoma TRD Sport and it has a shelf just forward of the shift with a built in Qi pad. He bought a 20.00 thin case for his iPhone and just tosses it on the shelf when he gets in.
Bluetooth, music and charging all with no wires.

 

[I7guy]

Wireless charging won't eliminate the port. The mat charging makes more sense in a car then at home, if the vehicle has a built in area.

My son just got a new Toyota Tacoma TRD Sport and it has a shelf just forward of the shift with a built in Qi pad. He bought a 20.00 thin case for his iPhone and just tosses it on the shelf when he gets in.
Bluetooth, music and charging all with no wires.

On long trips I sometimes use my iphone, plugged in as my gps for hours. Contactless wireless charging would be great in this situation, to me another reason why the charging pad is not as convenient as all that.

 

[CaliKev]

I have a strong feeling that the next iPhone is going to be the 6SE and 6+SE. That way 2017 can be the iPhone 7 with all the revamped changes.

 

[Jax44]

On long trips I sometimes use my iphone, plugged in as my gps for hours. Contactless wireless charging would be great in this situation, to me another reason why the charging pad is not as convenient as all that.

I plug mine in as well, quick and easy. The mat thing at home is not my thing, I use mine all the time plugged in on the couch with a 6 foot cord.

I just thought the built in shelf was pretty cool in the truck.

 

[I7guy]

I plug mine in as well, quick and easy. The mat thing at home is not my thing, I use mine all the time plugged in on the couch with a 6 foot cord.

I just thought the built in shelf was pretty cool in the truck.

I hadn't heard of that before, and I hand it to Toyota for moving forward with the times. Give them a thumbs up.

 

[AdonisSMU]

The mat technology (inductive charging) is considered wireless. It's not the great breakthrough that we've all been dreaming of (like WattUp), but it is considered wireless. There will be huge leaps forward in upcoming wireless charging technology but that doesn't mean that inductive charging isn't considered wireless charging. Many people (myself included) don't care about inductive charging, but are pretty excited about the future of wireless charging.

Just because new wireless charging technology is going to blow inductive charging out of the water doesn't change the fact that inductive charging is considered wireless charging.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductive_charging

Tomato tomahto it's still got a matt strapped to its back with a wire. It's actually a step backwards. Don't get mad at me for seeing through a marketing gimmick and calling a spade a spade.

 

[abercrombie]

Since when is wireless charging "next generation"? Android phones have had it for half a decade.

And the HP Touchpad on WebOS had wireless charging in 2011, prior to Android.

 

[trifid]

But I can use it plugged is the point and I can go to the conference room and plug in the phone and I can go over to another location and plug in the phone etc...

I think you are missing the point and not thinking this through well. First of all, today's inductive charging does not mean you give up a port and charging with a cable. You can choose either inductive or charging via cable depending on the situation.

So if you are in a conference room and has cables etc, use cable. Actually, a 2016 smartphone should last all day, there shouldn't be battery issues, but I guess that's an argument for another day.

But what you aren't thinking through is this: a pad is intended to be stationary. It's like the Apple watch pad/mat, put it at your bedside table, drop your watch onto it when you go to sleep. Dropping phone beside it would be convenient too. No meddling and hunting around cables in the dark, or whatever.

I use inductive in the car, it's beautiful. Put drop the phone in the iOttie stand, and it charges.

There are even Dell monitors with inductive stands, you get to your home/office drop the phone on it. No messy cables.

Point is, use inductive on stationary places where you have pads/mats setup, and use cable if/where you need it. You choose.